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Old Frightful    3,104

Been a Labour member for years and visited the US four times with no problems whatsoever.

Visited as in on holiday or visited as in worked there for a while?

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Steve May    158

How could they possibly know that he was a Labour party member?

They probably asked MI5.

I would be astonished if they haven't got a file on me and many people I know.

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Northern Sol    252

They probably asked MI5.

I would be astonished if they haven't got a file on me and many people I know.

I'd be astonished if they did. What makes you so important?

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Northern Sol    252

My political affiliation to an organisation that MI5 have always distrusted.

Mere membership of the Labour party - hardly.

If you had been an MP then I could believe it.

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Hardly. MI5 aren't the Stasi, they don't have the resources to have a file on every Labour member.

bet they do

and just about everyone else for that matter

they don't actually have to 'have a file': this computer malarkey...its the next big thing

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gingerjon    2,471

They probably asked MI5.

I would be astonished if they haven't got a file on me and many people I know.

I'd be stunned if MI5 didn't have files of some kind on pretty much everyone.

It wouldn't be that hard to manage. The NHS can do it after all.

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WearyRhino    594

Moreover, some years ago (depressingly 30) when I was employed by the Ministry of Defence I was informed that membership of the Labour Party Young Socialists was proscribed. The LPYS was the youth wing of The Labour Party for under 25s.

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Bazz    12

I used to work in the Cabinet Office in the early seventies and I was a member of the Labour Party (and the Tribune Group).

I never heard of any restrictions on membership of any party (including far left).We had to go through what was known as positive vetting and I was accepted despite my political affiliations.

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WearyRhino    594

I used to work in the Cabinet Office in the early seventies and I was a member of the Labour Party (and the Tribune Group).

I never heard of any restrictions on membership of any party (including far left).We had to go through what was known as positive vetting and I was accepted despite my political affiliations.

Maybe it was just the MOD. The OHP slide I was shown, at a 'security' presentation as part of my induction, had a list of left and right wing political parties and groups who were proscribed - CPGB at the top of the left, NF top of the right. LPYS some way down the left hand side.

LPYS was a battleground between Militant and Socialist Organiser at the time, so maybe that had something to do with it.

I too was positively vetted and passed despite being a de facto member of LPYS.

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Northern Sol    252

I'd be stunned if MI5 didn't have files of some kind on pretty much everyone.

It wouldn't be that hard to manage. The NHS can do it after all.

The NHS have a reason, almost everybody uses the NHS at some point and their "files" are just records of their dealings with the public. The vast majority of people (including lefties) will never come into contact with MI5.

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Wolford6    971

When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

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gingerjon    2,471
their "files" are just records of their dealings with the public.

And I would imagine the vast majority of MI5 files are similarly superficial.

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When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

It was nicknamed the Kremlin too and It got that name from the staff too

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Shadow    1,305

When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

Of course it was :rolleyes:

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Steve May    158

Moreover, some years ago (depressingly 30) when I was employed by the Ministry of Defence I was informed that membership of the Labour Party Young Socialists was proscribed. The LPYS was the youth wing of The Labour Party for under 25s.

My parents met in the LPYS. I am, literally, a child of the Labour Party.

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Steve May    158

Mere membership of the Labour party - hardly.

If you had been an MP then I could believe it.

I'm pretty sure that MI5 will have pretty fat records on all MPs. Especially Labour ones.

MI5 have a track record of actively trying to bring down or prevent Labour governments,

Hardly. MI5 aren't the Stasi, they don't have the resources to have a file on every Labour member.

It has been admitted in Parliament that at one point in the 70s MI5 had files on several million British citizens. I understand the current officially admitted figure is something like 420,000 people. You can, of course, multiply that a few times to get the true number.

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Steve May    158

When the DHSS built Quarry House in Leeds (the enormous building that looks like a power station sat next to the elevated bit of York Road), the top floor was for MI5/MI6.

I don't know about that but there is an MI5 office in Leeds.

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Northern Sol    252

I'm pretty sure that MI5 will have pretty fat records on all MPs. Especially Labour ones.

MI5 have a track record of actively trying to bring down or prevent Labour governments,

It has been admitted in Parliament that at one point in the 70s MI5 had files on several million British citizens. I understand the current officially admitted figure is something like 420,000 people. You can, of course, multiply that a few times to get the true number.

Source?

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