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Honor James

Statement from RFL Chief Executive Nigel Wood

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Yeah the RFL even forced Omar Khan to buy the Bulls. He didn't want to but they made him just to show how much they hate certain clubs. True story.

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Nice attitude, very similar to the RFLs.

In the response to your 2nd question, you obviousley know very little about my clubs current state.

Okay then, what about Sheffield then? How would they NOT go Bankrupt? Where would there hundreds of thousands to survive come from?...

What was the revenue of Fleetwood Town & York City in 2011 compared to Charton Athletic & Sheffield Wednesday?...

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New Year - same negative ###### from the usual suspects.

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Mate spent last the 30 years as a spectaor, player and coach...stiil ,despite seeing my own pro team screwed over royaly time an time again , believing in the spirit of 1895 and the great game and folks we have involved in it , having stuck with it ...

My Final straw ....seeing players I developed and brought through the junior ranks , who have given their last 10 plus years into the dream of being professional players having that effort ignored by a ruling body who is happy to cast young players aside with out compassion or compunction and then claim we dont have the talent base to take on the Aussie's ....

Wood and the RFL are a joke ...nuff said

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We all know what a huge balls-up it was giving Celtic Crusaders a Licence, as they were far far from ready,

We all don't. When the money was there they went well.

Samuels business took a dip just like Richardsons and Wilkinsons.

Let's not be prejudice now Dave.....

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I thought the RFL paid the Bradford players wages for half a season

To be fair they also bought the lease on the ground something I am not aware of them doing for any other club

Did they also put a staff member in free of charge (not sure on this one)

well they have done similar things regarding leases but people dont like to talk about it as it doesnt suit.

The last I heard Sky money has been withheld for next year so I dont believe the RFL invested much if anything, and Jon Wilkinson suggested as much at the forum a couple of weeks back.

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Mate spent last the 30 years as a spectaor, player and coach...stiil ,despite seeing my own pro team screwed over royaly time an time again , believing in the spirit of 1895 and the great game and folks we have involved in it , having stuck with it ...

My Final straw ....seeing players I developed and brought through the junior ranks , who have given their last 10 plus years into the dream of being professional players having that effort ignored by a ruling body who is happy to cast young players aside with out compassion or compunction and then claim we dont have the talent base to take on the Aussie's ....

Wood and the RFL are a joke ...nuff said

Bloody hell rach. Even you???

My spewings are one thing. I know just how much you have put into the game - for years!!!

For you to voice your angst like this is something else!

Happy new year btw. See you at CP!

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Salford, an average super league club who don't win trophies so guess what the support from red hall is deafeningly silent!!!

Why do they need Red Hall support? The prospective buyers are currently negotiating to improve the stadium deal for the club?

What do you want the RFL to do - make the coffee and teas at the meeting?

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Every professional rugby league club in the country needs the same rights not just the chosen few..........

So should the RFL dock SKY money off Salford like they did Bradford then?

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So should the RFL dock SKY money off Salford like they did Bradford then?

Maybe that needs to be decided if/when Salford go into admin? ATM there is no reason to stop Salfords Sky monies.

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Maybe that needs to be decided if/when Salford go into admin? ATM there is no reason to stop Salfords Sky monies.

Not even to satisfy Viking Warriors lust for Salford to be treated the same as Bradford? :(

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What was the point in Blackpool being in the PL? For the experience? Fair enough but why enter a division you have absolutely zero chance of winning without spending approx £1Billion?

I can understand the 'thrill of the ride' angle but effectively every club apart from 3 or 4 have been prevented from winning the PL by money....yet this is a model that RL should copy?

The point of Blackpool being promoted is that they deserved it and I bet that there supporters had one hell of a time in that one season. By taking on and beating some of the best clubs in the land during that one season will give those supporters memories that will last a lifetime. The best thing as well is that they did it with there own club, they did not jump ship to watch their larger rivals in the north west. They stuck with their club through thick and thin. Yes they came crashing back down to earth when they were relegated but they experienced all the highs and then the big low.

This is called sport, passion and loyalty. It's what makes some of us tick and what is currently denied to us in RL.

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The point of Blackpool being promoted is that they deserved it and I bet that there supporters had one hell of a time in that one season. By taking on and beating some of the best clubs in the land during that one season will give those supporters memories that will last a lifetime. The best thing as well is that they did it with there own club, they did not jump ship to watch their larger rivals in the north west. They stuck with their club through thick and thin. Yes they came crashing back down to earth when they were relegated but they experienced all the highs and then the big low.

This is called sport, passion and loyalty. It's what makes some of us tick and what is currently denied to us in RL.

I understand all that but its a pretty patronizing position to be in IMO. 'here you go lads, have a season or so in the top flight but as for winning it, don't even go there.

On top of this, RL is not football and must deal with its hand accordingly.

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Not even to satisfy Viking Warriors lust for Salford to be treated the same as Bradford? :(

Nope as they haven't gone into admin.

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Okay then, what about Sheffield then? How would they NOT go Bankrupt? Where would there hundreds of thousands to survive come from?...

What was the revenue of Fleetwood Town & York City in 2011 compared to Charton Athletic & Sheffield Wednesday?...

I would give Sheffield the choice of promotion or staying where they are. If they think that promotion would bankrupt the club then they could turn it down but at least they would be given a choice.

I have no idea on your 2nd point but obviousley Charlton and Wednesday would be more. If a club such as York City went through the Leagues and Charlton went the other way then there would be a good chance that York would have the biggest turnover depending on fan base growth through the success of promotion. The key word and chance of this happening being promotion.

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I understand all that but its a pretty patronizing position to be in IMO. 'here you go lads, have a season or so in the top flight but as for winning it, don't even go there.

On top of this, RL is not football and must deal with its hand accordingly.

That's your opinion and it differs to mine.

I wondered when some one was going to come up with the this is not football comment. What I find on this forum is that pro franchise members use football as an example when it suits their argument but then come up with the this is not football argument when it also suits them. For example on your post number 76 you back a comment up about the blue square supporters supporting England. I did not bring football into the argument happy Dave did on post 75. You can't have it both ways.

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i think wood, rimmer and co laid their cards firmly on the table during the bradford melt down. one quote i read was that "they have been world club champions" yet they stood by and watched the FIRST ever world club champions sliding to oblivion and they only thing they did was to deduct us 9 points. fast forward to 2011 and another club did go down the pan, RIP blackpool, and now we have salford, an average super league club who don't win trophies so guess what the support from red hall is deafeningly silent!!! every professional rugby league club in the country needs the same rights not just the chosen few..........

Great post

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My view too Ian I won't be watching any of the World Cup either.

Good for you, I'm also an athletics fan but I won't be watching the Athletics World Championships. I also like tennis but I won't be watching Wimbledon. Nor will I be watching the FA Cup Final even though I like football.

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The point is Ian, that lower league football fans, whose teams have absolutely zero chance of making the football league never mind the PL, turn out in big numbers to back their national side. Yet some RL fans actively boycott their national team because they follow lower teams?

And where have I said I am pro licensing? I'm undecided.

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i coach at junior level these days, i have some great lads in my team who are tremendous players to boot, i am sick and tired of contacting the local pro clubs to come and have look at these lads, one is so good he reminds me of a young version of vinty karalius. luckily he has been picked up by widnes there are many lads i see week in week out playing for various teams who may never get the step up to the top flight because of our pro clubs fascination with all things antipodean. it is about time the rfl dropped the quota for all non genuine eu players to 1 per team to improve the stock of young british (and french) players in our pro game.......

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The point is Ian, that lower league football fans, whose teams have absolutely zero chance of making the football league never mind the PL, turn out in big numbers to back their national side. Yet some RL fans actively boycott their national team because they follow lower teams?

And where have I said I am pro licensing? I'm undecided.

Sorry John I thought that you were pro franchising based on your comments.

I know what the point is but my point is that you either leave football out of the argumet completely or you use it to compare against. It's not fair to pick and choose.

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Sorry John I thought that you were pro franchising based on your comments.

I know what the point is but my point is that you either leave football out of the argumet completely or you use it to compare against. It's not fair to pick and choose.

Not picking and choosing mate, it's pretty straightforward.

The fan analogy is just a comparison between fans who both support lower teams and their respective attitudes to their national side.

The other one is financial and its relevant because they are on another planet financially and can pretty much do what they like, so saying 'club x can get promoted' is irrelevant as far as RL goes.

I can see plusses and minusses on both points, (licensing or p&r)

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Not picking and choosing mate, it's pretty straightforward.

The fan analogy is just a comparison between fans who both support lower teams and their respective attitudes to their national side.

The other one is financial and its relevant because they are on another planet financially and can pretty much do what they like, so saying 'club x can get promoted' is irrelevant as far as RL goes.

I can see plusses and minusses on both points, (licensing or p&r)

but I bet if franchising came into football you would see a different attitude by the lower league clubs to the national team.

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At the end of the day we have less than a handful of Championship clubs with aspirations to join SL. The rest have happily partnered with SL clubs and appear to be content with an existence of mediocrity, fair play to them if that's what they want. So how do we accommodate this small number of clubs which want to progress? That's what I'd like to see NW have on his agenda.

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i coach at junior level these days, i have some great lads in my team who are tremendous players to boot, i am sick and tired of contacting the local pro clubs to come and have look at these lads, one is so good he reminds me of a young version of vinty karalius. luckily he has been picked up by widnes there are many lads i see week in week out playing for various teams who may never get the step up to the top flight because of our pro clubs fascination with all things antipodean. it is about time the rfl dropped the quota for all non genuine eu players to 1 per team to improve the stock of young british (and french) players in our pro game.......

100% agree with this Viking. lowering the quota may also help to keep some clubs solvent too. Perhaps it could also lead to SL clubs taking junior development a bit more seriously.

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but I bet if franchising came into football you would see a different attitude by the lower league clubs to the national team.

You could be right but I'm not sure about that. I could imagine issues with club football but not for the national side. As it is, the England players have absolutely nothing in common with the average man do they, but it doesn't stop them supporting the national side.

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