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SOS to Brian Barwick.....please help the London Broncos!

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Another game for London another pitiful performance and attendance. I suggest that the new chairman of the RFL does what he can to bring in new ownership of the club utilising his vast network of contacts or gets the RFL to takeover and run the club lock, stock and barrel.

David Hughes has propped up the club over the past few years but lacks the footballing know how and in my view has made some terrible decisions at critical times when a more innovative solution was needed. From hiring Rob Powell to rehiring Tony Rea when coaches like Mick Potter and Brian Smith were available. Also returning to the tired broncos brand when a change of direction was needed for the club. At every point where the club could have reinvigorated itself the wrong choice was made and we returned to and celebrated formulas which didnt work, another season of failure beckons.

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Are we gonna get this everytime we beat someone this season......is it that humiliating?

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Are we gonna get this everytime we beat someone this season......is it that humiliating?

No, Widnes are developing into a good team, my opinions were the same before the season even kicked off.

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Forget what happens on the pitch for one moment and just look at the club. It's still a basketcase, and will only continue to deteriorate if nothing changes. If the RFL really does want a SL team in London then it needs to get involved before it's too late.

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Agreed and from what friends in London have told me the crowd figure quoted at around 2700 was more like 2100 with 700 from Widnes that means the core Broncos fans number no-more that around 1500 max,if that is the case expect 1500 for the visits of the Dragons/Reds later on in the season.CM

The fixtures you quote attracted 1500 and 1800 last year anyway so there'll be no "shock horror"

It should be apparent by now that London are not in Superleague for their attendances.

They are in for other reasons.

As for the benefits of booting London out and replacing them with another club with awful attendances then let's go ahead.

The challenge is to name a club that will bring more to the game than London across the board.

Also take on board that when it's important for SL clubs to save £100K each on junior development they aren't going to upset Mr. Hughes who puts in what?? £1,000,000 into Superleague a year?

Let's not narrow the argument down or we'll be kicking clubs out because they have an awful shirt.

Which means Widnes out on Sunday's showing.

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Forget what happens on the pitch for one moment and just look at the club. It's still a basketcase, and will only continue to deteriorate if nothing changes. If the RFL really does want a SL team in London then it needs to get involved before it's too late.

It's okay.

They've relaunched the e-zine again.

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The only way it would work is to give London a bigger slice of the Sky money, I mean an extra £1m per season, but I can't imagine the other clubs going for that. They also need some smart marketing to get people to games.

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we need broncos because of the great strides they have made off the pitch with the academy set up, they now have a steady stream of home grown talent coming through the system, lads who would have been lost to rl without the broncos. ok their core support may be only 1500 or so but again they are fans who wouldn't have been watching rl without the broncos. forget the op the club is still growing at a steady pace................

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Agreed and from what friends in London have told me the crowd figure quoted at around 2700 was more like 2100 with 700 from Widnes that means the core Broncos fans number no-more that around 1500 max,if that is the case expect 1500 for the visits of the Dragons/Reds later on in the season.CM

I counted around 2800...with 550 from Widnes in the East Stand -may have been another 150 dotted around, hard to say.

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Any sport/sports team trying to get a foothold in London will only succeed with a very very large budget to spend on promotion and on players. Someting neither the Broncos or the RFL have at the moment. Things would be made easier with a synpathetic press, (though currently all there is is a pathertic press), or at least some media outlets who are prepared to push and promote the Broncos like other sports/sports teams do.

Nothing will change drasticly until one or both of these things happen.

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Stephen Fry on BBC TV Breakfast this morning claimed he hasn't read a newspaper for eight years. He says he relies on Twitter for his news as it is generally factual and not tainted by the negativity of journalists. I'd have though that now was teh time for RL and particularly Broncos to embrace and promote this medium wholeheartedly.

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Stephen Fry on BBC TV Breakfast this morning claimed he hasn't read a newspaper for eight years. He says he relies on Twitter for his news as it is generally factual and not tainted by the negativity of journalists. I'd have though that now was teh time for RL and particularly Broncos to embrace and promote this medium wholeheartedly.

What team does he play for?

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we need broncos because of the great strides they have made off the pitch with the academy set up, they now have a steady stream of home grown talent coming through the system, lads who would have been lost to rl without the broncos. ok their core support may be only 1500 or so but again they are fans who wouldn't have been watching rl without the broncos. forget the op the club is still growing at a steady pace................

The game generally is doing okay down here, but the club is going backwards.

I missed the game on sunday because my mrs had arranged a visit to her mum. I mean, I could have put my foot down and insisted seeing as it was the first game of the season but in the end I decided I didn't want to have that argument only to then get to the Stoop and be disappointed by the club's efforts. Glad I didn't go as it turns out because apparently they overcharged for concessions tickets, the club shop ran out of stock (on day 1!), there was no food on offer at half time, promised free tickets never materialised, the free foam hands were laid out in the away fans section, and the CEO was running around after the gates had opened stacking shelves and putting up bunting. And then the team lost.

Two or three years ago a group of Quins RL / Broncos fans on here were slaughterign the club for it performance. If anything, things have deteriorated. Honestly, if the RFL wants a team down here then they've got to get involved themselves and actually do something about it.

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What team does he play for?

the other side? :)

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Money is part of the problem at London and as another poster said I would personally like to see them get a bigger share of the Sky money. Sadly Heartland clubs are to one eyed in most cases to agree to that. But Londons problems from the outside seem to be more than just the lack of money.

The biggest problem that London as well as other SL clubs face is just poor management. Changing names every so often and one that is a Historic Union club name has not helped. Playing so far away from where many amateur clubs are/have been based based like South London Storm, North London/Hemel/St.Albans etc hasnt helped them reap the rewards of working with the local amateur scene in London. A number of fans not just the starter of the thread have mentioned/complained about the lack of info coming from the club for many years and the failure of the Broncos/Quins to work with its current fan base let alone working with potential new fans.

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Honestly, if the RFL wants a team down here then they've got to get involved themselves and actually do something about it.

Mark is doubtful of the other SL clubs supporting more help for London, but if we can go back to the end of 2011 didn't Mr. Hughes meet with the RFL and basically say he could not fund the club wholesale, and didn't the RFL make concessions in the area of the junior development which is what Viking Warrior says the RFL want most out of a professional club in London?.

At that time Mr. Hudgell was of the opinion if Mr. Hughes "walked" then London would have to be funded "centrally". Given Mr. Hughes has been reported as putting in a million a year if not more then come 2015 the RFL may indeed be faced with conceding £2M of the SKY money to London every year???

That may mean a drop back to 12 clubs in SL. HOWEVER that day has not come and this year and next is based on Mr. Hughes funding and running the first team at will because he's paying for it. I cannot see how or why the RFL would move before 2015 unless they themselves have a few million to spare?

Which they don't.

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Stephen Fry on BBC TV Breakfast this morning claimed he hasn't read a newspaper for eight years. He says he relies on Twitter for his news as it is generally factual and not tainted by the negativity of journalists. I'd have though that now was teh time for RL and particularly Broncos to embrace and promote this medium wholeheartedly.

RL and the Broncos are pretty active on twitter.

The southern RL journalists are generally positive and talk up the game unlike their northern equivalents who seem to spend their entire time watching other sports and saying things like, "Watching the Super Bowl really shows how little ambition #rugbyleague has".

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The fixtures you quote attracted 1500 and 1800 last year anyway so there'll be no "shock horror"

It should be apparent by now that London are not in Superleague for their attendances.

They are in for other reasons.

As for the benefits of booting London out and replacing them with another club with awful attendances then let's go ahead.

The challenge is to name a club that will bring more to the game than London across the board.

Also take on board that when it's important for SL clubs to save £100K each on junior development they aren't going to upset Mr. Hughes who puts in what?? £1,000,000 into Superleague a year?

Let's not narrow the argument down or we'll be kicking clubs out because they have an awful shirt.

Which means Widnes out on Sunday's showing.

That post is a fair assessment but it seems to me to be wrong that London are not in danger because of their attendances but potential SL applicants have to demonstrate a pre set level of attendances when they are not yet even in SL. I think the crowd criterium should be removed from licence applications.

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I need to get out more

On Twitter,

SuperLeague has 25,246 followers

Wigan Warriors have 21375 followers

London Broncos have 5441 followers

Leigh have 3281 followers

Fax have 2787 followers

Fev have 1409 followers

Oldham - 923 followers

Swinton - 685 followers

For comparison

John Inverdale - 2089

Sale Sharks - 13, 278

George Riley - 20,498

Harelquins RU - 22, 121

RFU - 137,452

Clare Balding - 368,933

Manchester City FC 708,208

Cheryl Cole - 3,503, 859

Stephen Fry - 5,425121

Justin Bieber - 34,017,135

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Sam Tomkins and Sam Burgess have over 50000 Twitter followers each - considerably more than even their big name Australian/Kiwi rivals - other than SBW who has around 200000...

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And considerably more than read the RL columns in the national dailies. And that's a key point. Through Twitter the game is capable of reaching many more people than it ever could in the printed press. We just need a few high profle tweeters on board

Sunset Times Jones has only 7145 idiots following him.

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And considerably more than read the RL columns in the national dailies. And that's a key point. Through Twitter the game is capable of reaching many more people than it ever could in the printed press. We just need a few high profle tweeters on board

Sunset Times Jones has only 7145 idiots following him.

You reckon every tweet tweeted is read by every follower?

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