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Skirlaugh v Leigh East

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Sorry Keith i think you are wrong ,East should send the strongest Team possible and play the game in the true spirit of the sport.

Anything less devalues the competition and would further damage Leigh East reputation.

The fact is East failed to travel pure and simple ,had the boot been on the other foot Keith i,m sure your club would expect the NCL to administer the rules accordingly.

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Peter Moran and his committee have all the facts I'm told and are holding them back just to get this game played as per rules as you say but for gods sake tell the club what's going to happen to them then maybe a lot of kids don't need to play in a meaningless game . East could then send the second team . The result does not effect any other club so your phrase regarding oulton is hyperthetiical

So what you're saying is that you want the NCL to rush a judgement through. This will obviously have to be dealt with at a disciplinary hearing, i'm sure it will be on the agenda the next time there is one. This gives all parties the time to present all of the facts, either in writing or in person.

You say it doesn't affect any other club but it does affect Skirlaugh massively, if they rule that East weren't at fault then Skirlaugh are going to feel massively aggreived as they are completely innocent in the whole thing, this would be a distraction to their preparations for what at this stage is still a huge game.

If a judgement had been rushed through one way or another there would be an outcry from either Skirlaugh or East. This way the game will be played as it should have been last weekend with both sides in the mindset that it is (or now could potentially be) a relegation decider. This is the best way to protect Skirlaugh's interests and the integrity of the competition in my opinion.

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Keith are you saying that its ok for your 2nd team to travel for this "meaningless" game but pointless for the 1st team?

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Keith are you saying that its ok for your 2nd team to travel for this "meaningless" game but pointless for the 1st team?

Perhaps the first team will be at a wedding which follows on from the stag-do last weekend? :rolleyes:

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From what I'm told the Ncl will relegate or throw east out of the league win or lose on Saturday . If that's right then shame on the Ncl for letting the players travel on Saturday . Not the players fault and poor decision making from the Ncl if true. These lads have families and work commitments so why not just make the decision now

I'm surprised at the madness of this statement!

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From what I'm told the Ncl will relegate or throw east out of the league win or lose on Saturday . If that's right then shame on the Ncl for letting the players travel on Saturday . Not the players fault and poor decision making from the Ncl if true. These lads have families and work commitments so why not just make the decision now

When Hunslet Warriors were thrown out of the NCL they had to play thier final eleven games to complete the season after been told thier fate.

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When Hunslet Warriors were thrown out of the NCL they had to play thier final eleven games to complete the season after been told thier fate.

Can you imagine what THAT took, and how easy it would have been to not have bothered! Hats off to the Warriors though - they paid the price and then came back even stronger.

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Mr Chairman over the years you have contributed to this forum with very sensible views which I have always enjoyed, but please don't start blaming anyone else for your troubles,

just take what's coming and accept it, You more than most know that all fixtures have to be played, and any decent club would always send their strongest team available. Like Samsung said

that statement was crazy coming from you.

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Just saying that the Ncl know all the facts and win or lose east will be relegated . I'm not hiding anything east should pay a heavy penalty for not travelling to skirlaugh after what i have heard ,all I was trying to say was that east will be playing a lot of kids some 17 yrs of age just. If I was still chairman I would not want our talented kids playing in that game it's a pepper pot of a game and I would send our very good and experienced second team. But I ain't the chairman and will not defend who is at fault at Leigh east . But I do have an opinion and the players at east are not at fault for this very embarrassing situation . Skirlaugh deserve to stay up no problem .

Taxi egg or mick , my reply to you is yes I would be disappointed at the present situation but at the moment east have a heavy injury list and the talented u/18s are having to double up to help, this is not a game for them to play in because its a meaningless game that must be played . You are always banging on about protecting the kids well this is my way of doing that

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From what I'm told the Ncl will relegate or throw east out of the league win or lose on Saturday . If that's right then shame on the Ncl for letting the players travel on Saturday . Not the players fault and poor decision making from the Ncl if true. These lads have families and work commitments so why not just make the decision now

Do you really think the NCL Committee will throw Easts out of the NCL? IMO there is no chance at all because the plan is to expand the competition and not send one of the best amateur clubs running back to BARLA.

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Definitely will be relegated and rightly so . Thrown out is a possibility as east committee is Barla orientated so it wouldn't bother them if they were , in my opinion that is

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it will be good to get this weekend out of the way, hopefully it will be settled on the field.

Shame if thats the way Leigh East are looking to go, i thought they and Thatto Heath were the model amateur RL clubs,

think people appreciate Keith's honesty in this thread, its a shame after he spent more than 30 years at the helm that in less than a year the club has done this,

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Definitely will be relegated and rightly so . Thrown out is a possibility as east committee is Barla orientated so it wouldn't bother them if they were , in my opinion that is

Being BARLA orientated should not be a reason to be kicked out of the NCL, If it is then I'm sure a lot more clubs will be following, one of the reasons many clubs have gone along with the NCL to the dark side is simply because of the standard of the competition and how it was run.

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it will be good to get this weekend out of the way, hopefully it will be settled on the field.

Shame if thats the way Leigh East are looking to go, i thought they and Thatto Heath were the model amateur RL clubs,

think people appreciate Keith's honesty in this thread, its a shame after he spent more than 30 years at the helm that in less than a year the club has done this,

How can you blame the clubs committee if they are having problems tearing players away from their families, what we have to realise is families come first, work second and then your hobby.

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Being BARLA orientated should not be a reason to be kicked out of the NCL, If it is then I'm sure a lot more clubs will be following, one of the reasons many clubs have gone along with the NCL to the dark side is simply because of the standard of the competition and how it was run.

where in the rules does it say theyll be kicked out the league for not fullfilling a fixture? im sure its only a fine, points deduction/ relegation. im sure a harsh decision of expulsion from the ncl isnt incuded for such an offence. anyone know for sure?

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How can you blame the clubs committee if they are having problems tearing players away from their families, what we have to realise is families come first, work second and then your hobby.

remember the fixture concerned is middle of october, isnt that the current and past winter schedule. cant remember leigh east not fulfilling any fixture in deepest summer. unless the summer now consists of all months from feb to nov. if only!

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where in the rules does it say theyll be kicked out the league for not fullfilling a fixture? im sure its only a fine, points deduction/ relegation. im sure a harsh decision of expulsion from the ncl isnt incuded for such an offence. anyone know for sure?

I said they will not be kicked out for a simple nonfulfilment simply because they are looking to expand the NCL.

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remember the fixture concerned is middle of october, isnt that the current and past winter schedule. cant remember leigh east not fulfilling any fixture in deepest summer. unless the summer now consists of all months from feb to nov. if only!

Things do eventually come to a head.

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As a so called respected journalist for a so called respected rugby league journal, i find your comments rather insulting.

Without knowing the exact facts you should stay well out of it and report on the incident when the fact come out.

This is not the first time youve written dribble about clubs and players so keep your comments to your self PLEASE untli you know the facts.

Your nearly as bad as Phil(The winter)Hodgson

FYI, I am not 'Sparks'!

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I said they will not be kicked out for a simple nonfulfilment simply because they are looking to expand the NCL.

Marauder. You know nothing about the NCL except for what you read. I wouldn't say they will be kicked out (unless they don't turn up at Skirlaugh on Saturday and then they will!), but you can't honestly be stupid enough to think that the NCL wouldn't kick anyone out just because "they are looking to expand the NCL". I'm now beginning to think that you're not from Moorends, but a closet Leigh East member...

Don't you have your own Forum to pontificate on?

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Sparks is not Ryan Sparks.

Ryan has an account on here under the name of RyanSparks that he has occasionally used to post on here. If you use the search bar at the top and enter Sparks and then change it from Topics to Members it brings up 3 results Sparks, RyanSparks and sparks1.

A case of 2+2=5 there Longman

Cheers, Andy!

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Marauder stop being so myopic, i suppose that the wives and girlfriends of the Leigh players decided to let their partners play all through July and August so they can have a day out on the 13th of October

Summer Rugby is happening just accept it, Moorends play winter which is fine so just be happy with that

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Marauder. You know nothing about the NCL except for what you read. I wouldn't say they will be kicked out (unless they don't turn up at Skirlaugh on Saturday and then they will!), but you can't honestly be stupid enough to think that the NCL wouldn't kick anyone out just because "they are looking to expand the NCL". I'm now beginning to think that you're not from Moorends, but a closet Leigh East member...

Don't you have your own Forum to pontificate on?

I actually like Easts they made us very welcome a couple of years ago - Do you honestly think that at this moment in time the NCL Committee will be kicking anyone out of the NCL never mind one of its better clubs.

Why not find out what has gone so wrong at many clubs since the switch to summer or do you wait for a little bit of tweaking here and a little bit there until proud and honest clubs make the decision themselves.

We've seen what happens when well respected clubs decided to switch to summer in the NWC, the drip soon becomes a waterfall, I for wouldn't like to see this happen because it could undo decades of hard work.

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