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Salford Trouble/Salford Takeover

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"Struggling Salford Reds are poised to receive a bailout of up to £1.5m to secure a takeover of the club by supporters".

"Salford City Council chiefs hope to pledge a loan facility of up to £750,000 Peel Holdings – who are joint owners of the Salford City Stadium along with the council – are set to put up the rest of the cash"

"The resulting rescue plan – set to go before Salford council's cabinet next Tuesday – is being dubbed a ‘fresh start’ by insiders"

Sadly this isn't rich Peel Holdings taking the club over and pledging to turn them into a competitive outfit. Red Willow got that spot on so well done you.

It would be a fresh start, but to start doing what - continuing to struggle for players, struggle for wins and struggle for fans?

Anyone know who these "supporters" are who are to take the club over, more to the point do they have money? and are they expected to pay the £1,5M back in time??

Press releases tend to help one to ask questions rather than answer them.

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so the owe the salford council upwards of £2.25m......christ!

And they are to loan you players and take spectators from the oldham area/ it might be the other way around.

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To be honest lads the MEN has been batting around all sorts of stuff in the last 3 months! It has not been very accurate. We have had all sorts of articles and interviews with people outside the club. But absolutley nothing from Peel / Salford Reds and just a bit of political speak from the Council.

Better wait to see what is officially announced to get the full picture. It is agony for us Reds fans, but there is nothing but rumours so far ...

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I think you will find that the MEN article is wrong. The truth lies elsewhere. It has been very bad PR from Salford but their future is secure.

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I hope RJ is correct.

It will be a good day for Salford and us all when they do confirm the new details securing the club's future.

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I think you will find that the MEN article is wrong. The truth lies elsewhere.

What truth?? where??

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I have to say that Rugby League coverage in the M.E.N. is about as accurate as it is in the South China Daily

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I thought from the link address that it was a £15 million prize fund!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: - that would be something!!

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We seem to lurch from one PR disaster to another, no season tickets, no new signings, players leaving.

Getting more and more disillusioned by the day.

Salford don't have the fan base to run the club by a supporters trust. The council shouldn't spend money on someone else's business when they are £4 in the red.

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It is not for me to say at this stage. You will find, however, that it is true.

I hope you are right RJ but I spoke to someone v high up in the club and certainly the Board will be stepping down and I dont blame them. I had hoped that somebody at Peel (not the Company) would have been the White Knight but it doesnt seem to be the case.

I agree with Red Willow - Supporters Trust and Council run are non starters.

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Salford are a joke sadly who dont deserve to be in SL. With clubs like Salford, London, Castleford etc there is a strong case for less clubs in SL OR be replaced IF Championship clubs are meeting the minimum standards set out. It cant be that hard to communicate to fans and not waste so much money surely? From the Salford fan I know, he wished the club would get out of SL and rebuild in the Championship even if it takes many years. He said they will never get out of this situation whilst in SL and each year gets worse. I dont know if the Salford fans on here agree with that though.

They are a disaster case that seemingly cant do anything right- not even do the basics in running a club. Even IF a investor is found and decides to inject cash it is just papering over the cracks. The club needs to get rid of many people especially on the business and communication side of things and start living within its means and sort themselves out before its too late. The talk of an investor has been going for months now and it must be a worry that nothing is seemingly happening. Salford cant even bring in players. The new season must be a worry as they have let some quality go and brought in no real experience or quality to replace whats gone. The worry for Salford and the game is the longer talks are ongoing the bigger the problems Salford have. Even if somebody invests money most of that will just go to sort out old debts and not too much will be used to push Salford forward both on and off the field. And if the old people are still involved will anything really change?

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Salford are a joke sadly who dont deserve to be in SL.

So were Oldham, so where Halifax, Leigh, Workington, Sheffield. I don't believe you support the promotion of aforementioned pathetic clubs (some if not all) back into SL.

The M.E.N. report was more than likely written/encouraged or assisted by Swanny.

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So were Oldham, so where Halifax, Leigh, Workington, Sheffield. I don't believe you support the promotion of aforementioned pathetic clubs (some if not all) back into SL.

The M.E.N. report was more than likely written/encouraged or assisted by Swanny.

And thank you for proving my point that it takes years to sort out. And most them clubs have dropped out of SL and been rebuilt and ran in a better way now than in SL. Whether them clubs are ready for SL is open to question. Likely not but then maybe its best not being in Super League running up big debts when you can make small profits and have success in the championship. SL is a utopia that is ruining clubs. But clowns like you think its so good for the game as a whole that SL is encouraging clubs to waste money. SL is where loads of money from the RFL has been thrown in to help poorly managed clubs. That money could have been better spent on development offficers and the like. I dont personally see how thats so good for the whole game. But keep dreaming away and twisting things to fit your own opinion

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Salford are a joke sadly who dont deserve to be in SL. With clubs like Salford, London, Castleford etc there is a strong case for less clubs in SL OR be replaced IF Championship clubs are meeting the minimum standards set out.

The minimum standards??

Which ones? Those applied to SL clubs who need a business plan to turn over £4,000,000 plus a year and 8,000 to 10,000 crowds to fund it or the highly relaxed standards applied to "one championship club will be guaranteed a place subject to minimum standards" of a turnover of at least £1,000,000 (wow!) and 2,500 crowds (breathtaking).

What you miss is your championship darlings currently don't even meet the latter standards, but Castleford, Salford and even London beat them by a mile.

You also raise the silly old chestnut of telling us a club who is not under pressure to compete in the lower division making a few grand on a small turnover is "well managed" and those badly stretched to compete, and pushed to compete against the biggest clubs in Britain are "badly managed".

That is so simplistic it does you no favours.

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1. And thank you for proving my point that it takes years to sort out. And most them (championship) clubs have dropped out of SL and been rebuilt and ran in a better way now than in SL.

2. Whether them clubs are ready for SL is open to question.

3. SL is a utopia that is ruining clubs. But clowns like you think its so good for the game as a whole that SL is encouraging clubs to waste money. SL is where loads of money from the RFL has been thrown in to help poorly managed clubs. That money could have been better spent on development offficers and the like. I dont personally see how thats so good for the whole game. But keep dreaming away and twisting things to fit your own opinion

1. Oh my! You have to be joking? Oldham have re-built? Workington have re-built?

This is another old chestnut that you can re-build in the Championship, a league in which crowds actually go nowhere and stay the same as they have always been for years, unless you do well in the league which pulls a few hundred more in. A league in which you feed of the Superleague scraps when it comes to players and if you develop your own you get the lads who couldn't make SL academy. Anyone who slips the net gets picked up by SL. A league in which rich men show no interest in being in.

Is the championship really somewhere where you can build a playing squad build a crowd and build up a large pot of money?

You accuse Padge of "twisting things" but to reason that the Championship is a great place to re-build for Superleague is strangling logic never mind twisting it?

2. You now prove my point. 15 & 16 years on and Oldham and Workington are "not ready". Halifax crashed out 10 years ago.

3. SL has attracted £250,000,000 into the game in SKY contracts and investments from rich businessmen, that's a quarter of a Billion pounds isn't it? I'm not surprised the RFL bend over backwards to shore SL up. I don't see how that's "bad" for the game.

I challenge you and all the other posters on here condemning Superleague to set out a vision for the games future success without this evil thing called SKY that so consumes the game by it's demands?

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Yet another topic derailed and covering the same ground as the Oldham/Salford thread. The people involved are entrenched in their views and yet have the same debate. I admire your patience guys.

The loan from the council is anything but a done deal with the Tory Karen Garrido saying she will write to the District Auditor and that it is morally wrong.

And so the drama continues.

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Yet another topic derailed and covering the same ground as the Oldham/Salford thread.

Why not? it's about Salfords troubles which naturally lead on to how they have failed to compete in Superleague and what should be done about it.

I'd love to dicuss Salford but RJW said that we were all barking up the wrong tree and must wait until the facts come out, so that pretty much suspended that part of the thread.

If you don't allow threads to develop and keep the content strictly narrow then you'll just end up with three times as many threads.

How do you get on at dinner parties if nobody can develop the conversation, or take an interesting tangent?

Nowt wrong with a conversation going off in another direction - you can always pull it back on track by telling us what RJW will not reveal :lol:

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