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DANNY BAKERS GREAT ALBUM SHOWDOWN

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Of course him having famous mates is everything to do with it - they were the ones putting it out all over twitter (and gingerjon ;) )

Guy gets threatened with losing his job.....happens to people everyday. We don't all have the luxury of ranting about it on the radio to show how indispensable we are.

I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say people would have heard about it even without his famous mates.

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So, Johnoco, you're castigating someone who had a whimsical music show on Radio London for not standing up for Rugby League commentary on other local stations and for the dreadful crime of knowing other people in his line of work?

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I can't get Radio London (well, I can online) so why do I get to hear about it? I didn't hear him kicking off about the chance of RL being cut from our local radio...perhaps he's more important what with having famous mates and all that.

Oddly, given that he's from Millwall, I haven't seen mention rugby league much. I have seen - and heard - plenty of people who will lose a salary because of it complain about rugby league disappearing from local radio and newspapers.

Are they arrogant? I mean, plenty of people lose their jobs and don't complain. All they're doing is yakking on about a minority interest - lucky to have got paid for it at all really.

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So, Johnoco, you're castigating someone who had a whimsical music show on Radio London for not standing up for Rugby League commentary on other local stations and for the dreadful crime of knowing other people in his line of work?

Not really as I don't really have anything against him, just pointing out that while Radio London may be a big deal to him (or Londoners) it means jack to me. So why do I get to hear all about his concerns yet others get short shrift? Because he/it is more important?

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Oddly, given that he's from Millwall, I haven't seen mention rugby league much. I have seen - and heard - plenty of people who will lose a salary because of it complain about rugby league disappearing from local radio and newspapers.

Are they arrogant? I mean, plenty of people lose their jobs and don't complain. All they're doing is yakking on about a minority interest - lucky to have got paid for it at all really.

I don't recall anyone getting so much publicity for a rant on a local BBC station before..do you?

As for the RL bit, it was just an analogy not that I expect him to talk about it.

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Danny Baker is one of those professional cockneys who thinks if you're not a member of the Groucho Club, you might as well live in Outer Mongolia.

:dry:

When Baker does Ska & Reggae, let's hope somebody picks this. He's more of a whiner: -

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I don't recall anyone getting so much publicity for a rant on a local BBC station before..do you?

As for the RL bit, it was just an analogy not that I expect him to talk about it.

He only found out his show was being axed on the tube, going into work, and not from the station, either. Presenters don't tend to be told 'til after their show's finished, otherwise we get what we got with Baker's final show.

There was a presenter at Heart or Magic FM (one of those, I think) who found out his show had been cancelled because he'd escorted a guest out to the car park during a news/weather break, only to find he couldn't get back in the building, as the station had already cancelled his security access card.

What's happening to Radio London either is already happening to other BBC local stations. If it hasn't happened yet, it almost certainly will.

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Of course him having famous mates is everything to do with it - they were the ones putting it out all over twitter (and gingerjon ;) )

Guy gets threatened with losing his job.....happens to people everyday. We don't all have the luxury of ranting about it on the radio to show how indispensable we are.

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To quote Martin Kelner -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/dec/30/screen-break-16-years-tv-pull-plug

Frankly, though, I never contemplated a Danny Baker-style valediction. I thought his recent sign-off from BBC London, while unerring in its analysis, was in rather poor taste. Coming as Comet announced imminent closure and local councils in the north faced massive, possibly irreparable, cuts in budget, his protracted burble about the axing of his radio show was de trop (enough already). Danny is undoubtedly a fine broadcaster and writer but that day he came across as a self-regarding ######

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To quote Martin Kelner -

http://www.guardian....rs-tv-pull-plug

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I like Kelner, but I read that at the time, and disagreed.

And, to be relevant to TRL, part of the swingeing cuts to local radio will include Rugby League commentary, if something isn't done to save it.

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Kelner and Baker must have fought over a girl at some point as Martin has had a go at Danny a few times whilst I've been listening/reading his stuff.

I haven't heard Kelner's latest on Radio Leeds but looking at the shoutouts on twitter for it it does look like a generic phone-in.

Which is a waste of his talent - so I hope it pays well.

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Incidentally, I caught a bit of the programme and thought it was a bit ######.

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anyway this thread was about rock music not the twerps that play it, so my three albums are.

the who live at leeds.

floyd, wish you were here.

radiohead,the bends

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I haven't heard Kelner's latest on Radio Leeds but looking at the shoutouts on twitter for it it does look like a generic phone-in.

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It fulfills the Radio Leeds listeners' primary requirement .... that it doesn't feature Liz Green.

Unfortunately, the station has moved her to its Breakfast Show. So she's up against Chris Evans. I now know that Real Radio isn't so bad once you've got used to the adverts. Well it is bad, but it's better than the alternative and my van's CD player won't work till the engine's warmed up ... so much for German efficiency; Vorsprung Durch Rubbish Electrics.

I live in mortal fear of being a Radio 4 listener. Final nail in the young-at-heart's coffin.

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I've a fiver on the quote "when R&B actually meant rhythm and blues, unlike today's supposed 'R&B'..."

Clarkson was only a guest on the first programme, you know... ;)

It might be interesting to see the selections, as the majority of soul music was single-based, rather than album-based, Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder excepted.

Well, it really depends how you define 'soul'. For example, disco - as maligned as it is - was responsible for some genuinely good, and rather obscure albums. The whole "Philly Soul" era threw up some decent albums as well, from people like MFSB. You could also throw in "contemporary R&B" (as '80s soul was often described at the time, ditto boogie and what we now call 'rare groove') and neo-soul, though that was a bit later.

I have to admit I agree with some of Baker's points regarding the genius of the vinyl LP. Although I grew up at the tail-end of the vinyl era, I have spent the last 20 years furiously buying up old and new albums, 12" singles etc - not just for DJing purposes, but also because I love the feel, smell, sound and look of vinyl. I have stacks of CDs - some bought, others promos from years of music hackery - but I rarely listen to them. I do reach for the vinyl LPs a lot though.

I'm interested to hear what 'pop' selections they put in. I'd hazard a guess at "Pet Sounds" being in there, with good reason. The production is stupendous. Any idea who is joining Danny to talk 'pop' tonight? It was nice to see Stephen Street in there last night. A good pop producer (1980s vintage - e.g Trevor Horn) would be a good selection for the panel.

I was genuinely surprised last night that Clarkson wasn't as big a buffoon as I'd expected him to be. That said, a part of me died when he said he embraced punk… it's just wrong!

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I said R&B cos that's what the sky planner blurb said, guests are Martin Freeman, Mica Paris and Trevor Nelson.

Tonight is Boy George, Grace Dent and David Hepworth.

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I'm interested to hear what 'pop' selections they put in. I'd hazard a guess at "Pet Sounds" being in there, with good reason. The production is stupendous. Any idea who is joining Danny to talk 'pop' tonight? It was nice to see Stephen Street in there last night. A good pop producer (1980s vintage - e.g Trevor Horn) would be a good selection for the panel.

Grace Dent, Boy George and David Hepworth for tonight's panel. Not as familiar with Dent as some, but the other two are opinionated, knowledgable and usually entertaining.

As for Clarkson, he wasn't performing his professional 'Top Gear' berk character, and his honest enjoyment of music shone through.

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It fulfills the Radio Leeds listeners' primary requirement .... that it doesn't feature Liz Green.

Good old Liz!

"We're having a carpet disco.............."

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Good old Liz!

"We're having a carpet disco.............."

She'd be a ten-past-two-er

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I have to say that as someone who grew up in the 90s as part of the CD generation I actually found last night's show quite interesting really. Probably would suit a radio show better, but I've watched far worse music discussion shows.

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I have to say that as someone who grew up in the 90s as part of the CD generation I actually found last night's show quite interesting really. Probably would suit a radio show better, but I've watched far worse music discussion shows.

Album art would be lost on it though.

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Album art would be lost on it though.

Yeah, although they discussed a lot of album art last night without showing it annoyingly. Not the best use of the medium

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Yeah, although they discussed a lot of album art last night without showing it annoyingly. Not the best use of the medium

That'll be the BBC Four budget.

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That's a bit ungallant.

Oh, I'd gladly step aside and let you do the honours.

I'm sure she'd think the same about me anyway.

:D

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