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Keith T

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Using JM as the example, I don't know what he will have been paid by Warrington, but if he was a full-time player for the past 12 months (Quote from Tony Smith) then he needs a reasonable salary in order to live and without falling foul of the min wage reg's.

I'm not picking on Swinton here, I've also posted regarding Hunslet and Leuluai.

I'm also trying to look at the bigger picture for the sport of RL in general, which i think could be harmed by this situation.

I've also said that I'd be against such as Kevin Brown or Gaz Hock playing for 30 mins at Town to get match fitness to help Widnes. It devalues it all IMO.

The player I am familiar with was quite happy to stop being a full time player continue as a part time player and stay at college. ...why? Because and I quote "I just want to play rugby"

I'll quite happily accept and to some extent agree that the Wood/Mccarthy selection is different. That hasn't been brought up half as much as tge youngsters

The rest of what is being said about swinton doesn't need saying. Poor crowds dying club etc especially by the likes of town and york fans because we are in very similar states of play. If that's how people want their kicks then fill your boots folks.

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I'm sorry mate but there's been a whole thread started because Wood was in the Swinton squad and then another one because Leuluai being named in Hunslet's squad. Those have been the main talking points.

Almost all are in favour of a small number of youngsters being with another club on a DR basis (probably for a fixed period) to get experience so I don't know where you are coming from, given the RFL's short-sighted decision to scrap reserve grade to save a few quid. Swinton have been singled out for then playing 9 from Warrington in a friendly, then having access to 75% of a full team and rightly so IMO.

Town and Widnes were singled out with the announcement of virtually all Widnes squad being DR'd and rightly so. However, after 1 game it is being used correctly. I'm still not convinced past this weekend as the Widnes supporters are wanting certain individuals to get game time with Town regardless of how well any one else is performing in the Town squad.

Poor crowds have been quoted in relation to finance and paying of players salaries with these new arrangements.

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I'm sorry mate but there's been a whole thread started because Wood was in the Swinton squad and then another one because Leuluai being named in Hunslet's squad. Those have been the main talking points.

Almost all are in favour of a small number of youngsters being with another club on a DR basis (probably for a fixed period) to get experience so I don't know where you are coming from, given the RFL's short-sighted decision to scrap reserve grade to save a few quid. Swinton have been singled out for then playing 9 from Warrington in a friendly, then having access to 75% of a full team and rightly so IMO.

Town and Widnes were singled out with the announcement of virtually all Widnes squad being DR'd and rightly so. However, after 1 game it is being used correctly. I'm still not convinced past this weekend as the Widnes supporters are wanting certain individuals to get game time with Town regardless of how well any one else is performing in the Town squad.

Poor crowds have been quoted in relation to finance and paying of players salaries with these new arrangements.

Correct in everything you say there shaun,which takes us back to the old system.Have an age restriction,and limit the amount of players you can register instead of the amount you can play and you remove 99% of the objections that most fans see is wrong with the current set up.The main problem is neither the RFL or the SL clubs want that and in all the comments i have seen from various SL clubs/coaches in main they mention keeping players fit or bringing them back from injury rather than developing youn players.I would be happy with the old system and a new loan set up to run along side it.Have a loan set up with a initial minimum period of two months or say 6 games loan/This would make championship clubs think long and hard about taken established SL players on loan for that length of time and the impact that could have on their SC.What ever the wrongs and rights it sems certain we are stuck with this for this season at least.

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further proof if needed otto that you are talking rubbish

Well the last sentence attributed to Dave Woods certainly proves that unless Haven use the players from St Helens the Saints may say they are finishing the partnership and join up with Leigh. I don't think that's what you meant though, is it? ;)

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keith you know what that means and it is if there is nothing in the agreement for the SL clubs then why would they continue with it.Town will be no different to haven or any other club that have linked up and it will be a nightmare to manage.You may try to take the moral high ground in this but you lost that as soon as a full squad was DR.This been forced is rubbish to try to make one clubs situation in this worse than another clubs when in fact all the clubs have the same problems to deal with.Remember so far we are the only club with a link up that has refused all players offered in a week.

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Haven4ever, you are the one trying to take the moral high ground hence all your posts on the same subject on numerous forums about how Haven were offered players and didn't use any. Then you are on here preaching that there should be age limits and limits to numbers of players under the system but just how many players at Saints have Haven access to? No-one knows until Saints make the offer on a weekly basis. By the end of the season you could have been offered more than Town have from Widnes. As for the age thing it is obvious that the SL club is not going to let this be all one way and it was also obvious from the outset that the SL club would be wanting players returning from injury to get get game time, so I had no problem with Wood playing for Swinton against us. I have no problem with Gardner playing for Haven but you seem to have this age thing in your mind all the time going by your numerous posts. I think we have all got the message you want it similar to last year. So do others and so do I with changes that didn't allow the SL to withdraw players at short notice as we suffered from last year. The fact is we have been landed with this system for this year at least so get over it.

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That's right . It's here for the season . It's been done to death now

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the games knackered. little brown envelopes everywhere. christ how do you run a squad of 35 lads on a gate of 6-700 . this is gonna blow up in the rfl faces.

you may as well drop the wording sallary cap from the rules of the game

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further proof if needed otto that you are talking rubbish

So if I'm talking rubbish then somebody at your beloved club must be talking rubbish becuase that is where this has come from.

As for what is printed in the papers, papers only print what they want you to read,

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