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Wakefield get planning permission

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Rather than criticise the hard work of so many connected with this redevelopment (really do hope it becomes reality) maybe you should try to persuade your dual-code club to develop some decent facilities of their own,so improving the lot of the paying fans and the local residents whose lives are so blighted on those matchdays when big clubs fromm Lancs. come visiting.

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Isn't RL all about expansion?

No, it is all about sport.

Wakefield have made what they think is the best decision for their club, why should they consider an "expansion" angle? Especially when we are talking about the difference of a handful of miles.

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Answer to some questions

1, Planning Application for a commercial site - Only granted due to the pressure of a Stadium being built - without the stadium the whole industrial/commercial plan would of been rejected. A small price for the developer!

2, This will improve the roads?- With the increase of traffic to surroundinhg areas,don't see how this is an improvement

3, Jobs being created - Is this for the people of Wakefield to benefit from? With it being almost in another city, there is nothing to guaruntee the majority of jobs will go to the people of Wakefield.

4, Rugby League is a winner- Can't see how this is, it's decreasing the rugby league stronghold and condensing it to a smaller area. If it was a improvement to rugby league, then moving to a site on the M1 would of been the most beneficial to RL, as this is the motorway that links the North to the South.

Are you for real or just a torn twisted and bitter Leeds resident, look after your own City we'll look after ours thanks, check the map Newmarket is in Wakefield District, there has to be a boundry somewhere.

We are sick and tired of Leeds telling us what and what not to do this is a revival for Wakefield and obviously you dont like it you dont have to come when its done, can you explain why Leeds is trying to sell the greenbelt at the otherside of the motorway oh I remember in order that jobs can be created for that East Leeds white elephant motorway junction.

In the economy as it is who objected to this development bringing in over 2000 jobs at the same time announcing Leeds Council would be losing 600, oh yes was it councillor Wakefield? where is his council ward?

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Council leader Keith Wakefield is the only reason why LCC objected. His ward is Methley. Tax payers money was wasted on his self preservation.

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Answer to some questions

1, Planning Application for a commercial site - Only granted due to the pressure of a Stadium being built - without the stadium the whole industrial/commercial plan would of been rejected. A small price for the developer!

2, This will improve the roads?- With the increase of traffic to surroundinhg areas,don't see how this is an improvement

3, Jobs being created - Is this for the people of Wakefield to benefit from? With it being almost in another city, there is nothing to guaruntee the majority of jobs will go to the people of Wakefield.

4, Rugby League is a winner- Can't see how this is, it's decreasing the rugby league stronghold and condensing it to a smaller area. If it was a improvement to rugby league, then moving to a site on the M1 would of been the most beneficial to RL, as this is the motorway that links the North to the South.

That is such an extremely poorly informed bunch of nonsense it's hard to know where to start but here goes:

1. Within the new LDF for Wakefield the Council are legally bound to provide a site suitable for 90 odd hectares of B8 warehousing, after much deliberation and legal considerations Newmarket was identified as THE ONLY suitable site. So you're wrong to suggest that without the sports facilities this wouldn't have been allowed. Has the inclusion of sports facilities helped this developer to navigate the process, has the path of resistance been softened by the developers willingness to put £Millions back into the districts education &sports facilities that foster healthy lifestyles, of course it has and the SoS report makes it clear that the sports facilities must be delivered hence the 106 agreement.

2. As explained, the surrounding roads will be hugely improved with one particular junction that is currently an accident lack spot being completely altered to make it safe.

3. Does it matter who gets the jobs? There will be up to 2,500 jobs created for someone, how could that be a bad thing?

4. You clearly have zero understanding of how modern day elite sport operates!

Anyway, back to your real agenda, what is it?

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What does the 106 actually say.

A 106 only usually kicks in when development starts not when permission is granted, usually isn't planning permission valid for 3 years, which means development could start in December 2015, then the 106 would kick in. It could easily be challenged with the planning ombudsman as unfair if having started in December 2015 they were expected to deliver in 3 weeks.

What does the 106 actually say.

A 106 only usually kicks in when development starts not when permission is granted, usually isn't planning permission valid for 3 years, which means development could start in December 2015, then the 106 would kick in. It could easily be challenged with the planning ombudsman as unfair if having started in December 2015 they were expected to deliver in 3 weeks.

Depends if the 106 agreement is a pre-commencement condition to be discharged.

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Facts are, the sight was Green Belt when Wakefield council gained it,but now its not green belt and its a coincidence it is going to be built on. The stadium is an excuse for the developer to be granted to build on it. Would he of been so keen to build on it, if it was the stadium only?.

If you are Wakefield trinity wildcats and are proud to be wakefield, then why do they wish to move to the very edge of Wakefield, (Once not part of Wakefield). They have the whole of Wakefield to move to, but seem to want to move as far from it as possible, closer to the other RL areas.

But that is where the new stadium is situated and it IS in Wakefield

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Depends if the 106 agreement is a pre-commencement condition to be discharged.

You need to have the full s106 agreement to fully understand when it kicks in. Until a few years ago they were sorted out at the end of a development, nowadays they usually become due when the first spade hits the ground

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But that is where the new stadium is situated and it IS in Wakefield

Indeed. It is a bit odd to worry about whether the site has always been in Wakey or not. It is now.

Similarly Headingley probably hasn't always been part of Leeds (if you go back far enough) but it will have been when the stadium was built.

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You need to have the full s106 agreement to fully understand when it kicks in. Until a few years ago they were sorted out at the end of a development, nowadays they usually become due when the first spade hits the ground

That was my understanding, so that's why I asked the questions.

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Indeed. It is a bit odd to worry about whether the site has always been in Wakey or not. It is now.

Similarly Headingley probably hasn't always been part of Leeds (if you go back far enough) but it will have been when the stadium was built.

I'm sure when Headingley was not part of Leeds it was before the sport of rugby was created

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I'm sure when Headingley was not part of Leeds it was before the sport of rugby was created

Rugby came to Leeds at Woodhouse Moor. Headingley was just up the road.

Leeds St.Johns were based in the centre of Leeds but had to go a short distance up the valley to Cardigan field to play

Headingley was equally just up the road.

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Rugby came to Leeds at Woodhouse Moor. Headingley was just up the road.

Leeds St.Johns were based in the centre of Leeds but had to go a short distance up the valley to Cardigan field to play

Headingley was equally just up the road.

Correct.I think they had there first meeting of players interested on Woodhouse moor about 6.30 AM before work

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FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATES OFFICIAL REPORT

Stadium:

• 12,000 capacity with 7,000 seats and 5,000 standing

• 17 boxes

• Restaurant for 400

• 800 space car park with potential for park and ride facility • 28 coach parking spaces

• 644 cycle parking spaces

• 250 motor cycle parking spaces

• West stand with a seated capacity for 3,500 covered spectators,

• East stand with a seated capacity for 3,500 covered spectators

• North stand with a standing capacity of 2,500 covered spectators

• South stand with a standing capacity of 2,500 covered spectators

1.14 The West stand would accommodate hospitality accommodation areas for use on match days and would be used for corporate and private use on non match days. The West stand would also incorporate club administration and office areas, and players and officials' facilities. The height of the West stand would be approximately 14.5m at the rear and 17.6m at pitch side.

1.15 The 3 other single tier stands, of similar height on the North, South and East sides of the stadium would also provide general spectator seating and standing terraces, together with a circulation concourse, toilet and refreshment facilities and first aid facilities. All standing terrace areas would have the potential of being converted to seating areas in the future. Disabled car parking would be provided within 50m of the designated entrance

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Also from the report:

Description of the land:

The application site is a combination of arable farming defined by hedgerows and hedgerow trees and former colliery including man made landform; naturally regenerated rough grassland and plantation woodland. The former colliery land (over 28 hectares) has been remediated but contains weeds, shales, stones and areas of bare ground; in places tipping is evident. Landscape features such as watercourses, woodland, hedgerows and trees are frequent and within the wider landscape integrate the man made landform with the surrounding wooded farmland. The M62 is within a cutting along part of its route but where it comes out of the cutting is a prominent and urbanising feature within the landscape. The site is on rising land within a broad river valley. A high voltage overhead power line runs east – west across the site.

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Also from the report:

Description of the land:

The application site is a combination of arable farming defined by hedgerows and hedgerow trees and former colliery including man made landform; naturally regenerated rough grassland and plantation woodland. The former colliery land (over 28 hectares) has been remediated but contains weeds, shales, stones and areas of bare ground; in places tipping is evident. Landscape features such as watercourses, woodland, hedgerows and trees are frequent and within the wider landscape integrate the man made landform with the surrounding wooded farmland. The M62 is within a cutting along part of its route but where it comes out of the cutting is a prominent and urbanising feature within the landscape. The site is on rising land within a broad river valley. A high voltage overhead power line runs east – west across the site.

That's spot on because I went to the site early this year.

You can't grow anything on it and the grass is unsuitable for grazing.

The colliery has been knocked down, but the land is still poor and still contains concrete rafts and train lines in part.

Green belt it is not in any way.

It will be a wonderful facility to benefit the majority......

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