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It wouldnt cost a huge sum to do and if they ever need the extra seating then stands can be built on the other side over time. There are a lot worse stadiums around in terms of facilities etc...

on a perfect world scenario surely there would also be a way of doing this but also being able to "drop in" the rest of the athletics track if and when you may need it without it costing a fotune, would surely be cheaper than demolishing it/Eagles building their own ground etc. the technologyh cant be that hard..

To convert it to a stadium for "rugby use" (i.e for the Eagles and potentially Rotherham Tightarses if they ever get back into Union's premiership) would cost a minimum of £150,000 - and that's just to rip up the running track and move the pitch closer to the main stand. Given that it currently costs around 2 million a year to run DVS and the council loses around 500,000 a year on it, financially it wouldn't be a good option for the Eagles to take it on.There are also loads of repairs that need doing - the place is a grade A dump these days.

The decision to close DVS is one that's been on the cards for a long time. Decisions about potential use/saving it in some shape have been ongoing for months. The Eagles have around 12 months to find a solution. That is likely to be playing at Bramall Lane full time, though there are other issues there including the pitch, which needs investment. Sheffield United say they haven't got the money to do it, but pressure is being applied by politicians and others. I suspect a solution will be found to upgrade the pitch and accommodate the Eagles.

It's not the end of the World. With enough money and political will the land that DVS stands on could be redeveloped to include an 8,000-10,000 rugby stadium with social housing on part of the land. However, nobody has the means the pay for it - not the Eagles, not the Council etc - so it's pretty much a non-starter.

Given that UK athletics have never liked DVS and always preferred to put on Golden League etc events elsewhere, it was always a white elephant. That it's ending this way is no surprise, really.

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If the council want rid of it then it's not a chance that the Eagles will be able to afford to buy it. Not exactly a prime development spot, I know, but the size is huge and the council will want millions for it.

You'd be surprised. To save face they'd let it go for a relatively small amount, just to get it off their hands. That said, it's not exactly prime land given that Attercliffe is even more run down these days than it has been for years. Also, it wouldn't work for retail etc as Meadowhell and the Meadowhell retail park is down the road. I suspect the stadium will be demolished and the land sold off cheap to people to build offices, social housing etc.

For the record the council are being very supportive of the Eagles and have been trying to find a solution, ideally before the story "broke" (it was being discussed for months, and someone inside the council leaked it to Radio Sheffield).

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To convert it to a stadium for "rugby use" (i.e for the Eagles and potentially Rotherham Tightarses if they ever get back into Union's premiership) would cost a minimum of £150,000 - and that's just to rip up the running track and move the pitch closer to the main stand. Given that it currently costs around 2 million a year to run DVS and the council loses around 500,000 a year on it, financially it wouldn't be a good option for the Eagles to take it on.There are also loads of repairs that need doing - the place is a grade A dump these days.

The decision to close DVS is one that's been on the cards for a long time. Decisions about potential use/saving it in some shape have been ongoing for months. The Eagles have around 12 months to find a solution. That is likely to be playing at Bramall Lane full time, though there are other issues there including the pitch, which needs investment. Sheffield United say they haven't got the money to do it, but pressure is being applied by politicians and others. I suspect a solution will be found to upgrade the pitch and accommodate the Eagles.

It's not the end of the World. With enough money and political will the land that DVS stands on could be redeveloped to include an 8,000-10,000 rugby stadium with social housing on part of the land. However, nobody has the means the pay for it - not the Eagles, not the Council etc - so it's pretty much a non-starter.

Given that UK athletics have never liked DVS and always preferred to put on Golden League etc events elsewhere, it was always a white elephant. That it's ending this way is no surprise, really.

dont disagree with any of that.. just a big shame wish it had worked and very sad.. as i said on one of the other posts, the potential was there, they had grandprixs before the golden and now diamond league came a long.. i went and saw some great atheletes perform there but they never kicked on and kept up and now been overtaken and people take the meets elsewhere.

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dont disagree with any of that.. just a big shame wish it had worked and very sad.. as i said on one of the other posts, the potential was there, they had grandprixs before the golden and now diamond league came a long.. i went and saw some great atheletes perform there but they never kicked on and kept up and now been overtaken and people take the meets elsewhere.

Politics, Rich. The London and Gateshead lobby (as was) - e.g Brendan Foster etc - were always down on DVS as it was a rival - hence UK Athletics were more keen on getting "meets" to those stadiums and the small one in Birmingham.

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You'd be surprised. To save face they'd let it go for a relatively small amount, just to get it off their hands. That said, it's not exactly prime land given that Attercliffe is even more run down these days than it has been for years. Also, it wouldn't work for retail etc as Meadowhell and the Meadowhell retail park is down the road. I suspect the stadium will be demolished and the land sold off cheap to people to build offices, social housing etc.

For the record the council are being very supportive of the Eagles and have been trying to find a solution, ideally before the story "broke" (it was being discussed for months, and someone inside the council leaked it to Radio Sheffield).

I'm sure such private developers for offices/housing and the like have greater means to buy the land than the Eagles though?

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I'm sure such private developers for offices/housing and the like have greater means to buy the land than the Eagles though?

Yes, though it's not a particularly attractive place to live and they usually only build social/affordable housing with incentives from the council etc. Luxury flats wouldn't work in that part of Sheffield (or most of Sheffield for that matter)

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Is there enough space to build both office space/houses and a 12000 cap stadium?

Maybe a council backed project that delivers affordable homes and a permanent stadium for the eagles.

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I'm sure such private developers for offices/housing and the like have greater means to buy the land than the Eagles though?

If they have planning permission.

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If they have planning permission.

I think the Council may have thrown that in/pushed it through if the finance was there, but they wanted to try and save face first by finding a solution that included use of the stadium (or the building of a smaller stadium/conversion of the existing one). Now that's not happened and the closure plans have been leaked, pressure may be applied to get as much money as they can for the site, in whatever shape or form.

For the record they're going to upgrade Woodburn Road athletics track as part of any closure, so the local athletics club/Jess Ennis etc have somewhere to train. Ironically enough the city's original athletics stadium/track is now a Rugby League ground (Hillsborough Sports Arena, home of Hillsborough Hawks and built over the old running track using lottery cash in the 1990s)

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I heard a story a few years ago that Dave Allen a local bussiness man who owns the dog track and casinos wanted to buy it . His PLAN was to keep the main stand move the pitch across knock down the rest and use the remaining land to build a super casino and hotel.

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The Newmarket model might be good if a developer can be found, whereby they are given permission to put warehouses or housimng or whatever on the site so long as they build a 10 to 15 000 seat stadium for the Eagles and maybe Rotherham RU and community use. Just a thought.

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If the council want rid of it then it's not a chance that the Eagles will be able to afford to buy it. Not exactly a prime development spot, I know, but the size is huge and the council will want millions for it.

Could Sheffield not use them being turfed out as a lever to get the council to develop the old ground they used to have? I believe it is still there

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Sheffield Wednesday have the money ? :mellow:

Hillsbrough is a sensitive topic in football and in South Yorkshire. The ground could be sold and the government might find some financial support.

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Could Sheffield not use them being turfed out as a lever to get the council to develop the old ground they used to have? I believe it is still there

Highly unlikely.

It's privately owned and used regularly as a dog track. It's not derelict.

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Hillsborough is a sensitive topic in football and in South Yorkshire. The ground could be sold and the government might find some financial support.

Even less likely.

Hillsborough is a well developed ground. Knocking it down and rebuilding it on the Don Valley site makes absolutely no sense.

Government ? Financial support ? Only if some MP slips it on his expenses claim. :lol:

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The best solution for the Eagles is a guaranteed long term deal to use Bramall Lane for the majority of / all games, with some "on the road" fixtures at suitable venues if absolutely necessary.

Having the Eagles own/maintain a stadium of any size suitable for Super League without any other guaranteed income is probably a recipe for bankruptcy.

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Guaranteed ? Long term ? :mellow:

Won't ever happen. If a new management comes in and wants Eagles out, they'd be out.

Unless Nahaboo buys the stadium for us, obviously. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Erm, RFL should buy it on condition of a small golden goodbye from the council and move a 3g pitch closer, it is an opportunity. Ideas needed !

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Bloody awful place to watch Rugby

Did anyone else pick up that the people of Sheffield will still be paying for the 1991 student games in 2024? (From BBC online) I bet they're delighted at that.

Not just Sheffield.- What I did pick up is the value of the site is worth more than whats owing on the stadium.

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Not just Sheffield.- What I did pick up is the value of the site is worth more than whats owing on the stadium.

I would hope so.

Though that obviously depends on planning issues.

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Hillsbrough is a sensitive topic in football and in South Yorkshire. The ground could be sold and the government might find some financial support.

I suspect Wiki is out of date as it claims that 'with a view to hosting 2018 World Cup matches' the local council have agreed to invest £22m to increase the capacity.

But even without that the ground is unrecognisable from 1989 - it was upgraded for Euro 96 and still (on the TV at least) looks pretty modern if soul-less. There's no sensitivity about the place in soccer that I'm aware of and I doubt there's any desire from anyone to sell it.

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