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Gareth Hock....future in Oz?

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Would be a good move for him,heard he wants to get away from his old "lifestyle", Aussie clubs don't like paying transfer fees do they,would imagine he would sign when he's OOC.

Aren't the Eels also rumoured to be signing Israel Falau?

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If hock goes to the eels, that's the biggest two fingers ever to the pies.

They've stood by him and could be leaving them in the poo.

Hock has been amazing this season, he's made me change my opinion on how good he is and IMHO he's over taken Super Bennie

Leaving Super League will be good for him, but IMHO it's shitt ting on Wigans loyal fans.

I don't buy this " we've got youngsters coming through". You can't replace hock with a youngster, he's irreplaceable with the players in England.

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He's on a fairly long contract i believe so its up to Wigan if he goes or stays.

Only rugby players in the NRL out of all sports seem to have any degree of loyalty these days.

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just heard jason robinson going to union :unsure:

Meaning?

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Still behind super Ben. His down fall was all the stupid penalties he gave away. He's cut that out. Hock still hasn't. Still too many stupid moments. At top level, the Aussies would exploit his tendency to give away penalties to kill us. They used to do that to Benny, but he's matured now.

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He's on a fairly long contract i believe so its up to Wigan if he goes or stays.

Yes and no! Whilst technically it is up to Wigan if someone wants to leave its always been the policy to let them. Also at the end of his current contract he'll probably not be worth much due to age etc, but being bought out now should net a lot of money.

My biggest worry is that over the last 3 or 4 years, all the players we've lost, have been replaced, but they've always been not quite as good. I think Leeds have shown that to have a consistently good team you need stability.

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Meaning?

Think they are implying you are slightly late with this news. It was posted in the English players in Australia 2013 thread on Monday. Bobby Goulding tweeted it monday afternoon.

Goulding is now having some kind of twitter row with John Wilkin after tweeting yesterday that Wilkin had been at Widnes meeting Dennis Betts!

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If hock goes to the eels, that's the biggest two fingers ever to the pies.

They've stood by him and could be leaving them in the poo.

How is he leaving them in the poo?

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How is he leaving them in the poo?

IMHO - Wigan have stood by Hock in the two years in the wilderness, comes back as a top performer week in week out and if he was to leave it leaves a massive gap to plug.

Who's good enough to lace his boots, Hocks assists will not be replaced over night, never mind the yardage he makes.

Top Class player - Hughes has potential, Farrelll is good (compared to Hock) and Tuson seems to have gone backwards!!!

So IMHO that leaves a gap in the back row and Wigan in the poo.

Flippin Heck I'm a Wire being nice and giving courtesy towards Wigan.

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Still behind super Ben. His down fall was all the stupid penalties he gave away. He's cut that out. Hock still hasn't. Still too many stupid moments. At top level, the Aussies would exploit his tendency to give away penalties to kill us. They used to do that to Benny, but he's matured now.

Why did Ben average more penalties a game than Hock if he's cut them out?

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Why did Ben average more penalties a game than Hock if he's cut them out?

Hock 24 Pens - 1 red Card

Westwood 22 Pens - no cards

As per Stobart Superleague stats

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Fair enough Wigan did stand by him in some troubled times for him.. and i agree he should show a certain degree of loyalty to Wigan.. but he's not getting any younger and at the end of the day you have to look after yourself.. if he does go i'd imagine it would be at the end of the 2013 season, with a bit of compensation coming Wigan's way. Had Gareth Hock been a decidedly average player, Wigan might not have been so keen to stand by him. #justsaying

Hock leaving would be a dent for Wigan though, no denying that. aAwesome player. But someone i would love to see in the NRL

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Hock 24 Pens - 1 red Card

Westwood 22 Pens - no cards

As per Stobart Superleague stats

How many games did they play, by the way?

There's not much between them - both world class for mine.

Hock's going this year would be a massive loss for Wigan (unless we get an equivalent replacement). If we have a year to adapt I am sure we will find a way.

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Think they are implying you are slightly late with this news. It was posted in the English players in Australia 2013 thread on Monday. Bobby Goulding tweeted it monday afternoon.

Thanks. Hadn't read that thread so I'm disappointed but not surprised in the manner of reply from mymissus.

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Hock would be a massive loss for wigan especially seeing as we're already losing 3 key players and Lima will be leaving a gap (though not unfillable) in the forwards, we could really do with him at least for the 2013 season. Its a shame we couldn't see Graham in the autumn series to get a real look at weather shipping over to the NRL induces better play in an England shirt, no doubt the new experience would mature his game though. I can see his point about wanting to leave his past too, every time he knocks on it's because he's a druggy which I can imagine being a bit tiresome after serving a ban and returning to good form, probably more motivated by cash a bit of sun and a new challenge though.

As far as week-in week-out discipline goes I reckon Hock and Westwood are much of a muchness, they both enjoy throwing their weight around and the ability they have to push other players. Just seems like hock has a tendency to overreact, the england game this weekend being a prime example. Thats one aspect of his game that he needs to cut out if he wants to shake his past and really excel at the sport.

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Hock 24 Pens - 1 red Card

Westwood 22 Pens - no cards

As per Stobart Superleague stats

Westwood 18 games - 1.22 penalties a game.

Hock 22 games - 1.09 penalties a game.

A per super league stats. So my point stands.

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Thanks. Hadn't read that thread so I'm disappointed but not surprised in the manner of reply from mymissus.

twas just a jest :D

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twas just a jest :D

That's ok, I like to overreact and show my overly sensitive side these days.

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Westwood 18 games - 1.22 penalties a game.

Hock 22 games - 1.09 penalties a game.

A per super league stats. So my point stands.

Fair do's

Didn't look at number of games played

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Parramatta have all but signed Israel Falou from Aussie Rules and he will take up almost all of their available SC money.

He will be their priority signing to get fans through the gates and there may not be enough money to sign Gaz Hock.

Although, with their central funding going up by $2m this week it seems that an increase in the NRL salary cap could be on the cards.

If the Eels can only sign one of the two it won't be Gaz Hock.

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Parramatta have all but signed Israel Falou from Aussie Rules and he will take up almost all of their available SC money.

He will be their priority signing to get fans through the gates and there may not be enough money to sign Gaz Hock.

Although, with their central funding going up by $2m this week it seems that an increase in the NRL salary cap could be on the cards.

If the Eels can only sign one of the two it won't be Gaz Hock.

The Eels have had Hindmarsh and Burt retire and others move on, they should have some money.

I agree though, Folau will be a lot higher up their list than Hock.

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Bad times ahead for Super League if/when the NRL raise their cap,all the best players will be heading for Oz IMO!

Making SL even weaker than it is now! On the plus side though it will strengthen our International team.

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IMHO - Wigan have stood by Hock in the two years in the wilderness, comes back as a top performer week in week out and if he was to leave it leaves a massive gap to plug.

Who's good enough to lace his boots, Hocks assists will not be replaced over night, never mind the yardage he makes.

Wigan are not a one man team.

He will not be leaving them in the ######.

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