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Has Wane Lost the Plot?

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As for your last comment, I don't think that's fair - he is open to question just like any coach - I certainly don't agree with the OP, but he does have traits that I don't impress me (but maybe that is par for the course with a Wigan manager :P ).

It's worth pointing out though that his record in 2012 was very similar to Tony Smith's in 2011. It will be interesting to see how he goes this year, I do think he has a tough job on his hands.

As a Wiganer, if the coach of my team is doing things that don't impress fans of other clubs that endears him to me even more! :P

As for 2013, he does have a tough job on his hands, the quality of players leaving has been high, new recruits, perhaps, to my untrained eye not of the same caliber - my expectations for 2013 are realistic as I think are most Wigan fans, I'd happily settle for a pot-less but competitive season with the promotion of some kids to more prominent positions in the first team squad.

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Wigan were millimetres from getting to the GF last season but got beat by a single point by the eventual winners even though they didn't have their best player.Now because Wane wants too try some youngsters in a non competitive game too see if they're good enough his abilities get questioned. Only in RL.

Wigan will do worse than they did last year likely, but if you think that's because of Wane you are clueless.

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Wigan were millimetres from getting to the GF last season but got beat by a single point by the eventual winners even though they didn't have their best player.Now because Wane wants too try some youngsters in a non competitive game too see if they're good enough his abilities get questioned. Only in RL.

Wigan will do worse than they did last year likely, but if you think that's because of Wane you are clueless.

As coach he made the ridiculous decision to give a very young and inexperienced boy his debut in a high pressure game against a team noted for playing their best in knock out matches. He could have played Gelling or Thornley on the wing thus giving Wigan a physical presence on the wing and freeing Richards up to play full back, that decision cost you the game.

It's not his decision to play youngsters that's under scrutiny here, it's his very public lambasting of them while taking no responsibility himself.

I think Wigan will slip somewhat this year and I think Wane will be partially to blame, if you don't think he should carry any of the responsibility then it's you that's clueless.

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As coach he made the ridiculous decision to give a very young and inexperienced boy his debut in a high pressure game against a team noted for playing their best in knock out matches.

It wasn't Murphy's debut.

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As coach he made the ridiculous decision to give a very young and inexperienced boy his debut in a high pressure game against a team noted for playing their best in knock out matches. He could have played Gelling or Thornley on the wing thus giving Wigan a physical presence on the wing and freeing Richards up to play full back, that decision cost you the game.

It's not his decision to play youngsters that's under scrutiny here, it's his very public lambasting of them while taking no responsibility himself.

I think Wigan will slip somewhat this year and I think Wane will be partially to blame, if you don't think he should carry any of the responsibility then it's you that's clueless.

I didn't cost me the game as I'm not a Wigan fan. It wasn't Murphys debut either and the lad made a couple of mistakes in a semi final against Leeds, doesn't that sound similar to someone else?

We'll see in a few years if these youngsters he's 'lambasting' turn into good players or if Wane has ruined their development. I'd put my money on them turning into good players.

How will it be Wanes fault if they do worse? If you take 2 of any clubs top 3 most influential players they're obviously going to do worse, especially players of the calibre of Finch and Leuleuai who are the best half back partnership in the league by some distance. Then remove a dream team centre and an experienced prop out of the side and they're obviously going to do worse, there isn't much a coach can do about that.

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He had to take a weaker squad into last season as well, and adapted better than certainly I envisaged. He has worked alongside a lot of the younger players at the club for a long time - in terms of bringing younger players through and developing them he has a lot of runs on the board.

I happen to think our best hope of success is again the LLS, given that we have a lot of quality. While we are not as good as Leeds or Wire at their best, our worst is better than theirs imo. That would do for me.

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I havnt called for him to be sacked, you made that bit up!

I'm asking questions about his ability based on his poor decision making and inability to accept any responsibility for F Ups

which SL coach won the most games last season?

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While we are not as good as Leeds or Wire at their best, our worst is better than theirs imo. That would do for me.

That's funny, because each time we played you last season I read Wigan fans saying that Wigan had played at their worst. And we know what the results were in those games.

All the best for 2013, EW. ;)

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which SL coach won the most games last season?

Tony Smith - one more in SL and two more in the CC.

Still, Wane more than surpassed my expectations last season: Wigan roared for much of last season. His style is certainly a bit different to the cool Aussie persona we have got used to across the league, but he had the respect of his players and they were a tough outfit. He'll have a plan for this season which I suspect will be focused on them being at their best in 2014, but they have enough to hurt anybody and will be in the top 4 mix. Once you're there, we know things can happen.

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That's funny, because each time we played you last season I read Wigan fans saying that Wigan had played at their worst. And we know what the results were in those games.

All the best for 2013, EW. ;)

I thought we played really well at the DW, certainly well enough to beat pretty much everyone else.

I don't think we played as badly as Wire against London, though that may be my pie tinted spectacles.

All the best Mark. I'll be happy with Wigan bottom of the league, if the World Cup is a success.

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