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Sonny Bill Williams rubs salt in the wound he gave the NRL

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The selfish scumbag Shouldnt be allowed to play for a many reasons. The way he walked out not just on his club but his teammates and fans after signing a 5 year deal and still hasnt apoligized or even admit he was wrong how he did it to his teammates. He has said he would rather stay in Union and has regrets etc. He has talked more about his boxing than about League! Great attitude. His Agent is Khoder who is not offically recognized by the NRL so who has been managing this agreement? The NRL has rightly stopped Danny Buderus from doing a bit of pre season coaching with the Brumbies Union team. So why is it OK for Williams to play Union in Japan upto February and also have a boxing match lined up just a week or so before the start of the NRL season? Money Bill Williams is a disgrace and the NRL and the game should not welcome this scumbag back. He has no real interest at all and thinks he can do what he wants.

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The selfish scumbag Shouldnt be allowed to play for a many reasons. The way he walked out not just on his club but his teammates and fans after signing a 5 year deal and still hasnt apoligized or even admit he was wrong how he did it to his teammates. He has said he would rather stay in Union and has regrets etc. He has talked more about his boxing than about League! Great attitude. His Agent is Khoder who is not offically recognized by the NRL so who has been managing this agreement? The NRL has rightly stopped Danny Buderus from doing a bit of pre season coaching with the Brumbies Union team. So why is it OK for Williams to play Union in Japan upto February and also have a boxing match lined up just a week or so before the start of the NRL season? Money Bill Williams is a disgrace and the NRL and the game should not welcome this scumbag back. He has no real interest at all and thinks he can do what he wants.

I agree, going to Union is not the issue, its how he did it. Not the sort of man you would want alongside you in the Trenches.

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The selfish scumbag Shouldnt be allowed to play for a many reasons. The way he walked out not just on his club but his teammates and fans after signing a 5 year deal and still hasnt apoligized or even admit he was wrong how he did it to his teammates. He has said he would rather stay in Union and has regrets etc. He has talked more about his boxing than about League! Great attitude. His Agent is Khoder who is not offically recognized by the NRL so who has been managing this agreement? The NRL has rightly stopped Danny Buderus from doing a bit of pre season coaching with the Brumbies Union team. So why is it OK for Williams to play Union in Japan upto February and also have a boxing match lined up just a week or so before the start of the NRL season? Money Bill Williams is a disgrace and the NRL and the game should not welcome this scumbag back. He has no real interest at all and thinks he can do what he wants.

NRL may have opened a can of worms with $BW, now Benji wants to do his own thing. http://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/234978-nrl-benji-seeking-move-to-japanese-rugby/

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The selfish scumbag Shouldnt be allowed to play for a many reasons. The way he walked out not just on his club but his teammates and fans after signing a 5 year deal and still hasnt apoligized or even admit he was wrong how he did it to his teammates. He has said he would rather stay in Union and has regrets etc. He has talked more about his boxing than about League! Great attitude. His Agent is Khoder who is not offically recognized by the NRL so who has been managing this agreement? The NRL has rightly stopped Danny Buderus from doing a bit of pre season coaching with the Brumbies Union team. So why is it OK for Williams to play Union in Japan upto February and also have a boxing match lined up just a week or so before the start of the NRL season? Money Bill Williams is a disgrace and the NRL and the game should not welcome this scumbag back. He has no real interest at all and thinks he can do what he wants.

I think this is a bit ott, the way you have described him you would think he had committed mass genocide. While i dont agree with the way sbw went about everything hes a professional athlete with a short window in which to make his living so hes doing all he can to maximise his earnings. It also brings rugby league more exposure which is a good thing. At the end of the day hes got himself to think about and put first. I personally cant wait to watch him next season.

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I think this is a bit ott, the way you have described him you would think he had committed mass genocide. While i dont agree with the way sbw went about everything hes a professional athlete with a short window in which to make his living so hes doing all he can to maximise his earnings. It also brings rugby league more exposure which is a good thing. At the end of the day hes got himself to think about and put first. I personally cant wait to watch him next season.

Peope doing whats best for them I have no problem with . The way Money Bill walked out the game and still not apoligized to his former temmates does. Sign a 5 year deal and then 1 year in walk out without even having the balls to tell your teammates let alone the club. Thats just disgraceful behaviour especially after he bagged Willy Mason just before going AWOL! The way he parades himself and is only interested in himself and not others. He is not a team player. Frankly if he wants to keep playing Union and Boxing up to February then he should just stick to the that. He pathetic claims trying to make out that he is doing somebody a favour playing in the NRL and openly saying he regrets saying he wanted to play League again and wishing he was staying in Union. Sorry but the NRL should have told him to get lost. No player is ever greater than a club or game. The game doesnt need Williams. He is a good player but not that exceptional. There are better players out there who look after themselves financially but dont act all selfish and have an ego.

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What will be interesting will be how he reacts to the inevitable attention as he gets back up to league fitness. Teams will just run and run at him, and he won't have 10 minutes watching scrums fall over to get his breath back.

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We allow drug cheats back to the game and no one seems to mind.

Yet someone goes to union and all hell breaks loose.

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We allow drug cheats back to the game and no one seems to mind.

Yet someone goes to union and all hell breaks loose.

This is still not the actual point. Mark Gasnier (for instance) went to union around the same time - there was disappointment, but hell didn't break loose, and he was a first-choice Australian international. Why the lack of uproar? He did it honestly. Everything was agreed with him, his agent and St George.

$BW sneaked off and behaved disgracefully throughout.

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We allow drug cheats back to the game and no one seems to mind.

Yet someone goes to union and all hell breaks loose.

Many players have gone to union. None have attracted this level of criticism or argument.

Why do you think this might be? (clue: its nothing to do with RU.)

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I see there are some real drama queens out in force on this thread.

Man leaves job for another job, returns to previous job after a while. That's all there is to it.

Get over it. Or get a life. One or t'other.

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Wilfully missing the point?

Or do you have a lot of us on 'ignore', so you can't see that the point that you are making is not the point we are making?

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Well known drama queen Hazem el-Masri thinks he shouldn't be allowed back. Strangely, its not the RU part that he objects to either.

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Wilfully missing the point?

Or do you have a lot of us on 'ignore', so you can't see that the point that you are making is not the point we are making?

Not missing the point at all. Its just that the point you're making is completely ridiculous. The man is a professional sportsman who plays whatever and wherever for the most amount of money on offer. That's life.

Now ask yourself this - who is the biggest fool in all this ? The man who will no doubt earn megabucks for playing a sport he seems not to be that bothered about, or the people who are prepared to pay him that money in the full knowledge of his history and attitude ? Its absolutely stupid to criticise Williams for it, he's been upfront about his priorities and if a club is still prepared to invest considerable time and money in him then that's hardly his fault.

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Not missing the point at all. Its just that the point you're making is completely ridiculous. The man is a professional sportsman who plays whatever and wherever for the most amount of money on offer. That's life.

Now ask yourself this - who is the biggest fool in all this ? The man who will no doubt earn megabucks for playing a sport he seems not to be that bothered about, or the people who are prepared to pay him that money in the full knowledge of his history and attitude ? Its absolutely stupid to criticise Williams for it, he's been upfront about his priorities and if a club is still prepared to invest considerable time and money in him then that's hardly his fault.

Well said.

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Well said.

What do you mean well said? You were claiming it was because he had played RU a few replies ago.

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Not missing the point at all. Its just that the point you're making is completely ridiculous. The man is a professional sportsman who plays whatever and wherever for the most amount of money on offer. That's life.

Now ask yourself this - who is the biggest fool in all this ? The man who will no doubt earn megabucks for playing a sport he seems not to be that bothered about, or the people who are prepared to pay him that money in the full knowledge of his history and attitude ? Its absolutely stupid to criticise Williams for it, he's been upfront about his priorities and if a club is still prepared to invest considerable time and money in him then that's hardly his fault.

But most objectors are saying that's exactly what's wrong: the fact the NRL have ok'd the move, not the fact that he has taken up the offer.

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Can someone dig out Sonny Bill's international record in rugby league? Did he ever win a game? And he can't be arsed with the World Cup? Horrible git.

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I wonder what he has got against RL?he was brought up with the game wasn't he?

He's perfectly entitled to prefer RU or boxing. That's not the issue.

It's whether the NRL bods should have pandered to his demands or said 'this is how it is, take it or leave it'. Personally I'd hold my breath until he said RL was the bestest ever.

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He's perfectly entitled to prefer RU or boxing. That's not the issue.

It's whether the NRL bods should have pandered to his demands or said 'this is how it is, take it or leave it'. Personally I'd hold my breath until he said RL was the bestest ever.

of course he is yes,but I have not heard or read his interview,but it looks like he has deliberately used it to dis RL

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I'm not sure what people expect of Money Bill. Surely he'd be a hypocrite if he proclaimed his love for RL after the way he left last time? I'm not a fan of him as a person, but at least he's honest about his motives, it's the Roosters who are dumb in making the offer.

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Its absolutely stupid to criticise Williams for it, he's been upfront about his priorities and if a club is still prepared to invest considerable time and money in him then that's hardly his fault.

Yes the Doggies really knew he was going to walk out after 1 year after signing a 5 year deal! Williams wasnt upfront then was he? And the way he makes it sound a chore or doing everybody a favour coming back is a sleight on our game not on the club that signed him. And the rubbish Williams spouted about Willy Mason after he left the doggies is unreal when you look at Williams attitude and how he did things.http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/sonny-bill-v-willie-mason/story-e6frexp9-1111115807217 He claims he lost all respect for Mason. Well many people lost all respect for Williams with all that he said and then walked out not even telling his teammates or the club.

Roosters are badly run and make stupid decisions. No wonder they are desperate to sign a mercenary. But the NRL have the right to veto a contract or player if it is not in order. The Williams deal has all been done under the table and on handshakes. His Manager is not accepted by the NRL as he hasnt agreed to certain conditions. And the rubbish that Williams said that a handshake should be honoured. Well so should a contract you have signed. To ###### off without telling anybody including your closest teammates is not on. Whether the Doggies had him on a good or poor deal he agreed to it and signed. To then get upset and walkout is not on. A sports carreer is not long but its something that can bring many other benefits and one which Williams has benefiited from among many others. The way he acts and talks is a person who really doesnt want to be in League and I hope he is a massive failure just for that. If your hearts not in it be honest and say so. Dont just come back and go on about honouring a handshake agreement when you have broken written contracts in the past. I dont care if he wanted to play Union or if he wants to come back. Thats not the issue I have. The issue is what I have stated and how he just feels that the game and others should accept him and that he can do what he wants when he wants.

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