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So Hock has joined Widnes

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to be fair, denis betts has laid his cards on the table with regards to club discipline, he had no hesitation to sack scott moore and anthony watts last season for misdemeanors, so obviously gaz knows this and he will have to toe the line or be out on his backside.

my thoughts exactly......hopefully this won't go the same way!

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my thoughts exactly......hopefully this won't go the same way!

If it does,where next for Hock?

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to be fair, denis betts has laid his cards on the table with regards to club discipline, he had no hesitation to sack scott moore and anthony watts last season for misdemeanors, so obviously gaz knows this and he will have to toe the line or be out on his backside.

He may know this. Or it may not have occurred to him, and the problems will continue.

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To be honest the big question for me is why a Wigan lad would suddenly decide he no longer wants to play for his hometown club and desperately wants to go anywhere else?

Well reading the article it plausibly looks like:

GH wanted a pay rise. IL said no

GH said that, in which case he wanted to play in Aus. IL said OK as long as we get a fee... Paramatta said no

GH said in which case I'm not going to rehab and training so you'll have to sack me then I can be a free agent and go for nothing

IL said no

all seems depressing likely to me

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ineresting quote from lenagan that wigan were not prepared to let him go to one of there major competitors

so now we know wigans opinion of widnes

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Well reading the article it plausibly looks like:

GH wanted a pay rise. IL said no

GH said that, in which case he wanted to play in Aus. IL said OK as long as we get a fee... Paramatta said no

GH said in which case I'm not going to rehab and training so you'll have to sack me then I can be a free agent and go for nothing

IL said no

all seems depressing likely to me

That is exactly how I read it.

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ineresting quote from lenagan that wigan were not prepared to let him go to one of there major competitors

so now we know wigans opinion of widnes

Not surprising that Widnes are not classed as a major competitor of Wigan give that this is only their second season in Super League since 2005.

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I've no problem with that quote. Wigan are expecting to challenge for honours, Widnes aren't. Not going to read too much into it, people get offended for nowt.

Good signing for us obviously.

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That is exactly how I read it.

that's exactly how you are meant to read it!

There's more to this than is being portrayed by IL and Wigan, IL knows the importance of getting the Clubs story out first, he knows the majority will accept it as fact even if Hock and his agent later refute his claims.

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Surely the big question surrounding this move is will certain Wigan fans on here still defend his ahem..."antics"....

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Although I'm not a Wigan fan and I'm a big fan of Gareth hock on the pitch, I applaud them in their actions. The Wigan club have stuck with Gareth hock through a turbulent time in his life and this is how he repays them, no one player is bigger than the club and other sports could learn a thing or two from Wigan and rugby league in general.

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I doubt that Wigans side can be demonstrably false otherwise there's going to be a big liable payout to Mr Hock.

I do accept there may be more to this, but those points I mentioned are most likely true. IL is too shrewd and legally minded do put something out that is incorrect.

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he's an idiot :rolleyes:

That's the best post on this thread. Don't get me wrong he's got talent But he's got the brains of mike Tyson he's too hot headed and if I was a Wigan fan I would be glad to see the back of him. He will only lose it on the field and get banned or cause mayhem behind the scenes anyway. He's a liability.

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Significantly strenghtenss Widnes as long as he keeps his behaviour in check. There won't be many opportunities for a club in Widnes's position to sign an England international second row forward, so it's probably worth the risk.

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ineresting quote from lenagan that wigan were not prepared to let him go to one of there major competitors

so now we know wigans opinion of widnes

Looking at Wigans squad (especially now) I'd say Widnes are their major competitors :lol:

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I've no problem with that quote. Wigan are expecting to challenge for honours, Widnes aren't. Not going to read too much into it, people get offended for nowt.

Good signing for us obviously.

Exactly.....I did chuckle when I read that but then thought....."fair enough....."

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Gaz hock is without doubt 1 of the 3 best back row forwards in the super league along with Manu and westwood, if it is to do with money then Wigan are there own enemy's in not paying him and rewarding him with a fantastic yr e had last season, good luck to the kid I say well done gaz go and tear super league up again and stick it to the pie eaters!!!!!

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He was on Radio 5 and the gist of his statement was "I've got several mates at Widnes and.... errr, I've got several mates at Widnes".

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He was on Radio 5 and the gist of his statement was "I've got several mates at Widnes and.... errr, I've got several mates at Widnes".

And none left in Wigan?

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I'm not suggesting that IL has lied but equally Hock could truthfully state his side of the argument and throw a completely different context onto why he wants out!

I'm no big fan of Hock and I love to watch Wigan so theres no agenda from me.

I'm not going to demonise Gareth Hock based on A very one sided and seemingly emotional press release from IL.

I have to wonder what's been going on that makes a Wigan lad who's been at Wigan since he was about 12 suddenly say he never wants to play for Wigan ever again. Please don't throw he got turned down for a pay rise at me because it doesn't add up, not to me anyway.

Rumours abound that Hock and Wayne have been at each others throats since Hock returned and it's gt worse since SW became Head Coach. Same sources are telling me that a number of players aren't happy and one of those is Sam Tomkins.

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If Wigan have a successful season now it could set them up for year's get the kind of club spirit they have at Leeds

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maybe he was due some kind of blood test at wigan :(

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If Wigan have a successful season now it could set them up for year's get the kind of club spirit they have at Leeds

So who'll get the No.14 shirt now, I wonder?

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