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Hunslet Hawks Dual Registration Statement

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I'm just waiting for the day one of these pesky little upstart clubs who've borrowed a couple of players have the audacity to beat the mighty Fev, then I reckon these boards may just turn themselves inside out.

You need the sinfields and burrows of the game to upset the apple cart. But just say they do its not the yorks, hunslets of this world that will have beaten us is it? It's the whinos, hulls of this world that will have beaten us so nothing to be ashamed of really is there if one of these clubs turn us over?

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You need the sinfields and burrows of the game to upset the apple cart. But just say they do its not the yorks, hunslets of this world that will have beaten us is it? It's the whinos, hulls of this world that will have beaten us so nothing to be ashamed of really is there if one of these clubs turn us over?

Arrogance beyond belief,what if Hunslet beat Fev with two dual reg players,Watson and Hood, players who have very little SL experience.Surely then it's down to the Hunslet players.

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You need the sinfields and burrows of the game to upset the apple cart.

Dewsbury very nearly did on Sunday though didn't they, and they would have done if Alibert had got the right call. Although you won't have gone to that game would you, what with you not going to any games at the grounds of feeder clubs 'cos you don't want to put money in SL clubs pockets etc etc ad nauseam

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Arrogance beyond belief,what if Hunslet beat Fev with two dual reg players,Watson and Hood, players who have very little SL experience.Surely then it's down to the Hunslet players.

If that is the case then I will stand corrected. As for arrogance not at all. We were once in the situation these clubs are in probably a worse position and we fought tooth and nail to stop the merger/ feeder club system and all the hard work we did seems to have been forgotten by these teams linking up. The RFL and SL clubs have wanted this for a long time and now they have their wish. As long as the elite can survive who cares if the hunslets of this world dissapear to keep them afloat? It's just disgusting how the teams outside the elite league are treated. Us for instance we have to jump through flaming red hot hoops to get in SL where some clubs haven't had to lift a finger and their in. If you are in the elite or fit the expansion bracket your safe or in.

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How are clubs like Hunslet disappearing,they have their own Stadium,etc,they are in a partnership with another club,not only sharing players but other resources.So far you haven't used one fact to back up your views.

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Dewsbury very nearly did on Sunday though didn't they, and they would have done if Alibert had got the right call. Although you won't have gone to that game would you, what with you not going to any games at the grounds of feeder clubs 'cos you don't want to put money in SL clubs pockets etc etc ad nauseam

I didn't attended the game and won't be attending any feeder clubs grounds this season as I don't agree with the DR system so I definitely am not going to fund it.

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Having read that statement, I think Hunslet would have been better off simply not saying anything.

It sounds like some kind of guilty self-justification along the lines of we're-not-worse-than-any-of-the-others-who-are-doing-it.

The system is wrong.

It's not Hunslet's fault.

But it's still wrong.

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How are clubs like Hunslet disappearing,they have their own Stadium,etc,they are in a partnership with another club,not only sharing players but other resources.So far you haven't used one fact to back up your views.

I didn't say they were disappearing. I'm just saying if they do, do you honestly think the SL clubs and RFL who are involved in this will care as long as the SL clubs save a few quid and stay afloat?

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I didn't say they were disappearing. I'm just saying if they do, do you honestly think the SL clubs and RFL who are involved in this will care as long as the SL clubs save a few quid and stay afloat?

Yes.

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I didn't attended the game and won't be attending any feeder clubs grounds this season as I don't agree with the DR system so I definitely am not going to fund it.

I don't agree with tax avoidance (which is one of the things funding Fev incidentally) but I'm still going to go to your ground, as I support my team and I'm not petty and pathetic.

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I don't agree with tax avoidance (which is one of the things funding Fev incidentally) but I'm still going to go to your ground, as I support my team and I'm not petty and pathetic.

Everyone to their own. But their is normally 4 or 5 of us that attend the away games in a car and they agree about the system same as me so I'm not the only one that's petty and pathetic. I don't mind spending 16 quid or whatever it is to get in an beverages and food etc in away fans grounds I just don't agree with this system so I'm not going to fund it that would make me an hypocrite.

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Of course, the advantage of not having a DR agreement is that players see that as an plus-point when deciding whether or not to sign for you.

They're not going to have their match bonus stolen by some ageing $uperleague player coming back from a dodgy knee. ;)

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Having read that statement, I think Hunslet would have been better off simply not saying anything.

It sounds like some kind of guilty self-justification along the lines of we're-not-worse-than-any-of-the-others-who-are-doing-it.

The system is wrong.

It's not Hunslet's fault.

But it's still wrong.

We wanted to put the record straight to our own supporters first and foremost, as we had previously stated that we intended to go down one road, the goalposts have now changed for ALL partnered clubs so we wanted to inform our supporters what we now intend to do. I am proud that we are honest an open enough to openly communicate what we are doing and what we intend to do in terms dual reg.

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Of course, the advantage of not having a DR agreement is that players see that as an plus-point when deciding whether or not to sign for you.

They're not going to have their match bonus stolen by some ageing $uperleague player coming back from a dodgy knee. ;)

Total opposite at our club, our top players stayed at Hunslet for less money offered elsewhere because of the opportunity to play with better quality players, potentially winning more games, meaning more winning pay.

In your case i would suggest that its the thousands of pounds a week you spend on your players that keep them at Fev nothing to do with dual reg?

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Total opposite at our club, our top players stayed at Hunslet for less money offered elsewhere because of the opportunity to play with better quality players, potentially winning more games, meaning more winning pay.

In your case i would suggest that its the thousands of pounds a week you spend on your players that keep them at Fev nothing to do with dual reg?

Griff is a Sheffield fan

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Griff is a Sheffield fan

Apologies Griff, but still the same point applies.

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We also note with interest that the high profile option of fielding Kylie Leuluai and Richard Moore in last week’s game at Leigh Centurions drew much attention. When In actual fact Dewsbury, Doncaster, Keighley, Swinton, Whitehaven, Workington and York all fielded dual registration players with over 100 Super League appearances between them at the weekend. Two of these players represented Dewsbury. [/color]

I have to comment here, since it has a bearing on my own club.

The statement is highly disingenuous, I suggest?

Hunslet had Lueluai (34, many seasons of NRL and SL under his belt) and Moore (ditto SL, at least 180 appearances I think?). Senior players.

Dewsbury had two from Bradford: Donaldson (21) and O'Brien (19).

Donaldson, OK he has over 30 SL appearances to his name, mostly in his teens as a very promising LF before two years wrecked by serious injuries. He is currently just returning from missing nearly all last season with a cruciate injury, and is desperate to try and regain form and opportunity, being now well down the pecking order and in the last year of his contract.

O'Brien, promising third-choice hooker, has made 8 appearances I think, as backup hooker during our numerous injury crises. he will be very keen to gain more experience in proper games, to give him a better chance of succeeding Disko or Heath.

Both these players, if allowed the opportunity to play and shine, could potentially IMO earn international honours in years to come, and have hopefully many years careers ahead of them.

Now, I suggest the two Bulls lads look to be just the sort of candidates people will have had in mind when considering this twinning malarky?

Can the same be said about two 30-something powerhouse props nearing the end of their long professional careers?

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Apology accepted.

Though I think you overestimate the wages that the Sheffield club pay.

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I have to comment here, since it has a bearing on my own club.

The statement is highly disingenuous, I suggest?

Hunslet had Lueluai (34, many seasons of NRL and SL under his belt) and Moore (ditto SL, at least 180 appearances I think?). Senior players.

Dewsbury had two from Bradford: Donaldson (21) and O'Brien (19).

Donaldson, OK he has over 30 SL appearances to his name, mostly in his teens as a very promising LF before two years wrecked by serious injuries. He is currently just returning from missing nearly all last season with a cruciate injury, and is desperate to try and regain form and opportunity, being now well down the pecking order and in the last year of his contract.

O'Brien, promising third-choice hooker, has made 8 appearances I think, as backup hooker during our numerous injury crises. he will be very keen to gain more experience in proper games, to give him a better chance of succeeding Disko or Heath.

Both these players, if allowed the opportunity to play and shine, could potentially IMO earn international honours in years to come, and have hopefully many years careers ahead of them.

Now, I suggest the two Bulls lads look to be just the sort of candidates people will have had in mind when considering this twinning malarky?

Can the same be said about two 30-something powerhouse props nearing the end of their long professional careers?

Whats the point your trying to make?

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Total opposite at our club, our top players stayed at Hunslet for less money offered elsewhere because of the opportunity to play with better quality players, potentially winning more games, meaning more winning pay.

Great if you're in the team. Not so good if your place is taken.

And, of course, half the teams lose every week - draws excepted, obviously.

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Whats the point your trying to make?

Eh? I would have thought that was obvious, from the part I quoted and the observatrions I made comparing Hunslet with the other club they chose to specifically emphasise, Dewsbury.

Hunslet are saying that they have done no different to other clubs. Whilst on one level that may seem at first glance to be true, when you look more at the detail the situations are in reality pretty well totally the opposite. Hnece my labelling their statement as disingenuous.

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For me it's, mainly the fault of the twinned Championship clubs that have caused the problem. They didn't have to pick the players such as Paul Wood or Richard Moore. But by doing so they have opened the door for others to do it in fear of being left behind. And it's they who should be blamed for ruining the integrity of the Championship.

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Nah - the RFL shouldn't have made the rules so vague.

You want to develop young players ? (and that was the stated intent) Then you should only be able to DR young players.

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I dont have a problem with Dual Regs as such. But the RFL have once again due to poor management managed to cause another massive split in the game and are seemingly pushing for even overseas players to be allowed on it which is just wrong on so many levels. I accept that small clubs like York, Hunslet etc want to compete more against Fax, Fev, Leigh etc. A max of 4 Dual Reg lads under 23 I think is OK. But having the likes of Kylie Leulei, Richard Moore, Ade Gardner is just wrong. It has been abused and has ruined the reputation of the championship for me as well as making it a lottery.

The Championship was a great comp with even the likes of Dewsbury, York etc having match and even beaten the big clubs at times. An example of this is both have beaten Halifax in the past 2 seasons. Now its just become a lottery, where teams have little idea what strenghth the likes of Hunslet and Swinton are going to be. Who is to say Hunslet, Swinton, York, Dewsbury etc dont use SL players like Burrows, Briers, Yeaman, Gale in games to survive relegation or playoffs if the SL club has no game or The whole thing has been a charade with the RFL and Clubs telling us one thing. But the real truth being hidden. The whole thing has not been thought through properly. The massive divide that existed in the game have just been increased even more thanks to the RFL and selfish clubs. The Hunslet Hawks press release is just a joke for me as it comes across as them amnd Leeds trying to justify things. The whole game is in a mess and I cant see it getting any better. I cant see a bright future for much of the game due to the selfish short term decisions.

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I'm just waiting for the day one of these pesky little upstart clubs who've borrowed a couple of players have the audacity to beat the mighty Fev, then I reckon these boards may just turn themselves inside out.

That's exactly what's going to happen, because Hunslet wll have 4 or 5 SL quality players in their side, who are actually players belonging to Leeds. How is that fair to Fev who have done all the hard work themselves not borrowed almost half a team.

At the other end of the table some poor sod of a team is going to go to the league of death because they lost to Hunslet, Swinton or Workington, teams they would have expected to beat until they borrowed SL standard players belonging to another club.

Keighley, to their shame, have jumped on this bandwagon in an effort at self preservation, but the whole worth on competition and success or failure or the integrity of the Championship is now being dictated by the strength of loanees avaiable from the various SL clubs. This cannot be right. The oft quoted statement that the Championship is a fine competition worth winning in it's own right is now a hollow shell.

What next, dig out the old A team league trophy to present to the winner.

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