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Chris Hune admits guilt..eventually

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Things like this really ought to lead to the MP automatically losing their seat. I don't say this from some high moral stand point. It is the sheer lack of judgement, as you've highlighted, that gets me. If they can get things like this so badly wrong how can they be expected to get the big decisions about running the country right?

The odd thing being that even now Huhne could carry on being an MP.

John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud) was in prison and had to be persuaded to resign his seat. That was in the 70s. Bog all has been done to mean you can oust the buggers.

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"I wonder where they got that idea from?"

Denis McShane? Jim Devine? Elliot Morley? Eric Joyce? Eric Illsley? David Chaytor? John Stonehouse?

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You can't leave it alone can you John. Just as a matter of record it was Jonathan Aitken and Jeffrey Archer who went to jail for perjury. I've no doubt they perjured themselves because they thought they'd get away with it. I wonder where they got that idea from?

"I wonder where they got that idea from?"

Denis McShane? Jim Devine? Elliot Morley? Eric Joyce? Eric Illsley? David Chaytor? John Stonehouse?

Trying to score party political points on MPs bad behaviour really is "two bald men fighting over a comb" :dry:

Non of the major parties are exactly a beacon of morality.

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The thing that struck me was although he pleaded guilty, outside the court he said he had taken responsibility for something that happened. Not something he did or something he was involved in, or even responsibility for his own actions, just responsibility for something that happened. It struck me as an odd way of describing it.

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The thing that struck me was although he pleaded guilty, outside the court he said he had taken responsibility for something that happened. Not something he did or something he was involved in, or even responsibility for his own actions, just responsibility for something that happened. It struck me as an odd way of describing it.

Yes. He was also keen to mention how long ago it was.

I wasn't very convinced by it.

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The odd thing being that even now Huhne could carry on being an MP.

John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud) was in prison and had to be persuaded to resign his seat. That was in the 70s. Bog all has been done to mean you can oust the buggers.

If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.

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"I wonder where they got that idea from?"

Denis McShane? Jim Devine? Elliot Morley? Eric Joyce? Eric Illsley? David Chaytor? John Stonehouse?

None of whom perjured themselves and then brazenly said they'd "use the sword of truth" to destroy their accusers. They thought they'd get away with it because others, including Mark Thatcher had got away with corrupt practices in the past. The late Alistair Milne lost his job as DG of the Beeb due allegedly to witnesses in a libel trial being leant on by senior Tories. Labour may have done it and got caught, the Tories are past masters at manipulation and of course the old boy network can be used to cover a multitude of sins.

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If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.

You could also include Steve, that he was a spy for a socialist regime, and an EDP, as well a SDP member.

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If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.

They do indeed - I was more responding to Trojan's idea that unique amongst the parties Labour's can always be excused.

I didn't know that about Stonehouse though. I might have put it in otherwise.

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Yes. He was also keen to mention how long ago it was.

I wasn't very convinced by it.

The key issue now is how fragrant is the former Mrs Huhne.

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The key issue now is how fragrant is the former Mrs Huhne.

She's probably got more to lose than him. He will go to prison for six months, probably get out in three, and still be a milionaire. Whilst inside he will write his memoir and make another half a million.

She is a working economist who has lost her credibility, certainly as a TV pundit.

She hasn't helped herself by entering into a personal relationship with Denis McShane.

I hope she's got a good pension.

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This is a tragedy in the classical sense of a man and a woman brought down by their weaknesses.

A speeding ticket for pity's sake!

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If you want to get party political about it, that should be "John Stonehouse (Labour, faked his own death, spied against the country, committed fraud, joined the Liberal Democrats)"

My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.

agree entirely....and probably the not so mainstream ones too. Its a do as I say not do as I do world.

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My own view is that all the mainstream parties have a fair share of idiots and crooks.

In that respect they are representative of society.

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Nice.

Really? :blink: Either you or I should've gone to specsavers. B):D :D

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The key issue now is how fragrant is the former Mrs Huhne.

very IMHO

edit: to be played by Juliet Stephenson in the biopic

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None of whom perjured themselves and then brazenly said they'd "use the sword of truth" to destroy their accusers. They thought they'd get away with it because others, including Mark Thatcher had got away with corrupt practices in the past. The late Alistair Milne lost his job as DG of the Beeb due allegedly to witnesses in a libel trial being leant on by senior Tories. Labour may have done it and got caught, the Tories are past masters at manipulation and of course the old boy network can be used to cover a multitude of sins.

no they did other things instead

as for past masters: remember T Dan Smith? How many labour labour politicians did Poulson have in his pocket do you think?

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no they did other things instead

as for past masters: remember T Dan Smith? How many labour labour politicians did Poulson have in his pocket do you think?

T Dan Smith stated that he wasn't surprised at the corruption of members of all parties at local gov't level but that he was genuinely shocked at how cheaply they could be bought. The leader of one council planning committee nodded through a multi million pound develpment after he was promised a new bathroom.

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T Dan Smith stated that he wasn't surprised at the corruption of members of all parties at local gov't level but that he was genuinely shocked at how cheaply they could be bought. The leader of one council planning committee nodded through a multi million pound develpment after he was promised a new bathroom.

I don't doubt it for a minute, and wasn't Reginald maudling involved with poulson?

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Cannot see how they can get a jury for this now given the media coverage that any potential jurers will have been exposed to.

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Cannot see how they can get a jury for this now given the media coverage that any potential jurers will have been exposed to.

Other mistrials have greater coverage and get a fair second or third go.

Her fragranceness has clearly got to you as well.

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Other mistrials have greater coverage and get a fair second or third go.

Her fragranceness has clearly got to you as well.

Which?

And she hasn't been separated from Huhne long enough yet for that Lib Dem stench to lessen any. I guess some might find that odour pleasant.

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