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Bradford pick up sponsorship from Asian business

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Not bad is Rajas chicken shop. Occasionally get them when at work. Looks like he isn't sitting on his hands Mr Khan.

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http://www.therfl.co...lls-first-asian

Good to see that the Bulls'change of ownership is yielding results, lets hope that many more members of the Asian community will become involved in the game not only as sponsors but also players coaches and administrators.

Good news for the Bulls (que moaners about Halal meat) :ph34r:

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In the longer article in the T&A, Omar Khan said everyone who attended last week's sponsor night (over 300) sponsored the club in some way, with packages from £50+.

I particularly like this quote:

“I want every community to be part of the club. It is a place of no creed, colour and religion, just passion for the Bulls."

Certainly can't fault his outlook, it's great to have some upbeat news coming out of Odsal.

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This is great news.

I am a firm believer that there is a huge Asian market waiting to be tapped into.

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Yes, there's a massive market just waiting to be excited by the product on offer. In fact this could benefit the whole game throughout the north (& maybe London too)!

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couldnt care less if there asian or not . there new sponsors of rugby league so good luck to em

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couldnt care less if there asian or not . there new sponsors of rugby league so good luck to em

I agree, it shouldn't matter a jot, but but it is a section of community which is not well represented within the game, so it is noteworthy on that basis alone. If it leads to more people who have never attended any games actually considering going to rugby matches it is a big win for the game as a whole.

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couldnt care less if there asian or not . there new sponsors of rugby league so good luck to em

That's a commendable attitude and one I share.

And I know we all know this, but, without wanting to put sixty years of social history into one paragraph, it's unfortunately not been one held (on both side of the fence) by enough people - not within RL specifically, but in society. Therefore, this is a huge deal - hopefully in one way for the Bulls and in the other for the wider Bradford community and beyond.

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couldnt care less if there asian or not . there new sponsors of rugby league so good luck to em

I agree, it shouldn't matter a jot, but but it is a section of community which is not well represented within the game, so it is noteworthy on that basis alone. If it leads to more people who have never attended any games actually considering going to rugby matches it is a big win for the game as a whole.

That's a commendable attitude and one I share.

And I know we all know this, but, without wanting to put sixty years of social history into one paragraph, it's unfortunately not been one held (on both side of the fence) by enough people - not within RL specifically, but in society. Therefore, this is a huge deal - hopefully in one way for the Bulls and in the other for the wider Bradford community and beyond.

Well said guys.

A sponsorship we should all be proud of!!!

Hopefully this will encourage other business / communities to get involved with our game.

Great News for the Bulls, Bull fans deserve some good news

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It's a positive thing to see that across the Rugby League community, companies from markets not traditionally associated with the game are getting involved.

- Malaysian Airlines - Malaysia (Kiwis)

- Huawei - China (Raiders)

- Kaspersky - Russia (Sea Eagles)

- Philippines Airlines - Philippines (Philippines national team)

- Rajas (Bradford)

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Good news for the Bulls (que moaners about Halal meat) :ph34r:

Some people have a reasonable objection to Halal slaughter methods.

It's not moaning.

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Some people have a reasonable objection to Halal slaughter methods.

It's not moaning.

its virtualy the same as the kosher method and you dont hear complaints about that

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Sorry for hijacking Bradford fans, but didn't seem worth a new thread.. Wigan picking up a new sponsor also..

Rugby League's Wigan Warriors have announced a new shirt sponsorship partnership with Ainscough Crane Hire part of Group Ainscough.

Ainscough are a national based company and the two-year contract will see the company name on the left shoulder of both the home and away shirts for the First Team in 2013 and 2014.

Ainscough Crane Hire is the largest lifting service company in the UK operating from 28 strategic locations with the Head Office based locally at Standish.

The company operate over 460 cranes, serve over 4,500 customers and employ over 1,000 staff making them the largest mobile crane provider in the UK and one of the largest in the world.

Speaking about the Partnership Gareth Jones from Ainscough said: "Wigan Warriors are the biggest name in Rugby League and one of the most successful in club history. They have a strong following and local heritage and history like ourselves. Therefore it seemed natural to take the similarities between both organisations and join forces for the next few years. Warriors, like ourselves have ambitious plans for 2013-14 and we look forward to working with them especially in the community and wish Shaun Wane and his side all the very best for the 2013 season."

Wigan Warriors Sales Director Geoff Warburton added: "We are thrilled to welcome Ainscough Crane Hire on board as a new shirt sponsor for the forthcoming season. It is always pleasing to attract new businesses to become involved with us and we look forward to welcoming the management, staff and clients of Ainscough to the DW Stadium from February and into forging a long term relationship with them as we have with many other of our partners."

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Sorry for hijacking Bradford fans, but didn't seem worth a new thread.. Wigan picking up a new sponsor also..

Rugby League's Wigan Warriors have announced a new shirt sponsorship partnership with Ainscough Crane Hire part of Group Ainscough.

Ainscough are a national based company and the two-year contract will see the company name on the left shoulder of both the home and away shirts for the First Team in 2013 and 2014.

Ainscough Crane Hire is the largest lifting service company in the UK operating from 28 strategic locations with the Head Office based locally at Standish.

The company operate over 460 cranes, serve over 4,500 customers and employ over 1,000 staff making them the largest mobile crane provider in the UK and one of the largest in the world.

Speaking about the Partnership Gareth Jones from Ainscough said: "Wigan Warriors are the biggest name in Rugby League and one of the most successful in club history. They have a strong following and local heritage and history like ourselves. Therefore it seemed natural to take the similarities between both organisations and join forces for the next few years. Warriors, like ourselves have ambitious plans for 2013-14 and we look forward to working with them especially in the community and wish Shaun Wane and his side all the very best for the 2013 season."

Wigan Warriors Sales Director Geoff Warburton added: "We are thrilled to welcome Ainscough Crane Hire on board as a new shirt sponsor for the forthcoming season. It is always pleasing to attract new businesses to become involved with us and we look forward to welcoming the management, staff and clients of Ainscough to the DW Stadium from February and into forging a long term relationship with them as we have with many other of our partners."

you dont work for them by any chance do you ?

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its virtualy the same as the kosher method and you dont hear complaints about that

That's hardly as prevalent though.

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That's hardly as prevalent though.

it is when you go round parts of north leeds

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Some people have a reasonable objection to Halal slaughter methods.

It's not moaning.

Animals can be slaughtered both humanely and within the law to satisfy both Muslim and Jewish religious requirements. I think what you may be referring to are people that operate outside of both these standards.

Sure it's not moaning, but it's probably either ignorance, religious intolerance or perhaps something even less savoury.

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Some people have a reasonable objection to Halal slaughter methods.

It's not moaning.

http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/halal.htm

The scientific facts

A team at the university of Hannover in Germany examined these claims through the use of EEG and ECG records during slaughter. Several electrodes were surgically implanted at various points of the skull of all the animals used in the experiment and they were then allowed to recover for several weeks. Some of the animals were subsequently slaughtered the halal way by making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck, cutting the jugular veins and carotid arteries of both sides together with the trachea and esophagus but leaving the spinal cord intact. The remainder were stunned before slaughter using a captive bolt pistol method as is customary in Western slaughterhouses. The EEG and ECG recordings allowed to monitor the condition of the brain and heart throughout.

The Halal method

With the halal method of slaughter, there was not change in the EEG graph for the first three seconds after the incision was made, indicating that the animal did not feel any pain from the cut itself. This is not surprising. Often, if we cut ourselves with a sharp implement, we do not notice until some time later. The following three seconds were characterised by a condition of deep sleep-like unconciousness brought about by the draining of large quantities of blood from the body. Thereafter the EEG recorded a zero reading, indicating no pain at all, yet at that time the heart was still beating and the body convulsing vigorously as a reflex reaction of the spinal cord. It is this phase which is most unpleasant to onlookers who are falsely convinced that the animal suffers whilst its brain does actually no longer record any sensual messages.

The Western method

Using the Western method, the animals were apparently unconscious after stunning, and this method of dispatch would appear to be much more peaceful for the onlooker. However, the EEG readings indicated severe pain immediately after stunning. Whereas in the first example, the animal ceases to feel pain due to the brain starvation of blood and oxygen – a brain death, to put it in laymen’s terms – the second example first causes a stoppage of the heart whilst the animal still feels pain. However, there are no unsightly convulsions, which not only means that there is more blood retention in the meat, but also that this method lends itself much more conveniently to the efficiency demands of modern mass slaughter procedures. It is so much easier to dispatch an animal on the conveyor belt, if it does not move.

Appearances can deceive

Not all is what it seems, then. Those who want to outlaw Islamic slaughter, arguing for a humane method of killing animals for food, are actually more concerned about the feelings of people than those of the animals on whose behalf they appear to speak. The stunning method makes mass butchery easier and looks more palatable for the consumer who can deceive himself that the animal did not feel any pain when he goes to buy his cleanly wrapped parcel of meat from the supermarket. Islamic slaughter, on the other hand, does not try to deny that meat consumption means that animals have to die, but is designed to ensure that their loss of life is achieved with a minimum amount of pain.

The holistic view

Islam is a balanced way of life. For Muslims, the privilege of supplementing their diet with animal protein implies a duty to animal welfare, both during the rearing of the animal and during the slaughter. Modern Western farming and slaughter, on the other hand, aims at the mass consumer market and treats the animal as a commodity. Just as battery hens are easier for large-scale egg production, Western slaughter methods are easier for the meat industry, but they do neither the animal nor the end consumer any favours. The Islamic way guarantees a healthier life for the animal and a healthier meat for the consumer.

So I guess its basically like a Mafioso killing themself by slitting their wrists in a warm bath? The animal is unconsious soon after the initial insision using an extremely sharp blade. Even if the animal feels any pain it would be for less than a second as the incision is made.

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If you go for a curry in Bradford, you are going to get Halal meat. You pay your money, take your choice and live with any conscience that you might have about it.

The main "beef" about halal meat in Bradford is that some schools allegedly serve only Halal meat in their dinners. This would unnecessarily increase the number of animals that are ritually slaughtered in preference to using more humane (in the legal sense) methods.

True to "form", the council Education Dept's publicity is determinedly vague about the issue ... it states which schools serve Halal meat and which don't. It doesn't confirm whether children or, more importantly, their parents have a choice in what meat they eat.

http://www.bradford.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/740CBC2F-540D-4C98-9443-C3AC7346879C/0/halalBradfordMDCSchoolsHalalProvision.pdf

My granddaughter goes to Wibsey Junior School which, like one in Clayton where I live, has a minority of muslim children. However, both serve Halal meat. I'm not sure whether any humanely-slaughtered meat is offered on an alternative menu. I will ask her.

Clayton also has Church of England and Catholic state primary schools. Both have a similar minority of muslim children on the roster.

The St Anthony's Catholic school is stated not to serve Halal meat while the Council states that it has "no information available" about the C of E school. There is no way that it does not establish this for certain and so, one can safely assume that it doesn't wish the issue to be publicised amongst those parents in the local community who deliberately send their children to a faith-based school.

The cynic in me says that the council is only being coy about the issue because:-

- either there is no alternative to Halal meat on the menu.

or

- the meat on the menu is non-Halal, but it wishes to encourage more integrated education in its faith schools.

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Well, this is certainly some of the stranger thread drift I have encountered.

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Some people have a reasonable objection to Halal slaughter methods.

It's not moaning.

It would be in this thread. There's the "other sports and topics" for that.

Fortunately you didn't do it. ;):D but others will.

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Its funny how the most unlikely characters are sudden convinced animal right true believers. Cant work out why but i'm sure their eggs are free range and their yoghurt is knitted to the highest standards. the sincerity oozes out from their pores.

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Its funny how the most unlikely characters are sudden convinced animal right true believers. Cant work out why but i'm sure their eggs are free range and their yoghurt is knitted to the highest standards. the sincerity oozes out from their pores.

If you're referring to me, I'm a declared hypocrite on the issue.

(1) I love Bradford curries and go regularly to muslim curry houses. At the same time, I would prefer that all animals are stunned before slaughter. If all people who think like me were completely opposed to the Halal or Kosher slaughter method we would boycott curries and/or turn vegetarian.

(2) As a kid, my Dad kept battery hens in cages. Then, as a student, I worked in a research lab that did animal testing. In both cases, as a result of the passing years and dissociation from those practices, I'm far more concerned now about the animals' welfare than I was at the time.

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