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Rugby league in Aussie doping scandal

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The British on here think they can mock, but drugs have been in use in the british game as well as other activities including alleged Match Fixing involving top British teams in other sports. Instead of laughing and pointing fingers we should be concerned as it could weaken our game big time. The problems announced cover many sports. 40 Million dollars alone from Asia were recently put on an A League game for example. Many "Specialists" have worked with clubs from various sports from Union to league to Soccer to AFL. I think it will come out that all sports will be tainted whether it be drugs or match fixing etc. There is already investigations into AFL teams deliberately losing even before this came out.

The money on offer to cheat/throw games is huge and sadly people are weak. We have seen the lengths that people will go to with Armstrong to win-even destroying others careers if they try and speak out. This is not a RL problem its a sporting and social problem. This is not just an Australian problem neither. The recent revelations in European Soccer and no doubt in most sports is out there. Most of the time its covered up or ignored. Then all of a sudden a ripple effect shows how corrupt our society is. RL is not innocent but I doubt anybody can point fingers at our sport as I am certain that their own sport is just as bad or even worse. The game and sport now has the chance to do something about it. Lets just see how things are done.

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I can't see anyone laughing or pointing fingers though. We are all concerned of the damage it may do...but we have been told how rubbish we are for so long by the Aussies, is it any wonder some people are maybe saying...'hang on...'.?

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The British on here think they can mock, but drugs have been in use in the british game as well as other activities including alleged Match Fixing involving top British teams in other sports. Instead of laughing and pointing fingers we should be concerned as it could weaken our game big time. The problems announced cover many sports. 40 Million dollars alone from Asia were recently put on an A League game for example. Many "Specialists" have worked with clubs from various sports from Union to league to Soccer to AFL. I think it will come out that all sports will be tainted whether it be drugs or match fixing etc. There is already investigations into AFL teams deliberately losing even before this came out.

The money on offer to cheat/throw games is huge and sadly people are weak. We have seen the lengths that people will go to with Armstrong to win-even destroying others careers if they try and speak out. This is not a RL problem its a sporting and social problem. This is not just an Australian problem neither. The recent revelations in European Soccer and no doubt in most sports is out there. Most of the time its covered up or ignored. Then all of a sudden a ripple effect shows how corrupt our society is. RL is not innocent but I doubt anybody can point fingers at our sport as I am certain that their own sport is just as bad or even worse. The game and sport now has the chance to do something about it. Lets just see how things are done.

LRL No one is laughing or mocking and the focus seems to be on how this could tarnish the sport in general the WC

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The British on here think they can mock, but drugs have been in use in the british game as well as other activities including alleged Match Fixing involving top British teams in other sports. Instead of laughing and pointing fingers we should be concerned as it could weaken our game big time.

the drug issue in australian sport is of their own making...for years they've brushed it under the carpet,dealt this issues "in house" and have a absolutely shocking stance on recreational drugs......according to a caller ringing in to a syndey radio station last night its no secret "sports stars" enjoy getting twisted on piils/coke on a night out......all that has led to where they are today......whats sad is last week alot of australians,fans, journalists,etc...printed with some glee that british clubs are about to step off a financial cliff.........well our cliff is the size of a door step compared to what the australians face if this drug scandal is as big as it appears...it could set them back 30 years imo

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The British on here think they can mock, but drugs have been in use in the british game as well as other activities including alleged Match Fixing involving top British teams in other sports. Instead of laughing and pointing fingers we should be concerned as it could weaken our game big time. The problems announced cover many sports. 40 Million dollars alone from Asia were recently put on an A League game for example. Many "Specialists" have worked with clubs from various sports from Union to league to Soccer to AFL. I think it will come out that all sports will be tainted whether it be drugs or match fixing etc. There is already investigations into AFL teams deliberately losing even before this came out.

The money on offer to cheat/throw games is huge and sadly people are weak. We have seen the lengths that people will go to with Armstrong to win-even destroying others careers if they try and speak out. This is not a RL problem its a sporting and social problem. This is not just an Australian problem neither. The recent revelations in European Soccer and no doubt in most sports is out there. Most of the time its covered up or ignored. Then all of a sudden a ripple effect shows how corrupt our society is. RL is not innocent but I doubt anybody can point fingers at our sport as I am certain that their own sport is just as bad or even worse. The game and sport now has the chance to do something about it. Lets just see how things are done.

I don't think anyone is mocking - I'm genuinely worried that there's a shtstorm heading our way. I'm also not so wet behind the ears that I don't look at some players and think: hang on. But I'd be surprised if anything as systemic was happening in rugby league over here (less surprised for other UK sports) as, frankly, it's expensive relative to the rewards. I would be less surprised to hear that British-based players had connections with gamblers.

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damn right im worried......it could ruin the world cup and destroy the prospect of us getting the blue chip sponsors on board...

the NRL is already facing losing $100million off telstra

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Australia Reacts

It seems that Aussie Rules and RL are in the spotlight for doping, but several sports with a bigger international profile - like soccer and tennis - are connected to match fixing.

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That said, the A League guy was quick to say it wasn't them.

Well, it is only major sports that are involved...

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No mention of RU, but I guess you only have to take drugs to watch that!

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stimulants to keep you awake................

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even after the wake up call the ARLC have had today i seriously doubt they will let the RFL,who are running the world cup on behalf of the RLIF, drug test everyone at the world cup...

I would disagree with you on this one. I would hope and think that the ARLC would let their players be tested to to prove that they are clean. If they refuse drugs tests then questions will be raised as to why the ARLC don't want their players tested

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Most Aussie AFL and NRL stars are not household names in the UK - the cricketers, tennis players, swimmers, athletics stars, and even possibly Union players, are more well known.

So, if say 20 people are found guilty, and it's spread evenly across all sports, the odds are that the UK press will focus on the sportsmen they know.

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Posted · Hidden by ckn, February 8, 2013 - No reason given

Stephen Jones has just been reported dead

Apparently he drowned in his own jiz

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The sad thing is that this isn't completely a surprise after the Aussies constant refusal to sign up to doping regulations for international competitions with lines flimsy excuses lines (I remember one particular whing about the doctors being worried about what to prescribe if the players caught a cold).

You can bet that this is going to come up in the media as soon as we get closer to the world cup.

Can the RLIF do something now to try an pre-empt this. Might forcing all the countries involved in the world cup to sign up now be a solution. Could they enforce testing on the main squads from now?

I worry this could tarnish the world cup

It could also give England a fighting chance if the Australians are competing on a level playing field minus their ped s.

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Posted · Hidden by ckn, February 8, 2013 - No reason given

Stephen Jones has just been reported dead

Apparently he drowned in his own jiz

not in the greatest taste

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Fortunately the RFL and the clubs are too shambilically organised to get away with large scale doping

Individual players almost certainly

Please don't let your childish obsession with the "shambolic" RFL get in the way of the truth.

The RFL run one of the toughest testing regimes in British sport. Jamie peacock for example was randomly tested less than a week ago.

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Posted · Hidden by ckn, February 8, 2013 - No reason given

not in the greatest taste

Sorry if you find it hard to swallow but it's called humor

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Posted · Hidden by ckn, February 8, 2013 - No reason given

not in the greatest taste

I heard if you eat pineapple it can improve it though

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Please nobody be under any illusion,drug misuse is rife in our pro game and amateur game. One of the major problems is that many of the newer drugs do not show up in the current testing procedure,and the Rfl know this.our anti doping system is so poorly funded there is no way can it be effective.

If you know what to look for there are many physical signs when a person takes certain drugs,but is very difficult to prove it.

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I'm under no illusions that there will be players in our sport that take drugs, whether recreational or performance enhancing. But the RFL are very stringent with their testing, and if it was so poorly funded and unable to detect new drugs then how was Terry Newton the first sports person to test positive for HGH?

There are always new drugs being created, some of those mentioned in this Aussie sport scandal are not even approved for use on humans, but people will try to find the extra edge or something new to get an extra 1% out of their performance. It takes time for new drugs to get on to the banned lists, those creating them are always one step ahead.

There is no way we can ever get any sport 100% clean, but im happy with the efforts that the RFL put into drug testing, and just following a number of players on twitter makes you realise how often random tests are performed! As mentioned, Jamie Peacock was tested last week, he couldnt pee immediately so he, his son, and the drugs tester sat and watched tv for over an hour together before he could provide his sample!

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I'm under no illusions that there will be players in our sport that take drugs, whether recreational or performance enhancing. But the RFL are very stringent with their testing, and if it was so poorly funded and unable to detect new drugs then how was Terry Newton the first sports person to test positive for HGH?

There are always new drugs being created, some of those mentioned in this Aussie sport scandal are not even approved for use on humans, but people will try to find the extra edge or something new to get an extra 1% out of their performance. It takes time for new drugs to get on to the banned lists, those creating them are always one step ahead.

There is no way we can ever get any sport 100% clean, but im happy with the efforts that the RFL put into drug testing, and just following a number of players on twitter makes you realise how often random tests are performed! As mentioned, Jamie Peacock was tested last week, he couldnt pee immediately so he, his son, and the drugs tester sat and watched tv for over an hour together before he could provide his sample!

you don't need to be Einstein to use growth and not get caught,it only shows in urine for 24 hours,then it has to be tested for in blood testing,even then it can be masked by taking other things along side it .this is we're the RFls testing regime fails.also quite often the testers arrival is often known in advance.

Occasionally a player will get caught,but very few do for obvious reasons.

As for Jamie peacock his physique shows there is no misuse going on to anybody that knows what there looking for.

Don't forget he his a Rfl ambassador for the game,more Rfl spin going on ,don't ya think.

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Please nobody be under any illusion,drug misuse is rife in our pro game and amateur game. One of the major problems is that many of the newer drugs do not show up in the current testing procedure,and the Rfl know this.our anti doping system is so poorly funded there is no way can it be effective.

If you know what to look for there are many physical signs when a person takes certain drugs,but is very difficult to prove it.

I would say it's more rife in the amateur game.

The RFL have a decent testing system and is probably one of the better ones outside of the Olympics sports. There will be players doing it, and there are ways of reducing risks of being caught. However, to really get a 99.99% clean sport would require massive amounts of money and inconvenience.

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