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Paul Wood playing for Swinton Sunday

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Pity about the regulars signed by the Lions pre season who will miss out on winning pay you might have well have signed all the a teams in NL1 at least that would have given more games in the season!

This arrangement just doesn`t seem fair!

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Pity about the regulars signed by the Lions pre season who will miss out on winning pay you might have well have signed all the a teams in NL1 at least that would have given more games in the season!

This arrangement just doesn`t seem fair!

Swinton are reliant on DR players as they have only signed 17 of their own. One injury and they could not put out a team without DR.

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You can't blame Swinton! Just playing the rules.The RFL have not thought this through,the agreement should have been restricted to players with limited first team experience.

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I can just picture the scene now...Opposition running away with game, Swinton got say 4 dual reg in side...regular Lions players heads down, let the supa dupa league wealthies do the work...I just cannot see this daft idea being good for team morale!

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It should be interesting seeing Wood and McCarthy up against Dowes, Thackray and Lupton for Town (all Town players). We have one DR player from Widnes playing - Declan Hulme - at present time from the 3 players offered.

The thing about the Wood and McCarthy listed in the Swinton squad is that there is at least another 5 Warrington players named in their 19 man squad, so it will be interesting to see which 5 dual reg and/or loan players they play. They can't play them all.

Veteran Warrington prop Paul Wood will line up for Swinton against Workington at Leigh Sports Village on Sunday 3pm.

He's joined by Super League team-mates Tyrone McCarthy and JamesLaithwaite as three dual registration players in the Lions 19-man squad for the opening game in the Championship.

It will be Wood’s first competitive game after surgery on an injury he got in Warrington’s Grand Final defeat to Leeds Rhinos in October.

He returned to action in Warrington's friendly against Widnes on Boxing Day.

Loose forward McCarthy, 25, has spent three seasons with the Wolves which has included spells with Wakefield and Leigh.

Back-rower Laithwaite, 21, came through the Warrington academy and spent most of last season on dual registration at Leigh.

The squad includes nine new signings and seven players returning from last season.

Swinton’s 19-man squad to face Workington (with squad numbers).

1 Richie Hawkyard

2 Andy Ballard

3 Martin Ainscough

7 Ian Watson

8 David Mills

9 Mark Smith

10 Neil Holland

12 Darren Hawkyard

13 Josh Barlow

14 Liam Hulme

17 Ryan Shaw

18 Jack Morrison

19 James Mendieka

20 Danny Bridge

21 Glenn Riley

22 Gene Ormsby

Paul Wood

James Laithwaite

Tyrone McCarthy

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In my opinion it's totally unfair to the teams who are not in one of these arrangements and have to find all their own players and pay them.

Keighley, for instance, might get relegated and Swinton spared because Swinton are playing with half a SL team most of the time, whereas, otherwise, they would be favourites for the drop. The same goes for York and Hunslet. It's not a level playig field.

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This would suggest that Swinton are only Infact fielding 3 DRs and that the remainder of Wire players are all signed on permanent deals.

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This "new" arrangement will end in tears!

And it will not be Superleague or the RFL who sheds them!

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In my opinion it's totally unfair to the teams who are not in one of these arrangements and have to find all their own players and pay them.

Keighley, for instance, might get relegated and Swinton spared because Swinton are playing with half a SL team most of the time, whereas, otherwise, they would be favourites for the drop. The same goes for York and Hunslet. It's not a level playig field.

will the salary cap help to control this?

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The six Warrington players all signed "apparently" as DR players earlier in the close season now appear to all be fully registered Swinton players now allowing them to bring in other players as DR players.

There can only be one reason for this and that is a deliberate ploy to get round the system. No doubt come the end of the season the six players will all go back to being Warrington players again.

The DR system is now in disarray in many fans opinions and needs sorting if it is to mean anything.

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personally I think wire have dropped a bollack allowing wood to play for swinton :D

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Warrington Guardian reports that Wood has been named in both Warrington & Swinton squads for this weekend......

http://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/wolves/wolvesnews/10201950.Wood_named_in_both_Wolves_and_Swinton_squads_for_games_on_Sunday/

If that's the case then the rules must have changed again, because last season if a player was named in a SL squad he could not play for the DR team even if he didn't play in the SL game.

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will the salary cap help to control this?

Not as much as it should. A SL player being paid £60-100k pa can play in all 26 league games for a CC side and only count as £26k on the cap.

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So six Warrington players have been given Swinton squad numbers. What's going on? Is this how the system was intended to be? Swinton can now field 11 Wariington players, not the limit of five as intended.

It appears to me that neither club has any respect for the integrity of the Championship.

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Let's be honest Swinton haven't had anything to offer the game since they left Station Road. They should have been put to sleep mercifully way back in 1992.

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We are being asked to believe that six young players with contracts at Warrington have given them up to all sign for Swinton without any conditions attached about returns, etc,? No, I can't see that either. They have officially got around the loaning of players and shown the DR system up as unworkable.

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What happened last year? Didnt DR players get squas numbers then?

There'll still only be 5/6 as per the rules wont there?

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What happened last year? Didnt DR players get squas numbers then?

There'll still only be 5/6 as per the rules wont there?

You're missing the point somewhat. Swinton announced a couple of weeks ago that they had signed 6 Warrington players on DR. Now, quite mysteriously and without any announcement, they appear to have signed these 6 permanently as their own players thus freeing up 5 additional places for other 'DR' players. Do you really believe those original 6 DR players are no longer affiliated to Warrington and are bona fide Swinton players ? A bit convenient that isn't it ?

So, with these 6 plus 5 more on DR they could theoretically have 11 Warrington players in their team one week. That's a nonsense.

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You're missing the point somewhat. Swinton announced a couple of weeks ago that they had signed 6 Warrington players on DR. Now, quite mysteriously and without any announcement, they appear to have signed these 6 permanently as their own players thus freeing up 5 additional places for other 'DR' players. Do you really believe those original 6 DR players are no longer affiliated to Warrington and are bona fide Swinton players ? A bit convenient that isn't it ?

So, with these 6 plus 5 more on DR they could theoretically have 11 Warrington players in their team one week. That's a nonsense.

where has this been confirmed?

It now looks like Wire have followed the approach of registering all the squad, but i havent seen anything which says more than the 5/6 DR players will play.

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where has this been confirmed?

It now looks like Wire have followed the approach of registering all the squad, but i havent seen anything which says more than the 5/6 DR players will play.

Swinton's own website says they have 3 DR players in the squad for Sunday, namely Wood, McCarthy & Lewthwaite, which suggests the original 6 aren't on DR but are Swinton players.

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Swinton's own website says they have 3 DR players in the squad for Sunday, namely Wood, McCarthy & Lewthwaite, which suggests the original 6 aren't on DR but are Swinton players.

will be interesting to see what happens then. Surely this system wont work when it is abused like this.

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Let's be honest Swinton haven't had anything to offer the game since they left Station Road. They should have been put to sleep mercifully way back in 1992.

I am so easy to wind up, but not tonight Finn, did you have someone else post this for you? Your Cousin/Girlfriend*? Someone who can spell?

*Probably the same

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will the salary cap help to control this?

It will depend hoe the cap works. Last years rules required a championship club to comply with a finite cap of £330k/£150k but also limited them to 40% of turnover, if the clubs are required to get their actual spend + the implied spend for DR players under 40% then yes the cap will help to control it. If however they only need to keep their actual spend under 40% then for many clubs it will have little effect.

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Once again the RFL have made a mess of things. I dont blame Swinton or Warrington for this. The original plan was I am sure for top youngsters to play at a higher standard and not for Internationals to get game time coming back from injury. The RFL should have looked at things properly and if we was going to go down this route then maybe have some set rules in place who can be a DR and that a max of 5 players could register not whole teams. I feel the Championship has been cheapened when such stunts are pulled. If Swinton need to avoid relegation will they then play 5 SL players if Wire have no need to win their game?

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