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What is the latest on Wakey and Cas' new stadiums?

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Are they on track for the next round of licensing?

To the best of my knowledge, Cas are currently looking at an alternative plan of staying at Wheldon Road and developing the stadium. As with the potential move to Glasshoughton, funding is probably going to be the major obstacle. Wakey are currently working through the planning issues, with the aim of the stadium being ready to start the 2015 season.

If anyone knows more than me (wouldn't be difficult tbh :lol:), then I'm happy to stand corrected. ;)

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theres not going to be another round of licences...

Correct.

I have it on good authority from a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend who heard it in a pub that the RFL will be selling 14 franchises to the highest 14 bidders.

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theres not going to be another round of licences...

That seems to be the general consensus and if they fully implement Maurice Watkins' recommendations then licensing in its current form will be scrapped.

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Following on from the Salford situation,will Wakefield own their new ground or at least be able to generate extra income from the catering/corporate facilities etc - i.e. will the new ground be viable?

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Apparently a club nearby will have its 'new' ground ready for the next round of licences.

Who's that then?

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That seems to be the general consensus and if they fully implement Maurice Watkins' recommendations then licensing in its current form will be scrapped.

Topic drift, I know, but...

Here is Watkin's review dated July 2012: http://www.therfl.co...tkinsReview.pdf

Some extracts and one question. Do you know if the recommendation 16 B on page 12 (The RFL Chief Executive immediately lead a review into the current RFL policies on...

...Super League Licensing and Promotion/Relegation).been carried out and if so, are there any published results? If not, will it be carried out and in what timescale?

Extracts

It is important to stress at the outset that this is a review of the sport’s governance structure. It is not a review of strategy and policy or executive performance.....In respect of key findings it would be fair to say that there is complete respect for the concept of the independence of the RFL Board and a unanimous assessment that this is hugely beneficial. Those with longer memories can recall the unsatisfactory position of clubs sitting in judgement on other clubs and are anxious not to return to those days....

Looking Ahead

16. The RFL Chief Executive immediately lead a review into the current RFL policies on:

a) Competition structures and game integration.

b Super League Licensing and Promotion/Relegation.

c) Club sustainability and the appropriate level of RFL support for clubs.

d) Youth development and player production systems.

e) Expansion of the sport and RFL’s responsibility for European development

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Topic drift, I know, but...

Here is Watkin's review dated July 2012: http://www.therfl.co...tkinsReview.pdf

Some extracts and one question. Do you know if the recommendation 16 B on page 12 (The RFL Chief Executive immediately lead a review into the current RFL policies on...

...Super League Licensing and Promotion/Relegation).been carried out and if so, are there any published results? If not, will it be carried out and in what timescale?

Extracts

It is important to stress at the outset that this is a review of the sport’s governance structure. It is not a review of strategy and policy or executive performance.....In respect of key findings it would be fair to say that there is complete respect for the concept of the independence of the RFL Board and a unanimous assessment that this is hugely beneficial. Those with longer memories can recall the unsatisfactory position of clubs sitting in judgement on other clubs and are anxious not to return to those days....

Looking Ahead

16. The RFL Chief Executive immediately lead a review into the current RFL policies on:

a) Competition structures and game integration.

b Super League Licensing and Promotion/Relegation.

c) Club sustainability and the appropriate level of RFL support for clubs.

d) Youth development and player production systems.

e) Expansion of the sport and RFL’s responsibility for European development

Looking ahead (d) the RFL have withdrawn even more development funding from championship clubs, at the end of this month Doncaster are laying off 2 of their 3 (not sure about Paul Cooke)

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Apparently a club nearby will have its 'new' ground ready for the next round of licences.

I really hope the review advocates a return to P&R Terry, even if we are best place to secure a licence.

I am so glad the whole process is subject to review and that that review is carried out with absolute transparency.

Of course, a review may suggest retaining the status quo.... we'll see.

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But is the review actually taking place and if so who is doing it and when will the recommendations be published?

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But is the review actually taking place and if so who is doing it and when will the recommendations be published?

Dunno, Dunno and hopefully!

I remember feeling quite enthused when the first suggestion that licencing/P&R was to be reviewed then becoming a little dismayed that so far, no apparent action has been taken thus far. We will see....

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That seems to be the general consensus and if they fully implement Maurice Watkins' recommendations then licensing in its current form will be scrapped.

5 year cycle?

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P&R v licensing thread here we go then.

I fully expect that by the next time I log-in, this thread will be up to page 13 and the last poster will be either keighley or The Parksider.

Before it does, any comments on the original question?

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theres loads of comments on the original question.........theres not going to be another round of licencing.....so don't worry about it

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Are they on track for the next round of licensing?

Wakey, maybe. Cas no, never.

Cas seem to have admitted that it was only ever a pipe dream of Mr Wright's and are looking to redevelop the WC.

Wakey have pretty much all of the planning in place, but there is some clause that requires a certain % of the wider development to be built and let before stadium construction begins.

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theres loads of comments on the original question.........theres not going to be another round of licencing.....so don't worry about it

Apparently the Fax Bod are only bothered about finishing in the top six this year. Now read into that what you will, but changes to the league structures could be ready to be changed.

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1.P&R v licensing thread here we go then.

2. I fully expect that by the next time I log-in, this thread will be up to page 13 and the last poster will be either keighley or The Parksider.

3. Before it does, any comments on the original question?

1. It's not about P & R it's about the grounds.

2. I fully expect a stupid crack from you in any thread. You have not disappointed.

3. As for the grounds I again passed Newmarket only last week and nothing has happened. At least up at Glasshoughton they put a hoarding up advertising the coal mine muck heap as the site of Cas's new stadium. They could not even manage this at Newmarket.

I suspect given the tin roof and patching up at Belle vue and equal plans for patching up Wheldon Road, we'll have three tired old grounds tarted up to give three tired old clubs another go to be "super"

How about a merger thread Browny?

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But is the review actually taking place and if so who is doing it and when will the recommendations be published?

Yes, an external consultant and not sure. Clubs have been consulted and asked for their thoughts on various proposals though.

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But is the review actually taking place and if so who is doing it and when will the recommendations be published?

Thanks for the Watkins report, it seemed the review he undertook and the recommendation he made from that, was for someone to launch a review and make some recommendations :wacko:

Hope he was paid well for that.

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Should be some news soon on the progress of Newmarket (unfortunately no time scale), detailed planning is yet to be submitted but this is expected to be done so by May, heard whispers that work will begin in May (ground works etc). The developer is confident that the stadium will be ready for 2015.

Trinity will not own the stadium, the Wakefield and District Community Trust will lease the stadium for peppercorn rent from the developers I believe, who then will lease the stadium to Trinity, who will be the anchor tenant. It is open for any other sports team in the district t to use.

Re Cas, the enabling development for Glasshoughton was a Supermarket on WR, this changed to the Neslte site a little closer in to town. They are still looking at doing this but the development is going to fund the redevelopment of the existing Cas ground rather than Glasshoughton.

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Should be some news soon on the progress of Newmarket (unfortunately no time scale), detailed planning is yet to be submitted but this is expected to be done so by May, heard whispers that work will begin in May (ground works etc). The developer is confident that the stadium will be ready for 2015.

Trinity will not own the stadium, the Wakefield and District Community Trust will lease the stadium for peppercorn rent from the developers I believe, who then will lease the stadium to Trinity, who will be the anchor tenant. It is open for any other sports team in the district t to use.

Re Cas, the enabling development for Glasshoughton was a Supermarket on WR, this changed to the Neslte site a little closer in to town. They are still looking at doing this but the development is going to fund the redevelopment of the existing Cas ground rather than Glasshoughton.

Will Trinity get revenue from the bars and food outlets or willl that all go to the Council?

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Will Trinity get revenue from the bars and food outlets or willl that all go to the Council?

The Council will not own the stadium, as for the revenue I'm not sure. At the moment Trinity do not own Belle Vue but they do keep all the revenue generated from food/drink sales so as the organisation running the stadium are a not for profit, rugby league friendly outfit I imaging there will be an agreement similar to this.

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