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From reading all the comments I'm more convinced about Wembley as a venue but I still think it needs to be at the clubs home grounds in either England or Australia.

The WCC doesn't have the x factor like the Challenge Cup Final has (yet anyway) and I would fear for the game to be overshadowed by poor attendance and atmosphere!

Okay there would probably be more at Wembley than the 20k in Headingley but as a whole the game would come over alot better on home soil than a neutral venue.

I don't have a problem with switching between Eng/Aus each time because it makes the competition as fair as possible, would just be gutted because wouldn't be able to finance a trip to Aus!

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and on saturday & sunday we'd have the World 7's or 9's for international teams

Now that is also a good idea! I'd love the World 7's to come back. That would be a much better use of our Magic Weekend!

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It's down to money as usual. Sky provide a chunk of money to underwrite the even. The best solution is clearly her one year, Oz the next, but until the Aussies commit to that and sign up for it with a TV deal in place it won't happen.

The Manly article of 80,000 was just tosh.

If you could get such a big crowd and make big money, why on earth would a club like Leeds say no to a couple of weeks warm weather training in Oz, followed by a prestige game in front of 80,000?

They wouldn't. Much as it pains me to say it, Leeds are a smart club, and they know that the long-term benefits of that would be massive to their club, rather than a match at Headingley.

Truth is, it's always too late from the Aussies, and is just paper talk.

Sign a joint 4 year TV deal with the RFL now, and get contracts in place that commits whoever are the winners over the next few years. I bet the SL clubs would sign up at once, doubt the Aussies will.

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It's down to money as usual. Sky provide a chunk of money to underwrite the even. The best solution is clearly her one year, Oz the next, but until the Aussies commit to that and sign up for it with a TV deal in place it won't happen.

The Manly article of 80,000 was just tosh.

If you could get such a big crowd and make big money, why on earth would a club like Leeds say no to a couple of weeks warm weather training in Oz, followed by a prestige game in front of 80,000?

They wouldn't. Much as it pains me to say it, Leeds are a smart club, and they know that the long-term benefits of that would be massive to their club, rather than a match at Headingley.

Truth is, it's always too late from the Aussies, and is just paper talk.

Sign a joint 4 year TV deal with the RFL now, and get contracts in place that commits whoever are the winners over the next few years. I bet the SL clubs would sign up at once, doubt the Aussies will.

No,

The Tosh is that Leeds will travel to Australia in May to play the Storm, the equivalent of what the Aussie clubs do now.

The facts are the English Clubs need this game and have it on a Pedestal.

The Aussie Clubs think its a pre season ###### up where a win would be handy but whatever, its not a serious game as its always in England at a time to suit the English Club weeks before the NRL starts.

Its not complicated.

The NRL IS the elite competition, does it crave games against SL Clubs? do the NRL fans know, care or rate SL Clubs?

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If you could get such a big crowd and make big money, why on earth would a club like Leeds say no to a couple of weeks warm weather training in Oz, followed by a prestige game in front of 80,000?

So if Leeds were to get a couple of weeks warm weather training before the game, it would presumably have to be before the SL season starts, which would be January. The NRL clubs dont even start playing pre season games til February, so they wouldn't agree to a match that early. Unless you're suggesting that Leeds take a few weeks out of SL just to prepare for the WCC? The only other way is to play the game as now without a couple of weeks 'warm weather training', but would Leeds really be happy to play a SL match on Friday, fly down under and play a WCC game in Oz the following weekend?

Until a clear gap in the fixtures on both sides of the world can be found, we'll have the WCC in this country annually with the NRL clubs treating it as a glorified trial game.

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2005 after their best season for many years Leeds elected to play at Elland road because of the demand to see Leeds play in the WCC,and there was over 37000,2008 there was 33k,the next one 32000,then it was 27k.I think the nuetral fans got a bit blase seeing Leeds play in this game most years.So maybe GH thought we could fill Headingley and make more money than 27000 at ER

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2005 after their best season for many years Leeds elected to play at Elland road because of the demand to see Leeds play in the WCC,and there was over 37000,2008 there was 33k,the next one 32000,then it was 27k.I think the nuetral fans got a bit blase seeing Leeds play in this game most years.So maybe GH thought we could fill Headingley and make more money than 27000 at ER

That's the thing though. It shouldn't be his choice where it's played. It should be a joint decision between the RFL and the ARL or really the RLIF. It should also be announced where it is a lot earlier so they can build up the event all year round like they do the GF and CCF.

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Er, I wasn't realistically claiming it should be held at Wembley. Only stating that in an ideal world, the demand to see such a phenomenal side would warrant it.

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That's the thing though. It shouldn't be his choice where it's played. It should be a joint decision between the RFL and the ARL or really the RLIF. It should also be announced where it is a lot earlier so they can build up the event all year round like they do the GF and CCF.

Yes I agree.I was just saying maybe thats the reasons to why he has reverted back to Headingley.I think it should be promoted like they are doing with the RLWC right now,build it up make it bigger,AND get the Aussies to really get on board with it too.I agree with you

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Maybe if the English Club played in Australia before their season starts and the NRL was 4-5 weeks under way we would see how many English Clubs would win? certainly not a Club that came fifth in its domestic comp.

Impossible, the NRL clubs barely play any games so their season starts after ours

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That's the thing though. It shouldn't be his choice where it's played. It should be a joint decision between the RFL and the ARL or really the RLIF. It should also be announced where it is a lot earlier so they can build up the event all year round like they do the GF and CCF.

GH has constantly stated he would play the WCC in Oz,Dubai etc but as AndyCapp has stated the NRL don't take it seriously.

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its always in England at a time to suit the English Club weeks before the NRL starts.

It's always during the SL season which means the English side has to play a midweek match to make up for it. If you have it later, then it's disrupting both teams' seasons and the SL club would have been playing for 2 months!

So when do you suggest the game takes place so that it's fair?

And before you say "after the grand final", let me know how easy/cheap you think it would be to book flights to Australia (or the other way round) with up to 2 weeks notice. And when are the internationals going to take place?

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Why does it have to be played four weeks into the Superleague season.

The WCC should be played before both seasons start i think Superleague season should start in the first week in March and I think what should have been done last year is that Wigan, Salford or St Helens should have been allowed to play a home SL game on the same friday night as the WCC given that Lancashire fans won't support a Yorkshire team given that BBC Radio Manchester who cover Wigan and Salford and BBC Radio Merseyside who cover Widnes and St Helens with both Manchester/Merseyside covering Warrington obviously won't send commentators/reporters to the World Club Championship with the Rhinos if say Salford are at home to Wigan/Warrington/Widnes/St Helens on the same weekend as the WCC Salford should be allowed to play it on the Friday of the WCC game given that Sale could end up playing on the Sunday for TV reasons and a big attendance for Salford given that are Lancashire SL fans who would want to support their team rather than watch Leeds

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So if Leeds were to get a couple of weeks warm weather training before the game, it would presumably have to be before the SL season starts, which would be January. The NRL clubs dont even start playing pre season games til February, so they wouldn't agree to a match that early. Unless you're suggesting that Leeds take a few weeks out of SL just to prepare for the WCC? The only other way is to play the game as now without a couple of weeks 'warm weather training', but would Leeds really be happy to play a SL match on Friday, fly down under and play a WCC game in Oz the following weekend?

Until a clear gap in the fixtures on both sides of the world can be found, we'll have the WCC in this country annually with the NRL clubs treating it as a glorified trial game.

I don't see there would be any problem playing the match in May or at any time to suit the Aussie's. It's been moved a few weeks later into the SL season to suit the Aussies, so our club has to play a mid week match. Makes no difference if the WCC is played in SL Round 3 or round 13 to be honest. Clearly if the match was in Oz, the SL club would need to juggle two fixtures to allow them to travel , but that could be achieved.

A club like Leeds would build their season around peaking for the WCC, Challenge Cup and play-offs.

The reason it doesn't happen is because the Aussies can't see any short-term benefit in it for them.

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Why does it have to be played four weeks into the Superleague season.

The WCC should be played before both seasons start i think Superleague season should start in the first week in March

If it's played any earlier, NRL clubs will barely be in their pre-season!

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