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I agree but a good scrum half who attacks the defensive line and sucks players in can create space and overlaps which can mitigate the lack of pace out wide. Our halves are too static and even when they do move it tends to be lateral which is easy to defend against if you move up and close the space down.

Thats exactly what Town need at half back but if teams know they can cover across in defence then there wont be as much space for the halves to work in. Either way the coaches need to pick a 7 and stick with them to get some continuity as there usually confidence players

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I have a funny feeling that we will be saying similar things throughout the season. We got away with it at half=back last year but already in 3 games it is showing where our weakness is this year. What can we do about it, that is the question?

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Well I say sign a good little half back that takes on the lines creates tries to play 7 and Forber 6

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Just realised that Donny today had 4 dual registered players from Wakefield and 1 loan player from Castleford. Other clubs are using dual reg and loanees in prominent positions so can we get Gilmore and Mellor next week from Widnes???

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Oh dear, reality check, time to rein in the optimism a bit. Town looked the better team for most of the first half but just couldn't take their chances whereas Donny did and grew in confidence. Start of the second half Town started well but just couldn't get over the line final passes just not sticking. Lupton didn't appear second half so probably injured and we just looked devoid of ideas. Dore looked OK and Forber shipped the ball on but that was about it. Jamie Acton had a strong game as did Patrick. Carter dangerous and so close to scoring on 2 occassions but not always comfortable under the high ball. Again not outclassed but not quite good enough.

BP next sunday I suppose is the hope.

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That's what I'm saying Keith , just got to swallow and go for it now with the tide flowing the way it is . Principles are great but you've gotta help yourself.

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it looks as though barrow and swinton are going to struggle, especially at the start of the season. i just hope we can pick some points up and put daylight between us and them before they hit there better form.

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Let's hope it was just a bad day at thr office. I had bad vibes about this one, they won the championship last year and have strengthened their squad, it was always gonna be tough.

Charlo summed it up when he said we have no problems getting from A to B, we just can't get to C !!!!

I suppose it's his and Oggys job to teach them how to get to C !!!

Losing Lupton so early didn't help, with him off we have no creativity in the side, we've being crying out for an halfback to take on the line for a few seasons now, we can't keep relying on Matty to take us forward. Unfortunately it doesn't look like Coyle is the man to do it, but it's early days yet, and he might improve.

We knew it was gonna be tough and it's last years champions up next, let's get down to DP and get behind them.

I hope the injuries to Stack and Lupton aren't serious, we need them .

Chins up boys, and keep the faith. :)

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New coach needed in my eyes maybe i am over reacting to this defeat.. Dont get me wrong I think Charlo and Oggy have done an awesome job getting us to were we are but we have no plan B and im not sure they can deliver that.. I hope they can!

i think we need a more experienced coach for this league.

Up the Town!!

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I get surprised at quotes like ' we haven't done much ball work ' .... Why not , we've been training since November ??

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it looks as though barrow and swinton are going to struggle, especially at the start of the season. i just hope we can pick some points up and put daylight between us and them before they hit there better form.

And these are 2 sides at the opposite end of the Partnership/ DR spectrum so doesn't really support one way or the other ?

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That's the great unspoken Cato , and it's something people are allowed to muse over . That's fair enough debate.

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New coach needed in my eyes maybe i am over reacting to this defeat.. Dont get me wrong I think Charlo and Oggy have done an awesome job getting us to were we are but we have no plan B and im not sure they can deliver that.. I hope they can!

i think we need a more experienced coach for this league.

Up the Town!!

Bit of a knee jerk reaction there I think Cato, we don't want to sound like our dear neighbours do we. A dissapointing result, but let's not call for peoples heads just yet. ;)

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Come on lads get things in perspective. It was disappointing not to get a BP but hardly time to hang the coaches. Remember it will be learning curve at this level for them too. If you remember we tried to sign Dallimore in the close season but he chose to stick with Oldham, these quick line breaking halves that can kick aren't exactly growing on trees!

I wasn't there today but from the radio it just sounded they were a bit smarter on our goal line. I think we are in for a long season if we start calling for player and coach culls after every game we don't perform to some high expectations.

If Lupton is out it may give us chance to use our link up to our advantage again.

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Oh yes fair debate but everyone deserves time in a very long season . It's still early days . But we need some reaction on the pitch , so lets take a breath and see what happens . These guys have earned the right to try and get things clicking offensively .

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When i posted it i thought i sounded like a jam fan.

:/ but even last year we seemed to be found out too easy sometimes.Maybe it is a bit of a quick reaction but i feel we need just that little bit extra when we struggle to break down the opposition. Its asif we are easy to defend against.

I dont want to sound a dickhead,its just the way i feel.

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Calm down, calm down, it is not the end of the world losing at Donny although no doubt the manner of defeat is hard to take.

If you look around the teams that have dual reg players they are using either all the allocation they are allowed or they are using older players despite protestations from other clubs about becoming reserve teams for SL.

Up to now we have only used young lads to cover for certain positions due to injuries but we have been crying out for half-backs for two seasons now and I cannot see any reason why we can't ask Widnes to help us out in those positions. They have some good young half-backs at Widnes who are not getting game time, so why not.

I'm sure widnesrlfc who posts on here will agree that young Gilmore and mellor could do with a bit more game time. The old saying is "if you don't ask, you won't get".

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Calm down, calm down, it is not the end of the world losing at Donny although no doubt the manner of defeat is hard to take.

If you look around the teams that have dual reg players they are using either all the allocation they are allowed or they are using older players despite protestations from other clubs about becoming reserve teams for SL.

Up to now we have only used young lads to cover for certain positions due to injuries but we have been crying out for half-backs for two seasons now and I cannot see any reason why we can't ask Widnes to help us out in those positions. They have some good young half-backs at Widnes who are not getting game time, so why not.

I'm sure widnesrlfc who posts on here will agree that young Gilmore and mellor could do with a bit more game time. The old saying is "if you don't ask, you won't get".

Gilly is playing regular in the 19's competition and Mellor has started all three SL games. After that Widnes are also short in the halves. Goulding(who is 19) was given all the time in the world on the left edge today and destroyed you. Cooke played at a stroll and it was all on the back of their forwards running harder and faster with the ball and there linespeed was much much quicker.Howevver we did create 4 or 5 overlaps with 4 & 5 on 2 on many occasions and on th eone time we got the ball out qucik to the left we strolled in

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Gilly is playing regular in the 19's competition and Mellor has started all three SL games. After that Widnes are also short in the halves. Goulding(who is 19) was given all the time in the world on the left edge today and destroyed you. Cooke played at a stroll and it was all on the back of their forwards running harder and faster with the ball and there linespeed was much much quicker.Howevver we did create 4 or 5 overlaps with 4 & 5 on 2 on many occasions and on th eone time we got the ball out qucik to the left we strolled in

Is that a lack of personnel who can see that overlap and execute the quick ball or not coached to do it in your opinion mate?

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maybe when Mattinson is back Phillips goes 7 Forber 6 and Lupton 13 we may open up sides a bit easier?

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Maybe we could radically shift it now and go Gore and Phillips with Olstrum at 9 and Lupton at 13 . May be a bit livelier ? Can't do any worse if we can't get a Widnes lad . We need 3 ball players and not just one .

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maybe when Mattinson is back Phillips goes 7 Forber 6 and Lupton 13 we may open up sides a bit easier?

That wouldn't be a bad idea I think we are missing Matty a bit down the middle and Forber in his first spell at town was class when he had a good partner in Liam Campbell (who I would welcome back with open arms) do maybe trying that with a young fast hb along side him might help cause I think Carl is more of a 6 then 7

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