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JohnM

England v France 3rd Nov

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It just shows how neutral referees (an i dont mean Silverwood or Ganson hoping to keep the moaning aussies happy to secure their annual trip to Aus for the Aztec game) can improve a game. There have been a few decisions that looked dody but compared to what the Aussies get given to then when they play it has been pretty good.

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There goes another penalty.

The thing is, we will not get a bean against the Aussies so why cant these games be reffed in a sinilar fashion to get us used to getting sod all

whilst i do think the ref has been too keen to penalise loose carries, i dont think theres been too much of an issue.

The problem is that a team losing the collision will be on the backfoot and be prone to giving penalties. Usually against the Aussies we are the team on the backfoot. Without ignoring things Im not sure what the answer is.

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What about the head shots the Aussies get away with - I'm thinking Tony Williams decapitating someone in the last series and not being walked

Anyway, the ref hasn't had much to do really

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What about the head shots the Aussies get away with - I'm thinking Tony Williams decapitating someone in the last series and not being walked

Anyway, the ref hasn't had much to do really

Bennie Westwood still dreams about that game

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What about the head shots the Aussies get away with - I'm thinking Tony Williams decapitating someone in the last series and not being walked

Anyway, the ref hasn't had much to do really

its an area i dont like in Test matches. Ellis has just got away with a tackle which has sent a French lad to hospital on a stretcher in a neck brace.

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20 - 0 at half time. I feel England coasted through the half. Was too many errors by England also. I'm watching and I don't think the game is relevant to the standard are going to have to play at to win next year. The just isn't enough intensity from England whatsoever, we're winning the collision nearly 75% percent of the time, the play after the win in the tackle we need someone steaming onto the ball every time. Against Aus and NZ every win in the tackle with and without the ball needs to be taken advantage of, if we're defending we take advantage of the extra time allowed at the play the ball and the defencive line is set and moves up quickly to win the collision again, and what I said earlier in attack. Ellis is one of the few players who does this consistently, its been drilled into him in the NRL and its also why Luke Burgess is much improved. We need to get more intense in attack and defence which we arnt showing in this game.

I'm very impressed with the three quarters, Hall Briscoe and Tomkins are all massive threats returning the ball whilst Cudjoe and especially Watkins are athletic and very strong although helped by poor french defence.

Half backs have done their job but i feel the errors need to be cut out and the intensity upped abit. Hoping for a better second half.

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its an area i dont like in Test matches. Ellis has just got away with a tackle which has sent a French lad to hospital on a stretcher in a neck brace.

It wasn't dirty !!

The injury is sad, but the tackle was hard and the player was falling.

International or club match irrelevant

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What about the head shots the Aussies get away with - I'm thinking Tony Williams decapitating someone in the last series and not being walked

Anyway, the ref hasn't had much to do really

Don't forget Thurston knocking someone out cold and being given MOM.

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It wasn't dirty !!

The injury is sad, but the tackle was hard and the player was falling.

International or club match irrelevant

it was certainly high and knocked the player clean out.

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It wasn't dirty !!

The injury is sad, but the tackle was hard and the player was falling.

International or club match irrelevant

it was certainly high and knocked the player clean out.

Falling into a strong arm which hits the head - my opinion

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What on earth is going on?

England get a penalty for nothing, then move the ball left where a man is blatantly taken out, followed by a try from a pass that went about 5 yards forward.

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50/50 call to me

Ellis certainly wasn't making any effort to lower his hit and was swinging his arm into the tackle

That the defender was sucking might just have helped Ellis out

That said the more this game goes on the less impressed i am with the ref.

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Ablett losses the ball whilst punching a player in the head and then gets a penalty, i suppse he is used to getting easy calls like that playing for Leeds

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50/50 call to me

Ellis certainly wasn't making any effort to lower his hit and was swinging his arm into the tackle

That the defender was sucking might just have helped Ellis out

That said the more this game goes on the less impressed i am with the ref.

yep. some of his decisions at the ruck are becoming random now.

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Bentley and Mounis have slowed everything up for France today. It's a shame because I like Mounis as a hard-working backrower.

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England have been very sloppy this half.

Good job really Dave two massive blow outs in internationals isn't good

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This is Hocks issue. Its one thing giving penalties for mis-timed high tackles but some of the silly penalties make him look stupid.

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