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Match day experience 2013 and flags...

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My daughter used to come to matches when she was younger to see Roger the Ram, Frank Watene, the match and eat ice creams or sweets. She was a season ticket holder. The match day experience does sway some people, yes we need a winning side, but other things do tip the balance for some.

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Lets get it right the players respond to vocal support and the more vocal the support the more they respond.This doesnt include legs dews legs.The players are only interested in how much the Barmy Army get behind the team.This season we will be back to our old self.If we need a drummer we will get one..If you dont like it theres seats in the north stand.The South Stand belongs to the Barmy Army.

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As someone who sits in the North Stand,i think the more vocal support for the team the better.Lets get the place rocking before the game and during it.

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Lets get it right the players respond to vocal support and the more vocal the support the more they respond.This doesnt include legs dews legs.The players are only interested in how much the Barmy Army get behind the team.This season we will be back to our old self.If we need a drummer we will get one..If you dont like it theres seats in the north stand.The South Stand belongs to the Barmy Army.

Hmmm, strange sort of democracy isn't it. Fifteen half-cut blokes singing out of tune determine the wishes of 300+.

We may appear to moan and groan a bit but we've done the hard years and earned our right to grumble whenever we want. We also have the right to stand as long as our legs will hold us up and not join the geriatrics in the North Stand until we finally have to.

(Sheesh, it's boring when there's no proper RL to watch isn't it?)

;)

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Hmmm, strange sort of democracy isn't it. Fifteen half-cut blokes singing out of tune determine the wishes of 300+.

We may appear to moan and groan a bit but we've done the hard years and earned our right to grumble whenever we want. We also have the right to stand as long as our legs will hold us up and not join the geriatrics in the North Stand until we finally have to.

(Sheesh, it's boring when there's no proper RL to watch isn't it?)

;)

You should come and join us BSJ - no drums or whistles, and you certainly can't hear the barmy army. Plus the bonus of a nice warm bar at half time AND if you sit next to the bloke from radio leeds you get a running commentary and get to find out who the players are without having to consult your "observers book of squad numbers". If you just want to prove you can stand up looking bored and moaning for a couple of hours, I'll arrange for you to go shopping with the wife - it works for me. ;)

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Thinking about this, it's probably wrong for people to say they "don't care about the matchday experience".

As Wakefield Ram points out, off-the-field stuff like Roger does make a difference to whether or not many young people attend matches.

We've then got to think about all the other things that make up the matchday experience.

Length of queues at the turnstiles, teamsheets, volume of the PA system, kick-off times - things which certain contributors to this thread have complained about in the past - are all a part of it.

There's clearly much more to supporting Dewsbury Rams than the product on the field so it's certainly something that's worth a discussion.

The players do appreciate the vocal backing of the fans from the terraces and it's a shame that more people don't join in.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I do think the singers should stand at the back of the stand to make more noise.

I also think that 'negative' songs should be avoided. When we played Batley at home in the league it was noticeable how many songs were just 'anti-Batley' as opposed to 'pro-Dewsbury'. I think we need more of the latter.

And can we also not bother with the "Joe Bloggs takes it up *** ***". It isn't funny, doesn't help our team and will discourage other supporters from joining in.

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I can tell you that 2 lads are considering bringing the drum next season, next season we want to create more of an atmosphere. Young dean came up to me and told me hes getting a drum or asked if i could sort him one out and our old drummer says hes coming back next season with his drum... Sorry BSJ and co.. but if people want to get behind the lads then you cant tell us not to bang on a drum and chant because nobody as that right, its helps get alot more younger ones and indeed some adults into enjoying their rams experience far more.. So lets all do our bit and get behind the lads in the best way we can. Its up to you if you chant or not.....

Good post tom by the way, i agree and i have tried in past getting people to the back of the stand but alot of fans wont move. It is however their choice, and not mine to tell them where to stand or sit... Just like nobody can tell the barmy army they cant play a drum or chant.

ONETHING WE ALL AGREE ON THOUGH, IS OUR LOVE FOR OUR CLUB, SO HERES TO A GOOD SEASON... :)

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I can tell you that 2 lads are considering bringing the drum next season, next season we want to create more of an atmosphere. Young dean came up to me and told me hes getting a drum or asked if i could sort him one out and our old drummer says hes coming back next season with his drum... Sorry BSJ and co.. but if people want to get behind the lads then you cant tell us not to bang on a drum and chant because nobody as that right, its helps get alot more younger ones and indeed some adults into enjoying their rams experience far more.. So lets all do our bit and get behind the lads in the best way we can. Its up to you if you chant or not.....

Good post tom by the way, i agree and i have tried in past getting people to the back of the stand but alot of fans wont move. It is however their choice, and not mine to tell them where to stand or sit... Just like nobody can tell the barmy army they cant play a drum or chant.

ONETHING WE ALL AGREE ON THOUGH, IS OUR LOVE FOR OUR CLUB, SO HERES TO A GOOD SEASON... :)

I would point out that the club did ban drums a couple of years ago. I am not aware that this ban has now been lifted; maybe GFDU could enlighten us?. I know that I speak for many in saying that I do NOT like drums at matches and they considerably detract from my personal matchday enjoyment. I also find that those who wish to "play" them are no more than infantile exhibitionists - but that is simply my humble opinion. :mellow:

Vocal support/backing doesn't always have to involve singing, by the way; we all get behind the team one way or another, it just sometimes doesn't sound like it, Also, like many other people, I much prefer the freedom that terracing provides to move around and discuss the game with others that you aren't simply sitting next to. I occupied a seat in the main stand at Crown Flatt for years yet much preferred the experience on the long stand, notwithstanding the vagaries of the weather.

Tom's recent post is excellent and quite correct in that the matchday experience is very much more than the game on the pitch. It is also worth understanding that we all like different things and that the enjoyment of one group should not be allowed to become the unpleasant experience of others; everyone needs to be catered for/pandered to in one way or another, as far as the club can accommodate it.

So, what would improve my personal enjoyment? In no particular order:

1. A car park that I can walk across without filling my boots with water.

2. Properly designated turnstiles on the South Stand.

3. A small sign indicating the voucher number for the match so that everyone doesn't have to ask the turnstile operator the same question.

4. Sufficient team sheets available at the turnstiles.

5. School/club matches on the pitch at half time.

6 The team immediately come to each stand at the end of the game to receive applause/brickbats.

7. Greater variety in the programme content (a thankless task, I know).

8. More Dewsbury fans present at every match.

I am sure that others can add to this list.

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I would point out that the club did ban drums a couple of years ago. I am not aware that this ban has now been lifted; maybe GFDU could enlighten us?. I know that I speak for many in saying that I do NOT like drums at matches and they considerably detract from my personal matchday enjoyment. I also find that those who wish to "play" them are no more than infantile exhibitionists - but that is simply my humble opinion. :mellow:

Vocal support/backing doesn't always have to involve singing, by the way; we all get behind the team one way or another, it just sometimes doesn't sound like it, Also, like many other people, I much prefer the freedom that terracing provides to move around and discuss the game with others that you aren't simply sitting next to. I occupied a seat in the main stand at Crown Flatt for years yet much preferred the experience on the long stand, notwithstanding the vagaries of the weather.

Tom's recent post is excellent and quite correct in that the matchday experience is very much more than the game on the pitch. It is also worth understanding that we all like different things and that the enjoyment of one group should not be allowed to become the unpleasant experience of others; everyone needs to be catered for/pandered to in one way or another, as far as the club can accommodate it.

So, what would improve my personal enjoyment? In no particular order:

1. A car park that I can walk across without filling my boots with water.

2. Properly designated turnstiles on the South Stand.

3. A small sign indicating the voucher number for the match so that everyone doesn't have to ask the turnstile operator the same question.

4. Sufficient team sheets available at the turnstiles.

5. School/club matches on the pitch at half time.

6 The team immediately come to each stand at the end of the game to receive applause/brickbats.

7. Greater variety in the programme content (a thankless task, I know).

8. More Dewsbury fans present at every match.

I am sure that others can add to this list.

Good post, atleest we all can agree on one thing, our love for our club. I just sometimes feel other teams get better vocal support than dewsbury fans give our team but i cant force people to chant..

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As far as i am aware drums are banned from the ground although violins and triangles are permissable , personaly i love drums provided they are used by such as carl palmer or ginger baker . Drums in the hands of tone deaf incompetents are the work of the devil

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if drums are banned from rugby grounds then clubs (people in charge) need to get a grip and grow up. it makes the atmosphere where ever you play.

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Last time this idea of drums flags etc was discused didnt Kirklees H & S dept tell club no as these items could be used as weapons or some such ruling , as they own the land and club are leaseholders ? Sorry if Im wrong but I recall a conversation with clubs safety officer a few years ago after a row with York who wanted to bring drum to ground and were banned

Perhaps mr Scargill can tell us again please ?

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if drums are banned from rugby grounds then clubs (people in charge) need to get a grip and grow up. it makes the atmosphere where ever you play.

So do huge flags and marine flares, if Italian football grounds are an example. I fail to see how someone banging a drum makes an atmosphere. Maybe those who do like to bang and listen to drums should gather on the new terracing where they can play to their heart's content.

Sorry to bang on about this.

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I can tell you that 2 lads are considering bringing the drum next season, next season we want to create more of an atmosphere. Young dean came up to me and told me hes getting a drum or asked if i could sort him one out and our old drummer says hes coming back next season with his drum... Sorry BSJ and co.. but if people want to get behind the lads then you cant tell us not to bang on a drum and chant because nobody as that right, its helps get alot more younger ones and indeed some adults into enjoying their rams experience far more.. So lets all do our bit and get behind the lads in the best way we can. Its up to you if you chant or not.....

Good post tom by the way, i agree and i have tried in past getting people to the back of the stand but alot of fans wont move. It is however their choice, and not mine to tell them where to stand or sit... Just like nobody can tell the barmy army they cant play a drum or chant.

ONETHING WE ALL AGREE ON THOUGH, IS OUR LOVE FOR OUR CLUB, SO HERES TO A GOOD SEASON... :)

I'm warning you - I'll bring my bagpipes then you'll all be sorry. :O

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Last time this idea of drums flags etc was discused didnt Kirklees H & S dept tell club no as these items could be used as weapons or some such ruling , as they own the land and club are leaseholders ? Sorry if Im wrong but I recall a conversation with clubs safety officer a few years ago after a row with York who wanted to bring drum to ground and were banned

Perhaps mr Scargill can tell us again please ?

When we went to the Bulldogs ground,they was a young puppy banging his drum in the new stand,do grounds have different H&S rules ? Can't really see what the problem is really.

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When I was a teeneager I was part of a gang of kids who for a while stood at the back of the old Long Stand, singing lewd songs, chanting at the Bobbies and having a go at the opposition players and fans. We went to away matches on the bus and sang and chanted all the way there and all the way back. A couple of lads became celebrities in Dewsbury when they were taken to court and fined for letting off sparklers in the ground one November (yes, sparklers, how dangerous was that?).

We reckoned then that we were the archetypal Dewsbury Supporters upholding the honour of the Red Amber and Black, but with the benefit of having grown up you realise that we were just a pain in the backside and an embarassment to the other Dewsbury supporters around us.

I draw no parallels, just sharing some memories I would rather forget that the current argument has brought to the surface.

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Just tonight me and floydy have orderd a large 3 striped red amber and black flag with 18 in middle and barmy army around the 18... 18 to simble the clubs fans as the 18th man :-)

This is now our 3rd large flag for next season and me and Tom was discussing tonight to makesure we bring them to everygame at home and hang them over the fence with no terracing to make the ground look further more attractive. Wel have a nice tidy looking stadium next season with the new terracing at the owl lane end so if anybody else wants to buy a new flag or hang a flag with ours on that fence then please feel free to join ours.

Good night tonight. 2013 looks promising :D

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I'm warning you - I'll bring my bagpipes then you'll all be sorry. :O

Now were talking cant beat the old William Wallace theme. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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