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And the Winner of the Golden Boot is...

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What tripe!

I wouldnt completely rule out the psychology element but to suggest it as the only or even the main reason we are 2nd or 3rd in world RL is simplistic at best and downright ignorant and silly at worst. Do you really beleive that Ellery Hanly, Paul Sculthorpe, Andy Gregory, Kevin Ward and their like went into Test matches psychologically beaten before a ball was kicked? They were all winners, Champions who were competing with players developed in a system far more competitive and efficient than ours, a system that produced and still produces players who in 99% of cases have to get by a host of other players to secure a Test Jersey, to reach the top they have to be great.

Back to Sinield,

Has he been the Best Player in the World over the last 12 months?

Not for me, he's done what he's always done and that is to be the fulcrum of a good Leeds team, looked great in domestic competition and, considering the opposition, relatively ordinary at international level. He's a decent ambassador for our game and a solid role model for younger payers, a shining example of a nice bloke who through hard work and dedication has had a great career which has put him up there with Leeds RLFCs best ever. That's the crux of this though isn't it, he's cumulatively had a great career without ever being anywhere near the best player in any single year including last year.

If there was an international award for career contribution then I'd nominate Kevin Sinfield in a flash and he'd rightfully win it by a distance!

If the Golden Boot is awarded to the Best Player in the World then it shouldn't have gone to Sinfield. The fact that it has diminishes the award not just this year but for every future year and for every year past.

If you just want blind congratulations without sincerity then knock yourself out but I don't agree with the panels selection and it's not even close enough for me to mitigate my misgivings away so I won't be adding my approval.

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Who was on the panel that made this decision ?

I have often thought the same when the MOS has been decided since 2004

So - of all the major awards he was eligible for this year:

Leeds Player of the year - nope (Ryan Hall)

SL Dream Team 6 or 13 - nope (Finch and O'Loughlin)

Man of Steel - Nope (not even shortlisted)

World XIII 6 or 13 - Nope (Thurston and Gallen)

Golden Boot - best player in the world - YEP!!!

Madness.

I do need to caveat that this is nothing to do with disliking Leeds (I feel quite the opposite), thinking all the NRL players are better, or being bitter about him playing a blinder in the Grand Final - simply that I don't think he has been anywhere near the best player in the World this year, and neither do the panels of the other major awards that I quoted.

FWIW - I don't always agree with who gets the award - isn't that the interesting thing about these - but I would absolutely like to congratulate him on the award.

But weren't you impressed at the way he got up and got on with his game in the GF after the cynical take out attempts?didnt miss a kick from all over the park.Just think if not for Sinfield Wire may well have been back to back SL champions by now

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Congratulations to him but I don't think anyone can take this award seriously, I think Ryan Hall is a better player than Sinfield which means he is not the best player at Leeds and is not the best player in the world, im yet to see any convincing arguments other than he captained his team to the the title which is exactly what Cam Smith did with the Stom as well as Captaining Australia to wins over New Zealand and Queensland over NSW, I don't even like the guy, I hate the team he plays for and im a NSW fan but he did take the captaincy from Lockyer which i'd imagine would of put a lot of pressure on him and still won everything.

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What tripe!

I wouldnt completely rule out the psychology element but to suggest it as the only or even the main reason we are 2nd or 3rd in world RL is simplistic at best and downright ignorant and silly at worst. Do you really beleive that Ellery Hanly, Paul Sculthorpe, Andy Gregory, Kevin Ward and their like went into Test matches psychologically beaten before a ball was kicked? They were all winners, Champions who were competing with players developed in a system far more competitive and efficient than ours, a system that produced and still produces players who in 99% of cases have to get by a host of other players to secure a Test Jersey, to reach the top they have to be great.

Back to Sinield,

Has he been the Best Player in the World over the last 12 months?

Not for me, he's done what he's always done and that is to be the fulcrum of a good Leeds team, looked great in domestic competition and, considering the opposition, relatively ordinary at international level. He's a decent ambassador for our game and a solid role model for younger payers, a shining example of a nice bloke who through hard work and dedication has had a great career which has put him up there with Leeds RLFCs best ever. That's the crux of this though isn't it, he's cumulatively had a great career without ever being anywhere near the best player in any single year including last year.

If there was an international award for career contribution then I'd nominate Kevin Sinfield in a flash and he'd rightfully win it by a distance!

If the Golden Boot is awarded to the Best Player in the World then it shouldn't have gone to Sinfield. The fact that it has diminishes the award not just this year but for every future year and for every year past.

If you just want blind congratulations without sincerity then knock yourself out but I don't agree with the panels selection and it's not even close enough for me to mitigate my misgivings away so I won't be adding my approval.

Question,is the best the player the most skillful or the one who leads and inspires teams.

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Congratulations to Kevin for the award, agree with Exiled Wiganer's and PMJ's sentiments. The fact is that in the only Anglo-Australian encounter that took place last year, Sinfield was the winning captain. If the Southern hemisphere wants the award that badly, then prove it by sending a touring international side and winning the Test series; that way there can be no doubt about who the best player is. Sinfield has been the leader for several seasons of the most influential European team of the last decade. He produced several stand out performances in the games that really mattered and could not have done any better in leading his country; as you can only beat the opposition that is in front of you, which England did in a convincing manner.

To be fair to the Aussies - they have no obligation to play us every year. It never happened in the 'Golden' era that people bang on about (80's & 90's) - and whilst I love my International Rugby League, I think it is not unreasonable that the Aussies decide that they don't want to tour Britain for three years on the bounce.

They did however play two tests against the current World Champions and beat them in both.

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Question,is the best the player the most skillful or the one who leads and inspires teams.

If were going by that Criteria i'd still go Cameron Smith.

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I love how the award can't now be taken seriously now Sinfield has won it,yet when other players have won it contentiously in the past it's been a great award.Very strange.

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But weren't you impressed at the way he got up and got on with his game in the GF after the cynical take out attempts?didnt miss a kick from all over the park.Just think if not for Sinfield Wire may well have been back to back SL champions by now

Of course I was impressed - and for that game he rightly got the Harry Sunderland award. THAT is the award for that game, not the Golden Boot!

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If were going by that Criteria i'd still go Cameron Smith.

We know you would. ;)

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I love how the award can't now be taken seriously now Sinfield has won it,yet when other players have won it contentiously in the past it's been a great award.Very strange.

TBF there were similar comments when Farrell won it.

There were accusations that at the time LPL were trying to give credibility to the boot by giving it to an English player.

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What tripe!

I wouldnt completely rule out the psychology element but to suggest it as the only or even the main reason we are 2nd or 3rd in world RL is simplistic at best and downright ignorant and silly at worst. Do you really beleive that Ellery Hanly, Paul Sculthorpe, Andy Gregory, Kevin Ward and their like went into Test matches psychologically beaten before a ball was kicked? They were all winners, Champions who were competing with players developed in a system far more competitive and efficient than ours, a system that produced and still produces players who in 99% of cases have to get by a host of other players to secure a Test Jersey, to reach the top they have to be great.

Back to Sinield,

Has he been the Best Player in the World over the last 12 months?

Not for me, he's done what he's always done and that is to be the fulcrum of a good Leeds team, looked great in domestic competition and, considering the opposition, relatively ordinary at international level. He's a decent ambassador for our game and a solid role model for younger payers, a shining example of a nice bloke who through hard work and dedication has had a great career which has put him up there with Leeds RLFCs best ever. That's the crux of this though isn't it, he's cumulatively had a great career without ever being anywhere near the best player in any single year including last year.

If there was an international award for career contribution then I'd nominate Kevin Sinfield in a flash and he'd rightfully win it by a distance!

If the Golden Boot is awarded to the Best Player in the World then it shouldn't have gone to Sinfield. The fact that it has diminishes the award not just this year but for every future year and for every year past.

If you just want blind congratulations without sincerity then knock yourself out but I don't agree with the panels selection and it's not even close enough for me to mitigate my misgivings away so I won't be adding my approval.

We haven't beaten the Aussies in a series since 1970 and Since 1972.Remember the 1980s?

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TBF there were similar comments when Farrell won it.

There were accusations that at the time LPL were trying to give credibility to the boot by giving it to an English player.

So when an English player wins it,it isn't deserved.

Should we not call it the gold and green boot then.

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You see it is all about opinion,but its because its a Leeds player that there is so much uproar

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So when an English player wins it,it isn't deserved.

Should we not call it the gold and green boot then.

If England were the number one team in the world and an Australian suddenly won it, I guarantee there would be plenty of Englishmen up in arms, just the way it works, every decision that is made is going to have a side that's for it and a side that's against it.

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You see it is all about opinion,but its because its a Leeds player that there is so much uproar

That's just ###### and to dismiss everyone as just being anti Leeds is very disrespectful of people's considered opinions!

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You see it is all about opinion,but its because its a Leeds player that there is so much uproar

You seem to have this complex that everybody hates Leeds, when I suspect most have respect for them, outside of the traditional rivalries.

Most people who have questioned this have advocated every accolade Ryan Hall has received.

Maybe, just maybe, people just don't believe he was the best player in the world this year, which was my understanding of the award.

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That's just ###### and to dismiss everyone as just being anti Leeds is very disrespectful of people's considered opinions!

Those old Players you mentioned not going into a game being psychologically beaten in test's I noticed you never mentioned Garry Schoefield?

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Those old Players you mentioned not going into a game being psychologically beaten in test's I noticed you never mentioned Garry Schoefield?

Seriously, you need to seek help, you have an acute persicution complex!

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One of the sad things about this for me is that when somebody like Phil "Buzz" Rothfield of the Sydney Telegraph refers to Sinfield as "Kevin Who?" - he is not merely affecting ignorance but is, I believe, genuinely, authentically ignorant as to Kevin Sinfield's status in the game.

Within Australian rugby league circles the likes of Steve Mascord are the exception... anyone perusing the aforementioned Telegraph or the Sydney Morning Herald or the rugby league section on the Roar will soon realise that the vast majority of current Australian journalists and fans have little or no idea re. the game in this country. Too many of them simply do not care about the game beyond their shores and do not pretend otherwise. Of course, our national side's performances over many years have made this easy for them but I reckon they would take some convincing that our national side used to defeat theirs on a regular basis - home and away - in one Ashes series after another...

Sinfield and his men - assuming the former is to captain England at the World Cup - can shock the Australian press and public once and for all later this year by doing something their predecessors used to do on a regular basis. If Rothfield and co are incredulous right now, I wonder what they might be like then?

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You see it is all about opinion,but its because its a Leeds player that there is so much uproar

Pretty much every single one of my posts Arguing that Sinfield is not the best in the world I have praised Ryan Hall, do I hate Leeds players?

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So when an English player wins it,it isn't deserved.

Should we not call it the gold and green boot then.

It's a fair challenge, but the reality is that the Australian team have some outstanding individuals playing for them, and have done so for the last few decades. It's not massively unexpected that a team that has had the likes of Lockyer, Smith, Slater, Inglis etc will dominate this award.

TBH - I don't agree that he was the best player in the World in 2012, there's nothing more to it than that from my point of view, so not really much else for me to debate.

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Seriously, you need to seek help, you have an acute persicution complex!

So Schofield was not as good as those players you mentioned?he was psycholgically beaten before he went on the field?

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So Schofield was not as good as those players you mentioned?he was psycholgically beaten before he went on the field?

He only named four players. I'm sure he could have named scores of players, but it would have sort of ruined his post.

Sorry for speaking for you Omega!

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So Schofield was not as good as those players you mentioned?he was psycholgically beaten before he went on the field?

My God you're being serious!

It wasn't a finite list there were many other players I could've added but a small handful was enough to illustrate my point, if it makes you happy and removes the need for increasing your medication then I would happily include Schoffield on that list.

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He only named four players. I'm sure he could have named scores of players, but it would have sort of ruined his post.

Sorry for speaking for you Omega!

Exactly

No problem you were spot on.

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