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l'angelo mysterioso

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Been a Labour member for years and visited the US four times with no problems whatsoever.

Visited as in on holiday or visited as in worked there for a while?

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How could they possibly know that he was a Labour party member?

They probably asked MI5.

I would be astonished if they haven't got a file on me and many people I know.

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They probably asked MI5.

I would be astonished if they haven't got a file on me and many people I know.

I'd be astonished if they did. What makes you so important?

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I'd be astonished if they did. What makes you so important?

My political affiliation to an organisation that MI5 have always distrusted.

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My political affiliation to an organisation that MI5 have always distrusted.

Mere membership of the Labour party - hardly.

If you had been an MP then I could believe it.

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Mere membership of the Labour party - hardly.

If you had been an MP then I could believe it.

Don't be so naive.

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Don't be so naive.

Hardly. MI5 aren't the Stasi, they don't have the resources to have a file on every Labour member.

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Hardly. MI5 aren't the Stasi, they don't have the resources to have a file on every Labour member.

bet they do

and just about everyone else for that matter

they don't actually have to 'have a file': this computer malarkey...its the next big thing

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They probably asked MI5.

I would be astonished if they haven't got a file on me and many people I know.

I'd be stunned if MI5 didn't have files of some kind on pretty much everyone.

It wouldn't be that hard to manage. The NHS can do it after all.

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Moreover, some years ago (depressingly 30) when I was employed by the Ministry of Defence I was informed that membership of the Labour Party Young Socialists was proscribed. The LPYS was the youth wing of The Labour Party for under 25s.

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I used to work in the Cabinet Office in the early seventies and I was a member of the Labour Party (and the Tribune Group).

I never heard of any restrictions on membership of any party (including far left).We had to go through what was known as positive vetting and I was accepted despite my political affiliations.

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I used to work in the Cabinet Office in the early seventies and I was a member of the Labour Party (and the Tribune Group).

I never heard of any restrictions on membership of any party (including far left).We had to go through what was known as positive vetting and I was accepted despite my political affiliations.

Maybe it was just the MOD. The OHP slide I was shown, at a 'security' presentation as part of my induction, had a list of left and right wing political parties and groups who were proscribed - CPGB at the top of the left, NF top of the right. LPYS some way down the left hand side.

LPYS was a battleground between Militant and Socialist Organiser at the time, so maybe that had something to do with it.

I too was positively vetted and passed despite being a de facto member of LPYS.

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I'd be stunned if MI5 didn't have files of some kind on pretty much everyone.

It wouldn't be that hard to manage. The NHS can do it after all.

The NHS have a reason, almost everybody uses the NHS at some point and their "files" are just records of their dealings with the public. The vast majority of people (including lefties) will never come into contact with MI5.

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When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

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their "files" are just records of their dealings with the public.

And I would imagine the vast majority of MI5 files are similarly superficial.

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When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

It was nicknamed the Kremlin too and It got that name from the staff too

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When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

Of course it was :rolleyes:

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Moreover, some years ago (depressingly 30) when I was employed by the Ministry of Defence I was informed that membership of the Labour Party Young Socialists was proscribed. The LPYS was the youth wing of The Labour Party for under 25s.

My parents met in the LPYS. I am, literally, a child of the Labour Party.

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Mere membership of the Labour party - hardly.

If you had been an MP then I could believe it.

I'm pretty sure that MI5 will have pretty fat records on all MPs. Especially Labour ones.

MI5 have a track record of actively trying to bring down or prevent Labour governments,

Hardly. MI5 aren't the Stasi, they don't have the resources to have a file on every Labour member.

It has been admitted in Parliament that at one point in the 70s MI5 had files on several million British citizens. I understand the current officially admitted figure is something like 420,000 people. You can, of course, multiply that a few times to get the true number.

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When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

I don't know about that but there is an MI5 office in Leeds.

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I'm pretty sure that MI5 will have pretty fat records on all MPs. Especially Labour ones.

MI5 have a track record of actively trying to bring down or prevent Labour governments,

It has been admitted in Parliament that at one point in the 70s MI5 had files on several million British citizens. I understand the current officially admitted figure is something like 420,000 people. You can, of course, multiply that a few times to get the true number.

Source?

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It's OK, I have just looked at the MI5 website and they say they don't do any of this sort of stuff and I am now reassured.

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If someone goes to Boston, they should contact me and then follow my instructions to the letter.

Come on then, spill the beans. Boston/Cape Cod is being narrowed down as my holiday destination this year.

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On the issue of being blocked from entering the USA, I take a Marxist standpoint: I wouldn't want to visit a country that would have me as a visitor.

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