gingerjon 5,906 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 No - that is why it is #### (regarding point 1and point 3). I really dont enjoy watching NRL, and never watched it before I finally got shut of premier sports last year But it's a lot closer and that's all the fans want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM 4,813 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 10 years? Pah! 30 yeard? Double pah! 50 years ago Swinton put 100 points past Salford in just 2 gsmes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM 4,813 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 But it's a lot closer and that's all the fans want. But how does Lobby know that is what the fans want or, rather, that it is ALL the fans want? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hindle xiii 721 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 Is there much footage of ye olde games? It doesn't have to be a classic, and preferably not just "highlights". I've seen a bit or two of famous GB wins over Australia, and the game seems a bit messier than now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 691 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 But it's a lot closer and that's all the fans want. What fans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gav Wilson 1,055 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 When did Wigan stick 100+ points on Flimby & Fothergill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 5,906 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 What fans? The fans in lobbyland. It's all about close scores. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 691 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 Was 1983 the last time Leigh were any good by any chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 5,906 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 Was 1983 the last time Leigh were any good by any chance? It was when Lobby first watched the game and therefore it is how the game always was and how it always shall be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobbygobbler 445 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 Is there much footage of ye olde games? It doesn't have to be a classic, and preferably not just "highlights". I've seen a bit or two of famous GB wins over Australia, and the game seems a bit messier than now. RL was undeniably a little slower and scruffier back then, but I personally preferred it because the scores were much closer on average. Depends if you want cleaner but less close (on average) games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobbygobbler 445 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 It was when Lobby first watched the game and therefore it is how the game always was and how it always shall be. And when you last watched a game before getting into womens tiddlywinks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 691 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 That makes no sense Tight game this weekend, can't say I enjoyed it that much Newer converts to the games also don't like close, scruffy games either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnM 4,813 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 When did Wigan stick 100+ points on Flimby & Fothergill? 116 point to nil. 17th Feb 1925 There is one consolation for the visitors, and it is a good one. There was an excellent attendance, and their share of the gate will recompense them for the heavy defeat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerjon 5,906 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 RL was undeniably a little slower and scruffier back then, but I personally preferred it because the scores were much closer on average. Depends if you want cleaner but less close (on average) games. But you can have cleaner and closer games in the NRL. You've yet to explain why you don't like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobbygobbler 445 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 That makes no sense Tight game this weekend, can't say I enjoyed it that much Newer converts to the games also don't like close, scruffy games either Of course not, but what about the fans who have been fans for years? What about people who havent been converted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hindle xiii 721 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 What about people who havent been converted? The touch judges will wave them away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padge 4,164 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 1982/83 A selection of results from 1982/83 season where one team scored over 40 points, most are league games some are cup games and one or two are cross division cup games. There are plenty more where are club topped 30 without much in reply. Barrow 57 - Halifax 0 Batley 0 York 44 Bradford 55 Carlisle 3 Bramley 42 York 17 Cardiff 40 Swinton 12 Carlisle 0 Saints 52 Carlise 8 Castleford 66 Castleford 47 Halifax 2 Doncaster 5 Salford 55 Doncaster 0 Swinton 43 Doncaster 8 Keighley 42 Doncaster 9 Wakefield 48 Fev 41 Workington 8 Fev 0 Wigan 45 Hull KR 42 Whitehaven 3 Huyton 5 Fulham 50 Leeds 50 Workington 0 Leigh 51 Leeds 2 Saints 40 Carlisle 16 Salford 47 Huyton 3 Salford 40 Dewsbury 8 Swinton 50 Batley 8 Wakefield 41 Doncaster 9 Warrington 43 Huyton 5 Widnes 52 Carlisle 0 Wigan 40 Halifax 9 York 44 Batley 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gav Wilson 1,055 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 Wouldn't mind a few 44-0 wins this year if I'm honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RSN 748 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 Padge I think using actual facts in this debate isn't going to get the point across, its took 9 pages so far and we don't know how many more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
l'angelo mysterioso 861 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 1982/83 A selection of results from 1982/83 season where one team scored over 40 points, most are league games some are cup games and one or two are cross division cup games. There are plenty more where are club topped 30 without much in reply. Barrow 57 - Halifax 0 Batley 0 York 44 Bradford 55 Carlisle 3 Bramley 42 York 17 Cardiff 40 Swinton 12 Carlisle 0 Saints 52 Carlise 8 Castleford 66 Castleford 47 Halifax 2 Doncaster 5 Salford 55 Doncaster 0 Swinton 43 Doncaster 8 Keighley 42 Doncaster 9 Wakefield 48 Fev 41 Workington 8 Fev 0 Wigan 45 Hull KR 42 Whitehaven 3 Huyton 5 Fulham 50 Leeds 50 Workington 0 Leigh 51 Leeds 2 Saints 40 Carlisle 16 Salford 47 Huyton 3 Salford 40 Dewsbury 8 Swinton 50 Batley 8 Wakefield 41 Doncaster 9 Warrington 43 Huyton 5 Widnes 52 Carlisle 0 Wigan 40 Halifax 9 York 44 Batley 0 wasn't the three point try in operation then as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lobbygobbler 445 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 1982/83 A selection of results from 1982/83 season where one team scored over 40 points, most are league games some are cup games and one or two are cross division cup games. There are plenty more where are club topped 30 without much in reply. Barrow 57 - Halifax 0 Batley 0 York 44 Bradford 55 Carlisle 3 Bramley 42 York 17 Cardiff 40 Swinton 12 Carlisle 0 Saints 52 Carlise 8 Castleford 66 Castleford 47 Halifax 2 Doncaster 5 Salford 55 Doncaster 0 Swinton 43 Doncaster 8 Keighley 42 Doncaster 9 Wakefield 48 Fev 41 Workington 8 Fev 0 Wigan 45 Hull KR 42 Whitehaven 3 Huyton 5 Fulham 50 Leeds 50 Workington 0 Leigh 51 Leeds 2 Saints 40 Carlisle 16 Salford 47 Huyton 3 Salford 40 Dewsbury 8 Swinton 50 Batley 8 Wakefield 41 Doncaster 9 Warrington 43 Huyton 5 Widnes 52 Carlisle 0 Wigan 40 Halifax 9 York 44 Batley 0 This was a discussion about the top tier so why add second tier games as well? Why not just put up the top division scores? By the way - for a whole season across both divisions that is not actually too many large score margins! There were almost as many in SL alone last season with quite a few above 60. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkw 2,354 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 Did you make a bet with someone, maybe to see just how ridiculous you can look in a thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padge 4,164 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 wasn't the three point try in operation then as well? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Padge 4,164 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 This was a discussion about the top tier so why add second tier games as well? Why not just put up the top division scores? By the way - for a whole season across both divisions that is not actually too many large score margins! There were almost as many in SL alone last season with quite a few above 60. So you are saying blow-outs are ok in the second and third tier but unacceptable in the first tier. What about the fact that 82/83 was in the 3 point try era, some of those scores would look at lot worse with four point tries, a lot of the thirty point scores would also tip into the 40 point area. You continually claim these things didn't happen, its obvious they did, and in large numbers. Go away, do some maths, come back with ACTUAL FACTS that back up your argument. Do you have any actual facts, or is this all my rose tinted glasses say this never happened when I were a lad? And this time answer the questions instead of hiding under the bed blankets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximus Decimus 2,041 Report post Posted February 27, 2013 So you are saying blow-outs are ok in the second and third tier but unacceptable in the first tier. What about the fact that 82/83 was in the 3 point try era, some of those scores would look at lot worse with four point tries, a lot of the thirty point scores would also tip into the 40 point area. You continually claim these things didn't happen, its obvious they did, and in large numbers. Go away, do some maths, come back with ACTUAL FACTS that back up your argument. Do you have any actual facts, or is this all my rose tinted glasses say this never happened when I were a lad? And this time answer the questions instead of hiding under the bed blankets. Of course he doesn't have facts. Even if he somehow produced the facts he would need to provide some form of evidence that the 10m rule directly caused the blowouts rather than anything else that is different about the game since then. In summary he is miles away from making anything like a point. The thing that annoys me most about Lobby is that you know he is sat there wishing for the game to fail in the hope it somehow proves his point. He probably watches hoping it will be a blowout and be over by half-time just so he can continue to make his point about the 10m rule being the root of all RL's problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites