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How pleased are you with your national newspaper?

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think you will find class war no longer print a paper

It's the american class war based in chicago which I get sent along with catholic worker.

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Print: The Independent's little sibling, i. Primarily a paper that is solely for news, with a single opinion column. All that said, I don't buy it that often.

Online: The BBC, I also use Twitter to follow Russia Today, Al Jazeera and CNN.

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...are souls....

sweary filter failure? :)

.There is no such thing as an independent coffee shop. They are all out to make a living and pay as little tax as possible.

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sweary filter failure? :)

.There is no such thing as an independent coffee shop. They are all out to make a living and pay as little tax as possible.

:D

There are a few independent (i.e. non-chain) coffee shops between the station and work. I have tried coffee from all of them and it's either too expensive, not as good, or both.

They all seem to have only a handful of employees as well. Pret has loads and has a little charity for the homeless you can give your change to - the evil bastards.

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With the Daily Express repeating the same tired stories as well as people struggling financially and strong competition from online, I do wonder if any newspaper will go under in the future? The Dandy comic is going online in order to compete in the current market place.

As far as newspapers are concerned, I'm not too bothered about the political leaning, more about a good overhaul read. Having said that, my good wife still wants to go back to buying the Daily Express due to the crosswords! :rolleyes: I do enjoy my monthly Lancashire Magazine, especially to see what new walks I can go on. It is very good value for money, especially if you subscribe for a full year - and which includes package and postage for £10 (my last cost).

TBH I don't understand the Express and this obsession with cold winters. Last year just before the warmest October day on record they were predicting minus 20 degrees "within days." Not only did we have the warmest October for years, we had the mildest winter for some time. Why do they do it? I noticed the day of the Corby bye electiion result their front page had another threat of the coldest winter for 100 years. Is it a standby for when what should be their lead story is something they don't want to print?

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Me neither. Their forecasts are always wrong anyway! see here These longer range forecasts for December and January have not come from the Met Office and a look at our current 30 day forecast provides perhaps a more measured assessment of our weather prospects to the middle of December:

and here Its website carried photos of young women with, er, prominent credentials, who were named as the company's forecasters, and who appeared in news reports issuing its predictions. But a picture search revealed that these were remarkably busy people. One of them was also employed, under a variety of other names, as a mail order bride, a hot Russian date and a hot Ukrainian date. Another offered her services as an egg donor, a hot date, a sublet property broker in Sweden, a lawyer, an expert on snoring, eyebrow threading, safe sex, green cleaning products, spanking and air purification

oh Leveson, where are you?

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TBH I don't understand the Express and this obsession with cold winters. Last year just before the warmest October day on record they were predicting minus 20 degrees "within days." Not only did we have the warmest October for years, we had the mildest winter for some time. Why do they do it? I noticed the day of the Corby bye electiion result their front page had another threat of the coldest winter for 100 years. Is it a standby for when what should be their lead story is something they don't want to print?

The Express rarely has news on their front page.

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It's the american class war based in chicago which I get sent along with catholic worker.

ah right do they have any connection to the I.W.W otherwise know as the wobblies

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TBH I don't understand the Express and this obsession with cold winters. Last year just before the warmest October day on record they were predicting minus 20 degrees "within days." Not only did we have the warmest October for years, we had the mildest winter for some time. Why do they do it? I noticed the day of the Corby bye electiion result their front page had another threat of the coldest winter for 100 years. Is it a standby for when what should be their lead story is something they don't want to print?

I complained earlier this year over the fact that the Daily Express had covered the weather as its front page headline no less that five times in just over a week. Like I said, pensions, health issues and EU dominate the front page, even to covering such as arthritis several times over a couple of weeks. Perhaps it's less costly, but surly over the top for those who buy the newspaper.

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ah right do they have any connection to the I.W.W otherwise know as the wobblies

No, other than a broad agreement that they are libertarian left

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I've gotten out of the habit of buying a newspaper daily. Can't remember the last time I bought one to be honest?

I now stick to BBC and Channel 4 news on TV and twitter (various journos and BBC, Sky News breaking news, etc).

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Daily Express Monday: Insurance premiums to go up due to the severe floods.

Daily Express Friday: We are in for one of the coldest winters for some years.

I rest my case! :rolleyes:

PS. The newspaper did take time out in between to cover the royal pregnancy.

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I occasionally buy a paper but I read the print version of The Times in Cafe Nero before work each morning, which is of course very sophisticated of me. The Times did cracking coverage of both the Olympics and Paralympics and I bought a copy a day during those weeks of British sporting excellence. I will buy a Times or a Telegraph now and again. Online I will read both the Telegraph and the Guardian as I like to find out what both sides are saying, although my contact with the Guardian in any form is primarily thanks to Andy Wilson's RL blogs. Other than that I watch Sky and BBC news whenever I want to feel depressed.

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When I was living in London I used to buy the Guardian 3/5 days as my commute meant I was able to have time to read, and at work too during breaks, or inbetween anaesthetics, if I am even seen now even thinking about looking at a newspaper I will probably be hauled up in front of my idiot managers. So, I now buy 1 Guardian a month, when my other half is working a Saturday or Sunday, then I have something stimulating while my 4 year old watches Cbeebies.

I originally started to buy the Guardian for it's centre left politics.

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How pleased am I with my national newspaper? Well, for a start I don't have a national newspaper. I haven't bought one regularly since I used to commute to Manchester, when I bought the Guardian, Independent, occasionally the Times, very rarely the Telegraph. On Sundays I used to buy Scotland on Sunday (the newsagent got one copy a week) and that is where I saw the job advert that took me to Perth.

When in Scotland my national became either the Scotsman or the Herald.

Nowadays I just don't bother. I don't know whether the standard of journalism has plummeted, the fact that we can get much more information elsewhere, or whether I am a lot more critical these days, but I just find that the quality of even the serious newspapers doesn't make them fit to be used as chip wrapping.

What I tend to do for news these days is have a quick look on BBC News website before setting off work to see what is being reported. I also do search for news stories on things that interest or affect me. I then listen to the news programme on Radio Scotland (more relevant for me than the Radio 4 offering - Farming Today) as I drive to work.

When I get home I check out a number of web-based news sources, mainly to get a more rounded view of the main news stories. All journalists misinform, either because of political bias, world-view, the views of their proprietors, the views of the market they are aiming for and the desire to sensationalise to achieve greater

sales. By checking newspaper reports against other, often independent, news sources, reading the views and comments of individuals and groups, and using my own judgement, I hope to obtain some sort of truth.

We all know that all newspapers take a particular political stance, and write their stories based upon their standpoint. You take that into account when you read them. What does get me is when they get things wrong, either as a result of incompetence or willingness to skew a debate. What is worse, if anything, is repeating the mistakes of others by just copying 'facts' from another publication or source without any investigation. One incident of this was from this years local elections in Scotland; the BBC made a mistake in the way they calculated and reported the results, yet the same figures appeared in many of the 'quality' newspapers. What is the point?

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