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Haven Horizon

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Bring Back Promotion & Relegation

Haven Horizon, a supporters group of Whitehaven RLFC, is calling on the Rugby Football League to review the current Super League licensing system and consider bringing back promotion and relegation. Since the move was made in 2009 to move to a franchise model, teams in the lower divisions have had their chances of reaching the top tier significantly reduced.

In all the other major sports in the UK, football, cricket, rugby union, promotion and relegation exists successfully, so why has it been taken away from rugby league?

Haven Horizon want to obtain as many signatures as possible to highlight that the rugby league community wants to see promotion and relegation return. If you agree and would like to see this happen, please sign this petition!

To sign the petition, click here - http://bit.ly/ULxxyD

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I see what you mean, but it is a petition not a poll. I applaud this opportunity for people to express their opinion in this free and open way. Of course,the hundreds of thousands of those who do not agree with the petition will not sign, so obviously their views must be taken into account. In any case, to have any influence, the petition statement must be watertight, which I am afraid it is not.

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I see what you mean, but it is a petition not a poll. I applaud this opportunity for people to express their opinion in this free and open way. Of course,the hundreds of thousands of those who do not agree with the petition will not sign, so obviously their views must be taken into account. In any case, to have any influence, the petition statement must be watertight, which I am afraid it is not.

And the 'hundreds of thousands who do not agree' is watertight? Where's the results of that survey published?

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I see what you mean, but it is a petition not a poll. I applaud this opportunity for people to express their opinion in this free and open way. Of course,the hundreds of thousands of those who do not agree with the petition will not sign, so obviously their views must be taken into account. In any case, to have any influence, the petition statement must be watertight, which I am afraid it is not.

With all due respect this subject is not about choosing a candidate in an election, it's about gauging whether there's a groundswell of support for P&R and to try and evidence it. There is no need to take into account any other alternative way of separating teams of differing abilities whether that be licencing, franchising of some other despotic approach.

People who support that way of working can do their own petition.

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Cricket only has P&R between the two divisions of the County Championship - the least supported of its competitions. It does not have P&R in Twenty20, CB40 or whatever else the ECB has dreamed up this week.

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Why not just sign Andy Burnhams existing petition?

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Come on people,sign the petition,lets get the Super League closed shop CLOSED.

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I won't be signing it.It will only encourage more clubs to spend beyond there means,leading to more clubs going to the wall.

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sorry but i agree with twig, my club spent beyond their means just to get promotion and they went bust.

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P&R will be back within two years.

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The sports you list all have P& R with strings attached - clubs need to meet criteria over facilities, etc. That is also true in Rugby League, it's just that we do it every three years instead of every year.

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the nrl has performed extremely well without p&r it will be a return to the bad old days of ###### or bust management........

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I think that the only divisions in professional football with no strings attached P&R are Leagues One and Two. (Tier 3 and 4 on the pyramid).

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Come on people,sign the petition,lets get the Super League closed shop CLOSED.

no. No. NO. NOOOOOOOO!

It is NOT a closed shop.

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With all due respect this subject is not about choosing a candidate in an election, it's about gauging whether there's a groundswell of support for P&R and to try and evidence it. There is no need to take into account any other alternative way of separating teams of differing abilities whether that be licencing, franchising of some other despotic approach.

People who support that way of working can do their own petition.

The fundamental platform of the petition is flawed. A single factual error and the petition is doomed to failure. No need to set up an alternative. If you sign, you have indicated your view. If you don't sign, you have done the same.

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I think that the only divisions in professional football with no strings attached P&R are Leagues One and Two. (Tier 3 and 4 on the pyramid).

Won't that be the only tier in the whole pyramid?

I know down the bottom the criteria is strictly enforced and grounds graded which plays a part in determining who can and can't be promoted, which can only be a good thing as clubs with any sort of ambition are motivated to improve facilities year on year, even if its just the small jobs being done by hardy bands of volunteers its an improvement on letting things stagnate.

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I won't be signing it.It will only encourage more clubs to spend beyond there means,leading to more clubs going to the wall.

Like the use of the word MORE.So Super League hasn't eradicated the problem then.

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Like the use of the word MORE.So Super League hasn't eradicated the problem then.

No,and i don't think you can blame SL for clubs going bust,it was happening before the advent of SL.

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No,and i don't think you can blame SL for clubs going bust,it was happening before the advent of SL.

But one of the reasons behind abandoning P&R was to stop clubs going bust but it hasn't worked.

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No,and i don't think you can blame SL for clubs going bust,it was happening before the advent of SL.

And so was getting hammered by the Aussies which a full time Super League was supposed to address but it's never got close.

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But one of the reasons behind abandoning P&R was to stop clubs going bust but it hasn't worked.

So reinstating P&R would?

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I think that the only divisions in professional football with no strings attached P&R are Leagues One and Two. (Tier 3 and 4 on the pyramid).

You think wrong. Several clubs have either been refused or gone into panic improvement mode to get from tier 5 to tier 4.

Further down the leagues, some team in the Northern Counties East League got relegated last season, despite winning their division, because their facilities weren't good enough.

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