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SOS to Brian Barwick.....please help the London Broncos!

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no, just as not every RL column is read by every newspaper buyer.

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like a lot of companies/brands do these days, a twitter hijack day is a good way of creating more buzz and picking up new followers, for instance someone like Bradley Wiggins tweets on the RFL twitter account during a challenge cupgame, or play-off semi final.. or an England World cup game.. etc..

Social media is the way forward, unfortunately a very large majority of the RFL's target market still buy a daily paper and spend longer reading that than they do on things such as twitter..

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Wigan Warriors have 21375 followers

London Broncos have 5441 followers

Leigh have 3281 followers

Fax have 2787 followers

Fev have 1409 followers

Oldham - 923 followers

Swinton - 685 followers

Interesting that Broncos have (relatively speaking) so many followers, I wonder whether this is because a lot of folk in the north follow them because they like expansion or there is a fairly large potential support base that is not being tapped up.

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Money is part of the problem at London and as another poster said I would personally like to see them get a bigger share of the Sky money. Sadly Heartland clubs are to one eyed in most cases to agree to that.

They are too poor to agree to that.

Could Wakefield, Bradford or Salford really afford to agree to accept less TV money?

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They are too poor to agree to that.

Could Wakefield, Bradford or Salford really afford to agree to accept less TV money?

Ahem, we had to.

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Mark is doubtful of the other SL clubs supporting more help for London, but if we can go back to the end of 2011 didn't Mr. Hughes meet with the RFL and basically say he could not fund the club wholesale, and didn't the RFL make concessions in the area of the junior development which is what Viking Warrior says the RFL want most out of a professional club in London?.

At that time Mr. Hudgell was of the opinion if Mr. Hughes "walked" then London would have to be funded "centrally". Given Mr. Hughes has been reported as putting in a million a year if not more then come 2015 the RFL may indeed be faced with conceding £2M of the SKY money to London every year???

That may mean a drop back to 12 clubs in SL. HOWEVER that day has not come and this year and next is based on Mr. Hughes funding and running the first team at will because he's paying for it. I cannot see how or why the RFL would move before 2015 unless they themselves have a few million to spare?

Which they don't.

If the RFL wait until 2015 then it will be too late. They need to be involved whilst Dave Hughes is still prepared to pump 1.5million p/a into the team otherwise they'll be forced to cough up that amount and more on top. They also need to act before the moron in charge, Gus McKay, moves the club to Gillingham.

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'I knew nothing about the game but decided if you cannot beat them join them. We became friends – Nigel came racing with me and he fixed up for me to watch my local team St Helens. I have watched Grand Finals at Old Trafford.

I then said to Nigel if there was ever an opportunity to buy a club, let me know, because I could see what a great game rugby league was.

Before Christmas, he telephoned me and brought Salford to my attention. I realised the club’s potential and things started from there. I came back from holiday in Dubai and started the complex hard negotiations.'

Wonder if he was ever offerd a chance of ownership or a share of the Broncos?

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The brutal truth is that the club is a badly run club in a badly run sport that may have passed the point of no return.

As some would say I spend most of my time posting negativity on this forum let me point out those things the club has no control over :

Monday night v Leeds in August is a SKY TV commandment the club has no choice but to comply with.

Major Rugby Shirt manufacturers like Puma and ISC do not want to be involved with the club as they do not feel they would sell enough shirts.

Brian Noble has said he was offered a Super League coaching opportunity last year but the management of the unnamed club doubted his commitment to the role. In my personal opinion that club could well be London. Given the state the club';s in going for Tony Rea who is a loyal club man is better than going for a "name" coach that wants to spend the money that's not there.

No Cheerleaders is not the clubs way of ingratiating itself with the pious of Tower Hamlets but is a cost cutting measure.

What the club has done right

It has sponsors who perhaps while not paying much at least give the club a more authentic feel

Changing the name back to London Broncos

That's it.

If there is a Foreign millionare in the London area wanting to sink his millions into the club then I do have an idea as to how you can secure the bricks and mortar at reasonable cost to make Rugby League in the Capital more of a viable business proposition. And can state with certainty that if such a purchaser approached David Hughes then our current owner would gladly sell the club.

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'I knew nothing about the game but decided if you cannot beat them join them. We became friends – Nigel came racing with me and he fixed up for me to watch my local team St Helens. I have watched Grand Finals at Old Trafford.

I then said to Nigel if there was ever an opportunity to buy a club, let me know, because I could see what a great game rugby league was.

Before Christmas, he telephoned me and brought Salford to my attention. I realised the club’s potential and things started from there. I came back from holiday in Dubai and started the complex hard negotiations.'

Wonder if he was ever offerd a chance of ownership or a share of the Broncos?

Is the club up for sale? Difficult to offer a club to anyone if the owner isn't selling. Anyway hands off the good doctor

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The only way it would work is to give London a bigger slice of the Sky money, I mean an extra £1m per season, but I can't imagine the other clubs going for that. They also need some smart marketing to get people to games.

You mean the way the majority of the other 13 clubs voted to give London the 2013 and 2014 Sky money confiscated from Bradford, rather than divide it up amongst themselves?

Oh, hang on though...

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Is the club up for sale? Difficult to offer a club to anyone if the owner isn't selling. Anyway hands off the good doctor

It's difficult to tell if Hughes has a genuine desire to sell or is looking for shared investment. Does the good Doctor have a southern based wealthier brother you can point at broncos? ;)

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Playing so far away from where many amateur clubs are/have been based based like South London Storm, North London/Hemel/St.Albans etc hasnt helped them reap the rewards of working with the local amateur scene in London. and the failure of the Broncos/Quins to work with its current fan base let alone working with potential new fans.

Do the Broncos do anything to attract all these amateur/semi-pro London & District RL clubs players & fans to watch their SL games ?

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Anyone know how much Hughes has put in over the years? Would it not have been better to buy a ground when he first started backing the club? Similarly if he plans to put in 1M over the next 10 years, is it not better to buy a stadium?

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Do the Broncos do anything to attract all these amateur/semi-pro London & District RL clubs players & fans to watch their SL games ?

I believe that they have tried in the past but had little success. Probably people only pay to watch RL when they have finished playing it.

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That post is a fair assessment but it seems to me to be wrong that London are not in danger because of their attendances but potential SL applicants have to demonstrate a pre set level of attendances when they are not yet even in SL. I think the crowd criterium should be removed from licence applications.

I've always said that.

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'I knew nothing about the game but decided if you cannot beat them join them. We became friends – Nigel came racing with me and he fixed up for me to watch my local team St Helens. I have watched Grand Finals at Old Trafford.

I then said to Nigel if there was ever an opportunity to buy a club, let me know, because I could see what a great game rugby league was.

Before Christmas, he telephoned me and brought Salford to my attention. I realised the club’s potential and things started from there. I came back from holiday in Dubai and started the complex hard negotiations.'

Wonder if he was ever offerd a chance of ownership or a share of the Broncos?

Or Bradford, it's not like our plight wasn't all over the news.

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I suspect that he probably was offered both clubs but Broncos probably involved spending to much cash for someone who doesn't want to be a sugar daddy and Bradford is not a sufficiently fashionable location.

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I suspect that he probably was offered both clubs but Broncos probably involved spending to much cash for someone who doesn't want to be a sugar daddy and Bradford is not a sufficiently fashionable location.

With all due respect and I think most know my views on the Bulls, Salford is a more fashionable location than Bradford, well I am surprised.

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You shouldn't be, it is in the Manchester conurbation. Few outside the UK have heard of Salford but almost everybody in the world has heard of Manchester.

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RL and the Broncos are pretty active on twitter.

The southern RL journalists are generally positive and talk up the game unlike their northern equivalents who seem to spend their entire time watching other sports and saying things like, "Watching the Super Bowl really shows how little ambition #rugbyleague has".

Or 'watching the darts tonight, a sell out 8000 crowd. Its great etc' 8K? That's a big crowd now is it?

That and speedway are just about the only upbeat things I have seen this guy tweet.

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You shouldn't be, it is in the Manchester conurbation. Few outside the UK have heard of Salford but almost everybody in the world has heard of Manchester.

A friend of mine met a girl from Salford and wnet there to see her. I tried to warn him but he went anyway and three people were shot and killed in a pub just around the corner. Very fashionable.

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You shouldn't be, it is in the Manchester conurbation. Few outside the UK have heard of Salford but almost everybody in the world has heard of Manchester.

A fair few Smiths fans will know of Salford. :rolleyes:

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A friend of mine met a girl from Salford and wnet there to see her. I tried to warn him but he went anyway and three people were shot and killed in a pub just around the corner. Very fashionable.

Thank God stuff like that doesn't happen in Bratfut.

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The game generally is doing okay down here, but the club is going backwards.

I missed the game on sunday because my mrs had arranged a visit to her mum. I mean, I could have put my foot down and insisted seeing as it was the first game of the season but in the end I decided I didn't want to have that argument only to then get to the Stoop and be disappointed by the club's efforts. Glad I didn't go as it turns out because apparently they overcharged for concessions tickets, the club shop ran out of stock (on day 1!), there was no food on offer at half time, promised free tickets never materialised, the free foam hands were laid out in the away fans section, and the CEO was running around after the gates had opened stacking shelves and putting up bunting. And then the team lost.

Two or three years ago a group of Quins RL / Broncos fans on here were slaughterign the club for it performance. If anything, things have deteriorated. Honestly, if the RFL wants a team down here then they've got to get involved themselves and actually do something about it.

Just to add to the above list, it turns out that it's now cheaper for away fans to use the Legends Lounge than Broncos supporters. A match ticket including access to the lounge costs GBP40, but if you have a season ticket you still have to pay the GBP40 even though you already have a ticket for the game. Nice to see the club looking after the people who have stuck with the club through thick and thin. And more thin.

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I suspect that he probably was offered both clubs but Broncos probably involved spending to much cash for someone who doesn't want to be a sugar daddy and Bradford is not a sufficiently fashionable location.

Doesn't he live in Liverpool? Perhaps he just wanted to stay local and/or his horses are trained in the North West.

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