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Yeah.

Everyone goes on about the 1985 final, and I was there and it was a cracking match.

But there was some really really ordinary defence from both sides all afternoon.

It had everything.

Great sunny day

Good star English players on each team'

Big name Aussies on each team particularly Kenny V Sterlo the Parra and Australian Half combination.

Great running Footy, Kenny was at his prime.

One of the best games I have seen, rates alongside of Kenny's two tries in all three of Parramatta's Grand final wins and two disallowed tries in a fourth Grand Final win.

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Huge shoulder pads and violence, must be the 80's. Ellery Hanley is a beast, best player I've ever seen and the reason why I fell in love with the great game.

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Huge shoulder pads and violence, must be the 80's. Ellery Hanley is a beast, best player I've ever seen and the reason why I fell in love with the great game.

Fair Call, Hanley lit up the field in his stints in Oz and when I saw him for GB.

He had everything needed to be the best in this game.

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It had everything.

Great sunny day

Good star English players on each team'

Big name Aussies on each team particularly Kenny V Sterlo the Parra and Australian Half combination.

Great running Footy, Kenny was at his prime.

One of the best games I have seen, rates alongside of Kenny's two tries in all three of Parramatta's Grand final wins and two disallowed tries in a fourth Grand Final win.

I was too young to remember this final but have seen replays of the game obviously on YouTube but also ESPN classics and have to agree its the best final ever. BTW was kenny and sterling playing in England during the off-season in Australia on short term contracts?

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I was too young to remember this final but have seen replays of the game obviously on YouTube but also ESPN classics and have to agree its the best final ever. BTW was kenny and sterling playing in England during the off-season in Australia on short term contracts?

Yes they played the off season in England, I am sure playing the game at the same time now is a good thing but when it was a split between the Leagues seasons it made for some great short signs ups like Sterlo Kenny, Ella, Grothe, Lewis, Meninga and Miles.

On the other side we had Hanley, Lydon, Offiah, Gregory, Crooks, Schoey, Ward and many others that did really well in Oz

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Anybody know which ropati that is playing for Warrington, good strong centre and having a great game in that clip and as for les Boyd what a player he was, but a dirty bast##d.

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Anybody know which ropati that is playing for Warrington, good strong centre and having a great game in that clip and as for les Boyd what a player he was, but a dirty bast##d.

Joe Ropati.

http://www.rugbyleag...ti/summary.html

Boyd the Baby Faced Assassin. Dirty as buggery but a good man to have alongside you in a fight, by all accounts he was a bit mental on the field but a quiet soft spoken Gent off the field

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Joe Ropati.

http://www.rugbyleag...ti/summary.html

Boyd the Baby Faced Assassin. Dirty as buggery but a good man to have alongside you in a fight, by all accounts he was a bit mental on the field but a quiet soft spoken Gent off the field

Boyd and Hanley seem to have a thing going in that match, lots of talking and pointing of fingers. I'm almost certain they had a bit of a do in a exhibition match in the US, I've seen it on YouTube. As for Peter ropati looks like a great player, I'm only familiar with saints stand off tea ropati and iva who played for Oldham I think.

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Anybody know which ropati that is playing for Warrington, good strong centre and having a great game in that clip and as for les Boyd what a player he was, but a dirty bast##d.

...and what about the way Andy "Popeye" Gregory runs in and throws Boyd over his shoulder!

Wigan have had better wings but in Gregory, Hanley and Kevin "The Beast" Iro they still had more match-winning stardust than the Wigan of today - the dazzling Tomkins excepted.

John Woods is rivalled only by Tony Myler as this country's best stand-off from the modern era - but I think that perhaps this game shows him at a stage when he was past his best?

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...and what about the way Andy "Popeye" Gregory runs in and throws Boyd over his shoulder!

Wigan have had better wings but in Gregory, Hanley and Kevin "The Beast" Iro they still had more match-winning stardust than the Wigan of today - the dazzling Tomkins excepted.

John Woods is rivalled only by Tony Myler as this country's best stand-off from the modern era - but I think that perhaps this game shows him at a stage when he was past his best?

How much would Hanley be worth today? Sad thing is with union going professional we would probably have only see Hanley until his early 20s if that in league if he was playing today.

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Boyd and Hanley seem to have a thing going in that match, lots of talking and pointing of fingers. I'm almost certain they had a bit of a do in a exhibition match in the US, I've seen it on YouTube. As for Peter ropati looks like a great player, I'm only familiar with saints stand off tea ropati and iva who played for Oldham I think.

The US match was held in Milwaukee. Hanley had been getting pre-publicity as one of the big stars, but when they got to the USA, he announced he would not be speaking to the media. Les Boyd, on the other hand, did speak to the media, informing them that he was going to get Hanley. And, being a man of his word, he did! :D

Wigan won, 12:5, in front of about 7 and a half thousand extremely impressed spectators and, this being Rugby League, nothing whatsoever was done to capitalise on the event. Here's the clip:

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I was too young to remember this final but have seen replays of the game obviously on YouTube but also ESPN classics and have to agree its the best final ever. BTW was kenny and sterling playing in England during the off-season in Australia on short term contracts?

I've watched the video of this final a few times over the years. Hull's Kiwis were an impressive collection in their own right - Fred ah Kuoi, James Leuleuai, Gary Kemble and Dane O'Hara.

Wigan, as well as Brett Kenny, had the extremely entertaining wing talents of Henderson Gill and John 'Chicka' Ferguson, both of whom scored tries.

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Wigan, as well as Brett Kenny, had the extremely entertaining wing talents of Henderson Gill and John 'Chicka' Ferguson, both of whom scored tries.

I remember a BBC camera focussing in on Ferguson on the pitch immediately after the final whistle of one game. He was smoking a fag.

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The US match was held in Milwaukee. Hanley had been getting pre-publicity as one of the big stars, but when they got to the USA, he announced he would not be speaking to the media. Les Boyd, on the other hand, did speak to the media, informing them that he was going to get Hanley. And, being a man of his word, he did! :D

Wigan won, 12:5, in front of about 7 and a half thousand extremely impressed spectators and, this being Rugby League, nothing whatsoever was done to capitalise on the event. Here's the clip:

Is their a clip of the entire match or highlights on YouTube? And what's with the baggy strips, are they trying to americanize the game.

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I've watched the video of this final a few times over the years. Hull's Kiwis were an impressive collection in their own right - Fred ah Kuoi, James Leuleuai, Gary Kemble and Dane O'Hara.

Wigan, as well as Brett Kenny, had the extremely entertaining wing talents of Henderson Gill and John 'Chicka' Ferguson, both of whom scored tries.

James leuleuai was a good player with a great side step and swerve from what I've seen on YouTube.

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Is their a clip of the entire match or highlights on YouTube? And what's with the baggy strips, are they trying to americanize the game.

I don't think there's much more than that clip online.

I did watch the match on TV, which may have been extended highlights instead of the whole match - can't remember details that far back. The fact that the footage was shown doesn't mean it was recorded by anyone and kept long enough until the birth of youTube, though.

The strips were normal for the era. It was still a few years before tighter (harder to grab) shirts were introduced. And even more years before Clive Woodward invented the idea. ;)

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I've watched the video of this final a few times over the years. Hull's Kiwis were an impressive collection in their own right - Fred ah Kuoi, James Leuleuai, Gary Kemble and Dane O'Hara.

Wigan, as well as Brett Kenny, had the extremely entertaining wing talents of Henderson Gill and John 'Chicka' Ferguson, both of whom scored tries.

O'Hara had a nightmare that day against Ferguson.

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Good footage in this thread. Better than anything on TV tonight.

Great to see the Fartown Ground in all its glory.

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Nice use of the boot by Boyd in the melee? Not sure he connected!

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Thanks Steve, just had a look. The gorgeous surroundings were not so much in evidence this time!

I'd like to know about Huddersfield's Tony Johnson and although I recognise Keith Macklin as the main commentator, is his co-commentator David Watkins or somebody else altogether?

Tony had a big heart and took a fair bit of stick from opposition players, although not usually to the extent that he did in the Battle of Fartown game vs Wigan.

I think he was a Police Officer.

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Tony had a big heart and took a fair bit of stick from opposition players, although not usually to the extent that he did in the Battle of Fartown game vs Wigan.

I think he was a Police Officer.

Thank you. He looked more than just big-hearted on the evidence of these few clips. Was he ever close to receiving international honours? And was he a policeman during or after his career - because if it was the former, then I would have supported his arresting a few of the Wigan players before the 80 minutes were up...

Lewis Jones on the commentary seems to find the referee's approach to Wigan's targeting of Johnson as a little perplexing - and who can blame him?

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Thank you. He looked more than just big-hearted on the evidence of these few clips. Was he ever close to receiving international honours? And was he a policeman during or after his career - because if it was the former, then I would have supported his arresting a few of the Wigan players before the 80 minutes were up...

Lewis Jones on the commentary seems to find the referee's approach to Wigan's targeting of Johnson as a little perplexing - and who can blame him?

I can't recall him getting close to international honours but it is a while ago....Fartown were pretty up and down in those days and not seen as producing, or holding on to international quality players. I think he was in the police for some of his playing career. He was a good bloke and approachable and up for a chat about rugby.

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I can't honestly remember Tony Johnston. The Huddersfield players I best remember from that era were Ken Senior, Ian van Bellen, Malcolm Branch and Gordon Pritchard.

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Lewis Jones on the commentary seems to find the referee's approach to Wigan's targeting of Johnson as a little perplexing - and who can blame him?

In this period quite a few of the Fartown fans I knew thought that Tony Johnson was targeted by the players of the Lancashire teams in particular, because he was black.

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I can't recall him getting close to international honours but it is a while ago....Fartown were pretty up and down in those days and not seen as producing, or holding on to international quality players. I think he was in the police for some of his playing career. He was a good bloke and approachable and up for a chat about rugby.

Thanks for this. It's a shame he never gained international recognition as he appears to have had a lot more talent than some of the players ranged against him - a few of whom must have been capped at one time or another.

After seeing these clips - if ever I were to see him - there's a part of me which would want to say "sorry" for the ###### he had to go through in this game...

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