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Castlefords new twinning arrangement

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Why is it? The fans can still be against this, they didn't make the decision.

If you cant beat em join em :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Why is it? The fans can still be against this, they didn't make the decision.

True but they can't say their clubs better than the others because they aren't twinned anymore can they?

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True but they can't say their clubs better than the others because they aren't twinned anymore can they?

Well no, but I'm not sure the ones are against it even would!

I wonder if Jordan Tansey might find himself back in the Championship quicker than he might have expected?

:ph34r: :lol:

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Well no, but I'm not sure the ones are against it even would!

I wonder if Jordan Tansey might find himself back in the Championship quicker than he might have expected?

:ph34r: :lol:

I certainly hope it's not him. He did well last week and seems to give the fans more confidence at full back than Richard Owen.

Owen became a Dad this week so might have missed a bit of training - could be him?

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I think most Keighley fans will be disgusted and may walk away. The problem is our not being in such an arrangement looked likely to result in relegation due to not being able to beat SL assisted teams we would have expected to beat like Hunslet, York and Swinton.

I guess it's a classic case of the end justifying the means but, at least, we avoided having to work with the Bulls.

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I think most Keighley fans will be disgusted and may walk away. The problem is our not being in such an arrangement looked likely to result in relegation due to not being able to beat SL assisted teams we would have expected to beat like Hunslet, York and Swinton.

I guess it's a classic case of the end justifying the means but, at least, we avoided having to work with the Bulls.

You're more than welcome.

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I think most Keighley fans will be disgusted and may walk away. The problem is our not being in such an arrangement looked likely to result in relegation due to not being able to beat SL assisted teams we would have expected to beat like Hunslet, York and Swinton.

I guess it's a classic case of the end justifying the means but, at least, we avoided having to work with the Bulls.

Why would a potentially better level and quality of competition cause fans to

1....be disgusted?

2.....walk away?

Surely it would increase interest, improve the quality of the games and attract more fans and therefore increase the club's income?

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Why would a potentially better level and quality of competition cause fans to

1....be disgusted?

2.....walk away?

Surely it would increase interest, improve the quality of the games and attract more fans and therefore increase the club's income?

It's all to do with tribalism, pride in achieving things for yourself, a sense of inferiority by having to be a chatel servant or a kept underling. If you don't understand these things, then you have no business being a fan.

Did Bradford fans flock to Headingley when their team was inferior to Leeds these last few years? No they were loyal to their team. They were fans.

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Why would a potentially better level and quality of competition cause fans to

1....be disgusted?

2.....walk away?

Surely it would increase interest, improve the quality of the games and attract more fans and therefore increase the club's income?

If it was simply down to the on-field product RL would have taken over the world years ago.

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Did Bradford fans flock to Headingley when their team was inferior to Leeds these last few years? No they were loyal to their team. They were fans.

Fan being short for fanatical, of course.

Fanatical

  • Filled with excessive and single-minded zeal.
  • Obsessively concerned with something.

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"you have no business being a fan"

Don't you DARE lecture me on being a fan! As it happens, my paternal grandmother's family came from Keighley, so just pray to god we are not related. Unlikely as our side is forward looking, open minded, still have our own teeth and not at all bigoted. The Bradford example is in no way analogous. I have to say that with "fans" like you, Keighley needs no enemies.

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Don't you DARE lecture me on being a fan! As it happens, my paternal grandmother's family came from Keighley, so just pray to god we are not related. The Bradford example is in no way analogous. I have to say that with "fans" like you, Keighley needs no enemies.

Well it so happens I was born in Bradford but then my parents saw the light.

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Well it so happens I was born in Bradford but then my parents saw the light.

Unnecessary.

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It's all to do with tribalism, pride in achieving things for yourself, a sense of inferiority by having to be a chatel servant or a kept underling. If you don't understand these things, then you have no business being a fan.

Did Bradford fans flock to Headingley when their team was inferior to Leeds these last few years? No they were loyal to their team. They were fans.

After the bile you have posted on this thread, I do not think you can expect anyone to take you seriously or respect your outpourings ever again. You come across IMO as having a worrying obsession with Bradford - all your previous "moral high ground" outpourings against Bradford can now be seen in the true context, I suggest? - and with wider issues too.

I suspect the reaction of the majority of Keighley supporters will be "how dare you presume to speak for us?".

I don't like this twinning business much at all, esepcially when you see what happened at Swinton. But if it is what it takes to preserve a tier of clubs like Keighley outside of SL (and I fear it will be, since there is just not enough money in the game OR enough fans turning out!) then good luck to Keighley. Desperate times make for desperate remedies.

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I think most Keighley fans will be disgusted and may walk away. The problem is our not being in such an arrangement looked likely to result in relegation due to not being able to beat SL assisted teams we would have expected to beat like Hunslet, York and Swinton.

I guess it's a classic case of the end justifying the means but, at least, we avoided having to work with the Bulls.

Yet when other clubs were taking this course of action you were slagging them off. The word hypocrite comes to mind!!!!!!

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“We’re not just going to bring in some of their under-20s squad, it’s going to be people out of their first-team squad.

“Hopefully it will make a difference and we can start competing with some of these teams who have already started bringing in Super League players."

Here endeth the first lesson.

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Another club loses part of its identity. The whole thing is a farce and has been wrongly regulated. The likes of Moore, Wood and Leulei playing is so wrong and not how the DR was being promoted as. The way things are many Championship clubs are Feeder clubs in all but name. Who is to say that Castleford wont use Keighley as such? What is to stop Keighley, Hunslet, Swinton etc using Michael Shenton, Danny Mcguire or Lee Briers in playoff games? I would stop sponsoring players if my club ever joined up with a SL one, as for me the club would not be something I feel I could support. I am proud of my club and dont see the need for it to join forces with a SL one. I would rather my team in Championship 1 than watch it be a feeder club for a SL club. People with attitudes like JohnM disgust me to be honest, with their failure to respect what it means to some people who follow their club and why they dont want them partnered up.

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Why would a potentially better level and quality of competition cause fans to

1....be disgusted?

2.....walk away?

Surely it would increase interest, improve the quality of the games and attract more fans and therefore increase the club's income?

If you don't know the answer then it is pointless trying to explain it. You either get it or you don't. You clearly don't.

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I'll be interested to see if it's the vocal minority who disprove - for what it's worth I'm not against them or labelling or dismissing those who oppose - but I wonder if whether or not the crowds and such like do change much.

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After the bile you have posted on this thread, I do not think you can expect anyone to take you seriously or respect your outpourings ever again. You come across IMO as having a worrying obsession with Bradford - all your previous "moral high ground" outpourings against Bradford can now be seen in the true context, I suggest? - and with wider issues too.

I suspect the reaction of the majority of Keighley supporters will be "how dare you presume to speak for us?".

I don't like this twinning business much at all, esepcially when you see what happened at Swinton. But if it is what it takes to preserve a tier of clubs like Keighley outside of SL (and I fear it will be, since there is just not enough money in the game OR enough fans turning out!) then good luck to Keighley. Desperate times make for desperate remedies.

After the bile you have posted on this thread, I do not think you can expect anyone to take you seriously or respect your outpourings ever again. You come across IMO as having a worrying obsession with Bradford - all your previous "moral high ground" outpourings against Bradford can now be seen in the true context, I suggest? - and with wider issues too.

I suspect the reaction of the majority of Keighley supporters will be "how dare you presume to speak for us?".

I don't like this twinning business much at all, esepcially when you see what happened at Swinton. But if it is what it takes to preserve a tier of clubs like Keighley outside of SL (and I fear it will be, since there is just not enough money in the game OR enough fans turning out!) then good luck to Keighley. Desperate times make for desperate remedies.

Exactly what bile are you talking about. Can you give me an example so I know what you are talking about.?I speak as one Keighley supporter. I don't speak for them all. It's just my guess, my opinion that they might walk away. If I am wrong then time will tell. Will this preserve Keighley and the other clubs.? Once again time will tell. I fear it might not, just the opposite.

There would be no desperate times needing desperate remedies if the SL clubs could manage their finances, run their own reserve teams and junior teams and had not imposed these feeder club deals on the CC clubs.

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Yet when other clubs were taking this course of action you were slagging them off. The word hypocrite comes to mind!!!!!!

Where in my post do you see me supporting this arrangement. Just so you are clear. I think it stinks but for self preservation, I can see where the club had to follow the path taken by the other psychophants.

I fail to see where I am being hypocritical,

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I think most Keighley fans will be disgusted and may walk away. The problem is our not being in such an arrangement looked likely to result in relegation due to not being able to beat SL assisted teams we would have expected to beat like Hunslet, York and Swinton.

I guess it's a classic case of the end justifying the means but, at least, we avoided having to work with the Bulls.

Marvellous hypocrisy.

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