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10/02/13 - Castleford Tigers v Leeds Rhinos - KO 3.30pm

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From where I was this is what happened: Cas had the ball, Chase kicked through and ran straight in to JJB who did not move from his original position, Chase hit the deck, lost his bottle at not getting a penalty, got straight up and steamed across as fast as he could and jumped up leading with the elbow into Zak Hardakers face.

Hahaha this is classic rhinos, it seems all the refs n all the Leeds players (from there reaction) all must of seen the incident as legal.

This is getting blown out of proportion again n im sure hetherington will be on to his mates at the RFL and no dowt they will do as he asks n ban chase.

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Hahaha this is classic rhinos, it seems all the refs n all the Leeds players (from there reaction) all must of seen the incident as legal.

This is getting blown out of proportion again n im sure hetherington will be on to his mates at the RFL and no dowt they will do as he asks n ban chase.

if the ref and Leeds players have seen the incident as legal,what are you going on about.

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if the ref and Leeds players have seen the incident as legal,what are you going on about.

Haha, thats what I was thinking! What a bizarre comment!

I dont think anything has been blown out of proportion, it seems Rangi has now been charged by the RFL implying that in fact there may have been something in the incident. From my position behind the sticks it looked like it was a high shot, and a potentially bad one at that. That was my opinion at the time and ive seen nothing to change that since.

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My point been that all the refs n players all fought it was a fair challenge (legal) but the Leeds fans all think it was an illegal challenge, biased maybe?

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My point been that all the refs n players all fought it was a fair challenge (legal) but the Leeds fans all think it was an illegal challenge, biased maybe?

Zak Hardaker didn't and neither did the disciplinary committee. Are you biased because you think there was nothing in the challenge?

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Possibly, iv posted a picture of point of impact to zak hardakers twitter decide for yourself from that picture not from the previous one someone posted after impact.

Ps if someone is better on computers than me can you please post my picture on here as I cant manage it

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My point been that all the refs n players all fought it was a fair challenge (legal) but the Leeds fans all think it was an illegal challenge, biased maybe?

All the refs and players fighting eh. The biff is back with a vengeance!

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All the refs and players fighting eh. The biff is back with a vengeance!

damn I thought id got away with it ;)

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Ps if someone is better on computers than me can you please post my picture on here as I cant manage it

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Running in and a miss timed tackle - international team mate on mate!!

Sorry but rangi is nothing but a thug, I hope the RFL ban him for a long time.

No one in the right mind can defend him, I'm glad Zak is ok, rangi is a joke.......AGAIN!!

. His hot head is really going to get someone hurt...... I mean really hurt.

If this was a wire player I'd be saying the same thing, no place in our game with these poorly timed and dirty attempts of tackling.

Example of my thoughts on a wire was Westwood on a Catalan player 5/6 years ago.

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from that angle it looks like he hits him fairly with his left shoulder, then his right arm flies up after the impact......perhaps why everyone things it's an elbow but no contact appears to be made with that arm

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Very good player is Chase, the slippery ###### does like to play the hard bloke then get back to his proper position at 5/8 to hide behind his pack. I'm not judging him purely on this incident, but he constantly plays dirty tricks in the tackle and in the ruck. Having played back row myself, i'm well aware of sly digs and tricks in the ruck, and I wasn't whiter than white. But my point is that if you can't handle the roughness don't pretend you're a rough old style front rower.

I must say though, and I know there is a thread on this subject that I'm not too displeased there have been a few examples of old style biff and that gubbins this week (minus the Bousquet example of course). Do the RL public think an old style enforcer in each team would be welcome back?

One more thing....He's been charged for a reckless challenge...the bloke ran around 20 mtrs to put in an effort which clearly had INTENT...Now, reckless? does that not suggest it was, say a wee bit ill timed for example???? As I saw it from my vantage point, it was clearly an effort of retribution, but a clean shoulder shot, but having seen it again it looks much worse. Apart from the fact that he seemed to have been playing like a mardy kid who'd had his lolly taken off him in the second half, I'm not sure why he was so incenced. Looks to me, rather than being taken out looked like he ran straight at JJ Buchanan in the seconds leading up to it.

One match ban and let's forget about it and look forward to another great weeks action

Errors apart great game though and well done Cas.

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Very good player is Chase, the slippery ###### does like to play the hard bloke then get back to his proper position at 5/8 to hide behind his pack. I'm not judging him purely on this incident, but he constantly plays dirty tricks in the tackle and in the ruck. Having played back row myself, i'm well aware of sly digs and tricks in the ruck, and I wasn't whiter than white. But my point is that if you can't handle the roughness don't pretend you're a rough old style front rower.

I must say though, and I know there is a thread on this subject that I'm not too displeased there have been a few examples of old style biff and that gubbins this week (minus the Bousquet example of course). Do the RL public think an old style enforcer in each team would be welcome back?

One more thing....He's been charged for a reckless challenge...the bloke ran around 20 mtrs to put in an effort which clearly had INTENT...Now, reckless? does that not suggest it was, say a wee bit ill timed for example???? As I saw it from my vantage point, it was clearly an effort of retribution, but a clean shoulder shot, but having seen it again it looks much worse. Apart from the fact that he seemed to have been playing like a mardy kid who'd had his lolly taken off him in the second half, I'm not sure why he was so incenced. Looks to me, rather than being taken out looked like he ran straight at JJ Buchanan in the seconds leading up to it.

One match ban and let's forget about it and look forward to another great weeks action

Errors apart great game though and well done Cas.

Agreed, although after the first line all I could think of was Ryan Bailey.

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Running in and a miss timed tackle - international team mate on mate!!

Sorry but rangi is nothing but a thug, I hope the RFL ban him for a long time.

No one in the right mind can defend him, I'm glad Zak is ok, rangi is a joke.......AGAIN!!

. His hot head is really going to get someone hurt...... I mean really hurt.

If this was a wire player I'd be saying the same thing, no place in our game with these poorly timed and dirty attempts of tackling.

Example of my thoughts on a wire was Westwood on a Catalan player 5/6 years ago.

you said it was mistimed and then call him a thug - which is it?

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you said it was mistimed and then call him a thug - which is it?

They're not mutually exclusive

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Agreed, although after the first line all I could think of was Ryan Bailey.

Haha good point well put, last season he did seem to go missing when it got tough less than previous years but yes agreed he's no Barrie mac or even that yob skerret

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They're not mutually exclusive

agreed - but the first line of his post seems to say that he ran in and miss timed a tackle on an international team mate. Making him a thug.

If Rangi stirred a cup of tea too vigorously he'd be branded a thug by most

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Looks like Leeds had to put so much effort in to beat Hull the previous weekend they had nothing left against Cas.

Understandable.

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Can someone answer me a simple question, has it always been illegal to make contact with the head of an opponent?

Nick Fozzard on twitter has said that it used to be legal to make contact with the shoulder on an opponents head. Sean Long appears to agree saying "Its that new rule where contact with the head is now illegal!"

Am I going insane?!

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Can someone answer me a simple question, has it always been illegal to make contact with the head of an opponent?

Nick Fozzard on twitter has said that it used to be legal to make contact with the shoulder on an opponents head. Sean Long appears to agree saying "Its that new rule where contact with the head is now illegal!"

Am I going insane?!

ive never been aware of this being allowed. Players and past players arent always great with rules or their memories tbh.

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errmm, it's Fozzard and Longy.....nuff said

Thought that myself! But having started to question my own sanity thought I best check i hadnt completely missed a fairly important rule in the game!

He's not replying to me now. Just irked me that he was saying that a shoulder to the head in a tackle used to be legal!

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Can someone post the picture that was in the paper today that shows zak falling into the tackle, rangis feet on the floor and rangis elbow nowhere near zaks chin as zak said on twitter. The picture is taken from behind rangi n is the best view iv seen so far.

Im told still photos cant be used by the panel only video if thats right they only have the one side view video to go off.

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