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The difficulty of getting overseas stars

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Good. Perhaps we'll start developing our own players and if the best of our best now choose to play in the NRL that can only help our international sides.

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Whilst I agree this is a great time to focus on junior development throughout the club structure (I don't just mean the SL clubs), I do hope we don't just become a feeder league for the NRL and Union.

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Whilst I agree this is a great time to focus on junior development throughout the club structure (I don't just mean the SL clubs),

Note McDermott does not advocate signing people for the sake of it.

Develop the game through the schools and amateur junior structure first......

Without that there's nobody to sign.

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Good. Perhaps we'll start developing our own players and if the best of our best now choose to play in the NRL that can only help our international sides.

Losing ESL's best players to NRL is not good for RL in Europe and in some ways would have a detrimental effect on International squads.

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The current strength of the Australian dollar doesn't help, either. Or the weakness of the Great British Pound - whichever way you look at it ...

The dollar was worth about nine bob last time I went - now it's more like 12/6. :dry:

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This was a predictable development but still they want to cut their developmental teams and farm the rest out to the feeder clubs. Go figure.

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instead of blowing money on aussies i'd use some of it to send the best academy talent to australia for a season...invest in our talent!

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instead of blowing money on aussies i'd use some of it to send the best academy talent to australia for a season...invest in our talent!

The only problem in that is what happens if they don't come back?

I'd rather we invested in our youth system enough that it was a similar standard to the TC over there.

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Losing ESL's best players to NRL is not good for RL in Europe and in some ways would have a detrimental effect on International squads.

If we have plenty of internationals with the players in the NRL on show I don't think it'll be a problem and will only help our game.

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If we have plenty of internationals with the players in the NRL on show I don't think it'll be a problem and will only help our game.

The problem comes about if SL is seen as a feeder league for the NRL and/or Union. That significantly devalues our competition and will lead to us getting less money from our sponsors etc. Also it might not be that great for England as a team either as the Aussies tend to like the best playing for them. Usually we've seen them mostly taking kiwi's or tongans etc but you can bet they'd start looking to poach our players if they were over there in enough numbers.

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a true englishman would never play for australia

If they were good enough and wanted to try their hand at SOO as well... suspect they might (I hear they are paid very well for representative honours in Aus)

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If I have understood correctly, he's looking for a centre to replace Ablett but says Ablett has been playing brilliantly in the centres and it would require a top drawer NRL player to replace Ablett. In other words, recruiting a centre isn't really a priority so this is a non-story?

Other than getting in cover for Ablett should he get injured, can't he just keep Ablett in the centre and maybe look for another prop or second rower, positions I understand Leeds to be in greater need of covering?

If it's really that bad, and they need to spend more, surely he needs to get Gary H a longer pair of arms that reach all that loose coin in the bottom of his pockets. I'm sure there's plenty in there to spend.

Anyhow, Darren Lockyer seems to think it a good thing the journeymen are no longer coming over from the NRL as he thinks there is plenty of talent coming thru over here, it just needs game time at the top level.

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And all this comes at a time when the RFL overhaul the scholarship and Academy system, effectively limiting the chances of developing young players in our own competition.

Bearing in mind, all the changes have been approved by SL clubs.

Great timing.

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Losing ESL's best players to NRL is not good for RL in Europe and in some ways would have a detrimental effect on International squads.

I disagree, I think it is really positive that the NRL are looking more actively at the SL for our talent. If this means that our best players go and try their hand over there then great but if someone says that it devalues the SL then maybe we should do something about that instead.

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have the RFL and Super League Europe chip in together to buy the NRL's Titans. Fill that team with British talent (French as well if needs be) both established and younger players for experience. Keep players there for a season and then rotate them back to SLE clubs. If a player is good enough and wishes to remain in the NRL or another NRL club wants them then just keep them at the Titans rather than them returning to Super League. If the RFU comes sniffing around English talent then send 'em off to the Titans with a better deal.To sweeten the deal for the NRL, sell the rights to all Titans games to Sky, or whoever,for considerably more than whatever peanuts they've had from Premier Sports

Crackpot idea? Maybe! Still, I bet the England team would become a greater force

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Good. Perhaps we'll start developing our own players and if the best of our best now choose to play in the NRL that can only help our international sides.

100% agree

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Why would titans fans watch an essentially european side? I'd imagine the crowds would decrease. They're also in huge debt, I'm not sure if its quite 25m although ill happily be corrected.

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I chose the Titans as they seem to be up s creek. Any other team would do. As for why would Titans fans watch a foreign team - doesnt stop an awful lot of Premier League fans doing similar - plus I guess ticket revenue would come behind tv revenue anyway. Plus over 1M of the population of Australia was born in the UK, with plenty more with British parents - maybe a few thousand of them would turn up to offset any pommyhaters who decided to stop going.

edit - another idea would be to buy a stake in a nrl club but not take it over outright. Say, buy Crowe's stake in South Sydney - you wouldnt have a full English side (and wouldnt lose any home fans), it'd be a watered down version of 'Plan A' but would still work towards the same aims of improving the international side and keeping hold of better players.

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Seems Leeds are now after signing Willie Tonga from Parramatta.

This guy won't come cheap and whilst he is undoubtedly a good player (when fit) I'd still rather see SL clubs put more investment into junior development rather than leading the charge to get rid of the 15's and 20's.

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Seems Leeds are now after signing Willie Tonga from Parramatta.

This guy won't come cheap and whilst he is undoubtedly a good player (when fit) I'd still rather see SL clubs put more investment into junior development rather than leading the charge to get rid of the 15's and 20's.

Quote from the Yorkshire Evening Post.

There is speculation that Parramatta Eels may be willing to release Tonga, but Hetherington said: “his name has cropped up, but we will not be pursuing him.”

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