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Joel Tomkins

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Ford looked as though he was going to be exceptional, but he has fallen off a lot. Off to Bath next season, to join up with Daddy

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Thing is with union is that positions are a lot more specialised than league, where running and handling is much more a premium. Our forwards have to compete at the breakdown, which you don't have. I don't think a league player will ever make it as a union forward, the skill sets are too different. A union forward would probably never make it in league for the same reason

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Thing is with union is that positions are a lot more specialised than league, where running and handling is much more a premium. Our forwards have to compete at the breakdown, which you don't have. I don't think a league player will ever make it as a union forward, the skill sets are too different. A union forward would probably never make it in league for the same reason

Apart from Brad Thorn? Your right though a Union forward is more about the work in contact situations rather than open play. On Tomkins I can always remember thinking hes a great second row but wouldnt be part of a succesful team as a centre so cant imagine he has enough class to play there for England RU, maybe a Shontayne Hape type player

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Quite confused here. What exactly is the issue with what I have posted?

I've absolutely no idea what was wrong with your opening post. Seemed a fair enough question to me.

To be fair though, however prickly some of the responses here may be, they're nowhere near the level of vitriol you'd find on forums such as Planetrugby etc.

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Nothing.

league fans are twatsssss and the Yorkshire ones are the worst..... Honest..... You've asked a good and honest question.

It's not as though you've asked what is the difference between east ridings, humberside or east 'ull

beer on special in Aldi again?

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Chances are the guy/girl is innocently asking a question. But how many times have we seen people appear and start asking random questions only to not be all that innocent?

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beer on special in Aldi again?

Nope, someone asks a genuine question and as usual the pettiness starts, so I thought I'd have some fun

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Nope, someone asks a genuine question and as usual the pettiness starts, so I thought I'd have some fun

by calling people tw4ts??

hilarious

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by calling people tw4ts??

hilarious

New poster getting stick...... Only in league, no wonder are game has no sponsors, why would any new potential bother.

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I've the read all the posts again and I apologise to OF

It just pee'd me off a newbie asked a genuine question and he was directed to another part of the forum.

Some members would never have seen this topic.

I thought it was a genuine question and had some legs to discuss in this part of the forum.

My response was yes, silly, but again new posters need encouraging.

So apology to OF

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Thing is with union is that positions are a lot more specialised than league, where running and handling is much more a premium. Our forwards have to compete at the breakdown, which you don't have. I don't think a league player will ever make it as a union forward, the skill sets are too different. A union forward would probably never make it in league for the same reason

Many people also forget that after a very ropey first season Scott Quniell turned out pretty good before RU went pro and nabbed him back :)

As for Joel, as some of the other Wiganers have said, he was a great second rower, who initially he had a good run of form at loose forward as well (after O'Loughlins horrific knee injury). He's got a decent pair of hands and step for a forward. When he was switched to centre he never quite fit in, especially defensively as its a difficult position to read. I suspect if he'd grown up in Oz they'd have stuck him in the centre to start with and he'd probably have been great.

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He's just being looked after, so they can entice his brother to the dark side.

Goulding has shown himself to be a far better centre in his absence - Madge had a blind spot there. Whenever the ball went in their direction it was panic stations.

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It's a shame we can't allow discussions like this on the open forum, but history shows us that we just can't. If we do, within a week or two the whole forum will be clogged with trolls who only want to disrupt threads and slag people off. That's not what this forum is about.

So, for the benefit of the OP, our rule is that all matters relating to rugby union, whether about the game itself, or ex-league players who now play it, go into a separate sub-section of the forum which is visible only to members who have made at least 100 trouble-free posts in the other sections like this one.

This way, we get to see who has joined to troll (and get rid of them before they do any major damage) and who has joined to engage in genuine discussion. Anyone in the latter category is welcome on here.

Anyone who has little or no appreciation of Rugby League, and finds it difficult mustering 100 posts, is on the wrong forum anyway.

Hope this helps.

(This thread would usually go into the cross-code forum now, but as the OP won't be able to see it in there, I'm locking it and leaving it here).

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