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17/02/13 - London Broncos v Wakefield Trinity Wildcats - KO 3pm

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Well the 1800 people who turned up for this were treated to......errrrr........well not a lot really.

Wakey neve got out of second gear and even bombed about 3 tries and missed 4 kicks. On this showing London will do well to get nil every week.

Couple of points....

Wakey look a decent side

Kirmond should be a shoe in for England

London really need to sort themselves out as half that team don't even look as they want to be there

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I think it's a real shame that the Broncos are basically letting the side down in London. So much positive stuff is going on in the city now and yet for whatever reason the team are not producing, presumably because they are made up of predominantly journeyman Australians. I really would love to see them making a success of it but if this carries on for many more games then nobody will turn up and the whole thing will be dead.

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Broncos were incredibly lucky only to be 6-nil down at halftime. Wakey bombed several chances, London didn't ever look like scoring. Yet another pitiful display.

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The RFL would only be doing Broncos a favour if they just relegated them. They just can't handle Super League. They don't have enough fans to be competitive and every year the problem gets worse.

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Clueless and without direction at the top, completely inept on the pitch.

London Bronco's need a Koukash

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The RFL would only be doing Broncos a favour if they just relegated them. They just can't handle Super League. They don't have enough fans to be competitive and every year the problem gets worse.

It's not use number of fans that's the issue. It's the club structure.

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It would seem to be everything. The only thing the club has going for them is the number of kids playing RL in London these days. Unfortunately few of them are currently SL standard and they don't have the cash to keep the ones that are. Even if the club could reform its structure, it is probably too late. They need to regroup in a league where they can be competitive.

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Clueless and without direction at the top, completely inept on the pitch.

London Bronco's need a Koukash

I agree with this, the potential is there, it's just that poor management decisions continue to be made. When Powell left that was the chance to change the culture of the club, instead they went for a coach who didn't achieve anything in his last tenure as coach, despite having the luxury of being able to pick as many antipodean players possible. The club is poorly run and lacks the excitement and expectation needed in order to get the locals on board. It's not that Rugby League in London can't be successful, but you have to do things right and decision making is important at this level. Brian Smith, Mick Potter and Brian Noble were all out of jobs at the point when Powell left, why didn't we go for them? If you want to be the best then you need to bring in the best coaches or do whatever is possible to get them. It is rumoured that Noble wanted to coach us but we turned him down, if this is true then it's an absolute disgrace, here is a man who has proven success and winners medals but we he wasn't on our radar and that was a wrong call.

David Hughes and Gus Mackay need to sit down and come up with some radical ideas in order to change the losing culture and bring the excitement back into the club, that's what's missing. If you don't have it then fans will stay at home, players won't want to sign for you and it's an endless cycle.

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Perhaps there are just two options -

Both will be viewed as the right thing to do by about half the fans of the game, and as an horrific affront to the others

Either they are left to be relegate OR

The RFL act as sponsors and commit to bankroll the club for the next decade so that some way can be found to grow crowds and protect development in London.

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The RFL would only be doing Broncos a favour if they just relegated them. They just can't handle Super League. They don't have enough fans to be competitive and every year the problem gets worse.

Don't think that's the solution, yes the RFL need to step in but the club needs a new direction and more focused, determined management.

I'd like the RFL to step in and look for a new owner much in the same way they have with Salford, with Brian Barwick on board you would think he has some contacts who he can sell the club to.

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I was at Chelsea v Brentford. From what others have said on here it doesn't sound like I missed much!

I was at The Bridge and wish I hadn't bothered getting over to The Stoop.

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The RFL act as sponsors and commit to bankroll the club for the next decade so that some way can be found to grow crowds and protect development in London.

Where does the cash come from?

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Don't think that's the solution, yes the RFL need to step in but the club needs a new direction and more focused, determined management.

I'd like the RFL to step in and look for a new owner much in the same way they have with Salford, with Brian Barwick on board you would think he has some contacts who he can sell the club to.

It'd be great if they could but Broncos are a white elephant.Yes, I'd have said the same of Salford but there are degrees of whiteness (and elephantiness). 1,887 supporters is just not sustainable even with big cash injections.

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There's no dressing it up its a terrible crowd and a bad result. But we are only 3 games into the season, lets have a bit of perspective.

Not entirely sure why Chris Irvine had to tweet that Fev got a bigger crowd? Will this improve things somehow?

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Money is the big thing. Any sport/sports club would need it in abundance to make the required impact in London. The Bronco's don't have it, if they do they don't have the people in place to use it in the best fashion.

i've heard a number of people close to the club saying the people at the top really don't know what they are doing, a similar situation to what was happening with Salford.

Changes need to be made at the top, people need to be brought in who can run a sports club sensibly and successfully, and who can make the right decisions which will affect the team and how well the team can potentially play.

The Bronco's may well have invested a large amount of money in their current playing staff, but the vast majority of that investment has been seriously wasted as the players they've spent the money on, with one or two exceptions, just aren't anywhere good enough.

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The club needs to move away from the Stoop. A ridiculous place to play top class RL. Its almost as if someone within the club wanted to move the ub there knowing it would slowly destroy them.

It has always been a ###### place for RL with poor crowds. The crowds actually went down the year they came 2nd, after the silly move from Charlton in 96

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London were very poor today. We just cut through them at every opportunity today. Just really poor finishing saved their blushes. I think the similarity with Salford is a good one. They need someone with a decent bit of money and some real nous. It can't be that hard to make a success of the Broncos with all the groundwork that has been put in. Plenty of that team today were from the south, and there are more to come, but management at the Broncos seems to have been poor for a number of years, maybe because the owner has been out of his depth financially.

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I was at The Bridge and wish I hadn't bothered getting over to The Stoop.

I did intend to do the same. (I had my season ticket in my pocket). Unfortunately or fortunately I got distracted by an invitation to go to the Pelican by some very old friends!

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On a more serious note I think some should remember that it was only less than a year ago that almost all of the pundits on Sky were hailing the fact that we had a young ENGLISH coach of the quality of Rob Powell around. In regard to Brian Noble even if he were interested how long would he be likely to stay for?

To me what London needs is a period of success on the pitch. I thought there was a good buzz around at the beginning of this season but the results so far have poured some cold water on that. I hope Tony Rea can turn it around.

In regard to the attendance I don't think this has ever been a match with a big crowd.

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I am looking forward to seeing the game. Trinity are a decent side, while London have a lot of talent. I have loved watching hundreds of Bronco games over the years and would be sad to see them go, but I genuinely believe that we do not need a London team to keep up our profile in London. We should make sure there are half a dozen "events" in London every year - charity shield, an England game, millennium magic, a couple of on the road fixtures and an Exiles game (which would be an easier sell to London Anzacs than northerners). Londoners are more likely to turn out in numbers to watch Saints Wigan than Broncos against either of them. Virtually no Londoners associate themselves with London as a single concept. They are mostly from somewhere else or like their town within the city. The vichies get massive crowds for events involving no London teams with entertainment at the cheese rolling level solely because they are events.

sadly I find myself agreeing with this post.

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Not entirely sure why Chris Irvine had to tweet that Fev got a bigger crowd?

It's because he's a knobjockey.

HTH.

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It's all over bar the shouting for the London Broncos, I'm afraid. If anybody wants to watch SL rugby league in London then they'd better make the most of the remaining 11 home games. And when the club goes kaput the sport won't have another opportunity to establish itself at the top level for at least a decade to come, probably more.

Ultimately the responsibility for that lies with the game as a whole, because we weren't decisive enough to actually go for it, to make it happen despite the obstacles, to promote and defend the sport in difficult territory. No, it was far easier politically and financially to leave the club to stand or fall on its own. That's fine, priorities were made and decisions followed. But the game, as a whole, will soon see the consequences.

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It's all over bar the shouting for the London Broncos,

There's going to be some shouting?

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There's going to be some shouting?

Probably not. Even the most hardcore of Broncos fans, and I don't include myself in that company, seem to have given up. I believe that 'acceptance' is the final stage in dealing with a terminal illness.

There will, unfortunately, be some gloating in certain corners.

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