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Castleford Tigers CEO Steve Ferres resigns

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Why are they aligning a merger?

Could one club simply not replace the other if that scenario played out? (which I hope it doesn't)

It seems a shame when Castleford have just beaten Leeds in front of 9,000 and Fev are upgrading the ground and have just had two 2,000 plus attendances.

Hopefully there is an investor out there. Salford's situation looked terminal and then came the hour, came the man.

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Steve Ferres has resigned so there's a merger ?

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How did that happen ?

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Steve Ferres has resigned so there's a merger ?

:blink:

How did that happen ?

Same way that it was thought that Sheffield & Huddersfield would make a good combination. :lol:

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Same way that it was thought that Sheffield & Huddersfield would make a good combination. :lol:

Ah yes ! And Steve Ferres had resigned from Sheffield only six years earlier ! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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And, of course, Wakey don't have a new ground yet. If us and Cas did merge it could mean bye bye Wildcats.

it certainly could Terry,

Wakefield, I suspect, could do enough to demonstrate that the new stadium is happening and theyre doing very well in all other departments, I also doubt that in this hypethetical scenario that the RFL would see both of the experienced SL clubs from WMDC drop out of the top league.

To set the record straight here, I'm not saying that a merger IS happening, I'm merely speculating that the conditions might be such that it becomes a stronger option, you know encouraging debate, speculating the stuff message boards are made for.

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And, of course, Wakey don't have a new ground yet. If us and Cas did merge it could mean bye bye Wildcats.

Oh my goodness Mr. Mullaney, talking about mergers down "Calder" way in a positive fashion!!

Surely you weren't part of the "Merging on the ridiculous" pitch invasion campaign seventeen years ago for it to come to this?

It will NEVER work.

As for your mean post about how Wakey could be left out in the cold how could you??

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Why is it when something goes wrong at one of the 'wakefield district clubs people talk about mergers??? Cas seem to have directors that want change but at their pace with no money to back it. Looking from the outside I reckon they should put the club up for sale and let somebody else run the club. The potential is huge! It's a rugby town through and through, run properly they could get 11,000 crowds every home game and have 17 local players in the team...

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Why is it when something goes wrong at one of the 'wakefield district clubs people talk about mergers??? Cas seem to have directors that want change but at their pace with no money to back it. Looking from the outside I reckon they should put the club up for sale and let somebody else run the club. The potential is huge! It's a rugby town through and through, run properly they could get 11,000 crowds every home game and have 17 local players in the team...

Thats idealistic nonsense!

Castleford as a business are in no shape whatsoever to be put up on the market as a going concern, there are too many charges against their assetts, there are too many Directors loans to be repaid. Unless a deal could be struck with the Tigers creditors, Bank, JF, RW and others it would cost millions to just buy the club lock stock and barrell, then theres the years it would take to rebuild the income streams just to break even. Sport is not a profit making business so it would have to be a hugely wealthy businessman who was'nt bothered about laying out a 7 figure sum and having no real prospect of ever seeing his money again.

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Maybe the RFL stopped paying his wages?

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1. A CEO resigns

2. The whole of rugby is speculative meltdown

FACT: Maybe we should be really innovative and wait for some facts?

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1. A CEO resigns

2. The whole of rugby is speculative meltdown

FACT: Maybe we should be really innovative and wait for some facts?

I think the point is with castleford you wont get any facts!!!

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Oh my goodness Mr. Mullaney, talking about mergers down "Calder" way in a positive fashion!!

Surely you weren't part of the "Merging on the ridiculous" pitch invasion campaign seventeen years ago for it to come to this?

It will NEVER work.

As for your mean post about how Wakey could be left out in the cold how could you??

Hang on Parky, I didn't start this nor am I ever likely to condone any sort of merger for any RL club. There was a suggestion that the planets ie Fev & Cas are aligning. Merely pointing out to Omega that its only a few months ago that Wakey were on their backside and could be again if Newmarket doesn't come off.

I fail to see Omega's reasoning that Fev would struggle to get a SL licence. What more do they have to prove I'd have to ask? Provided the crowds continue their current trend, as Far as I can see the club ticks every required box, unlike certain SL incumbents.

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Statement: Jack Fulton, Chairman

In response to this morning’s announcement of chief executive Steve Ferres’ resignation, Castleford Tigers chairman Jack Fulton has issued the following statement:

“I would like to thank Steve for his efforts during his time at the club and wish him well for the future.

“For over 20 years I have supported this club financially to a substantial amount with the aim of keeping it going as a Super League club ready for the day when it can support itself. While disappointed by Steve’s resignation, this position remains unchanged. We look to the future and a real opportunity now exists for somebody new to come into the chief executive’s role and drive the club forward.”

The club invites applicants to apply for the job. CVs are to be sent with a covering letter to the club for attention of Jack Fulton, Chairman.

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Hang on Parky, I didn't start this nor am I ever likely to condone any sort of merger for any RL club. There was a suggestion that the planets ie Fev & Cas are aligning. Merely pointing out to Omega that its only a few months ago that Wakey were on their backside and could be again if Newmarket doesn't come off.

I fail to see Omega's reasoning that Fev would struggle to get a SL licence. What more do they have to prove I'd have to ask? Provided the crowds continue their current trend, as Far as I can see the club ticks every required box, unlike certain SL incumbents.

Terry,

I beleive Fev should have the chance to bid for a franchise and should be judged on their merits, if that happened they could quite easily win a franchise and be in SL. Unfortunately I don't think it suits the powers that be to have 2 SL clubs from WMDC and if one should go (Cas or Wakey) I dont think theyll be in a rush to give Fev a franchise whether they deserve it or not.

Hyperthetically, If Wakefield get into Newmarket and continue to grow then maybe just maybe the RFL SLE whoever would consider another WMDC club if it were extremely strong.

Lets be honest if the RFL ESL get their way there wont be any WMDC clubs in SL in 20 or 30 years time, having said that the way theyre going there might not be a RL or SL by then.

When I say the planets are aligning Im not referring to Cas & Fev but rather to the brewing of a perfect storm which might be throwing up a scenario where Caas & Fev might be mutually served by a merger. As I said its purely conjecture and speculating for the purpose of a debate on a message board nothing more

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Terry,

I beleive Fev should have the chance to bid for a franchise and should be judged on their merits, if that happened they could quite easily win a franchise and be in SL. Unfortunately I don't think it suits the powers that be to have 2 SL clubs from WMDC and if one should go (Cas or Wakey) I dont think theyll be in a rush to give Fev a franchise whether they deserve it or not.

Hyperthetically, If Wakefield get into Newmarket and continue to grow then maybe just maybe the RFL SLE whoever would consider another WMDC club if it were extremely strong.

Lets be honest if the RFL ESL get their way there wont be any WMDC clubs in SL in 20 or 30 years time, having said that the way theyre going there might not be a RL or SL by then.

When I say the planets are aligning Im not referring to Cas & Fev but rather to the brewing of a perfect storm which might be throwing up a scenario where Caas & Fev might be mutually served by a merger. As I said its purely conjecture and speculating for the purpose of a debate on a message board nothing more

But if the RFL have no intention of giving Fev a Licence then surely they'd have said so by now. There's every confidence from within the club that we have a great chance of securing SL status next time around. I understand the Club has had substantial dialogue with the RFL along the journey which has taken the club it's present strong position. Time will tell I suppose.

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Cas are a joke of a club who shouldnt be in SL. They offer nothing and cant afford to be in it. The board keep coming out with rubbish like a new stadium, moving forward etc to make it look like things are going well to cover up the major problems at the club. RW and the board for me, are killing Cas, but are too stubborn and arrogant to admit it. The future of Cas right now looks bad. The fans deserve better as do the players and Coaching staff. Lets see some honesty from the Cas board and atleast admit they have problems and not just ignore them.

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But if the RFL have no intention of giving Fev a Licence then surely they'd have said so by now.

Why ? :huh:

Why wouldn't they simply go through the established process next year ?

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Statement: Jack Fulton, Chairman

In response to this morning’s announcement of chief executive Steve Ferres’ resignation, Castleford Tigers chairman Jack Fulton has issued the following statement:

“I would like to thank Steve for his efforts during his time at the club and wish him well for the future.

“For over 20 years I have supported this club financially to a substantial amount with the aim of keeping it going as a Super League club ready for the day when it can support itself. While disappointed by Steve’s resignation, this position remains unchanged. We look to the future and a real opportunity now exists for somebody new to come into the chief executive’s role and drive the club forward.”

The club invites applicants to apply for the job. CVs are to be sent with a covering letter to the club for attention of Jack Fulton, Chairman.

The optimist in me reads that as saying nothing to worry about, I'll keep funding the club and we'll replace Steve. The cynic reads it as I'll pay what I can and nothing is going to change as I don't want to move aside for new ideas and investment.

Time will tell which is right.

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Why ? :huh:

Why wouldn't they simply go through the established process next year ?

That's basically what I'm saying Richard. There is a process to go through which is available to all with set criteria which Rovers are meeting just now. Omega is saying that Rovers will struggle to get a licence purely because of established clubs already in the WMDC area. My point is that through the channels of dialogue which have taken place between the club and RFL, Rovers will surely have a good idea as to their chances in this respect.

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Cas are one of the (thankfully) ever diminishing group of SL clubs who have a board who are simply not up to the demands of running a modern professional rugby league club. Steve Ferres isn't exactly what you'd call a completer/finisher, he's been at Wakey, Cas, York & Sheffield? at least, so I wouldn't read too much into him quitting, but Cas are a shambles off the pitch and really need some new blood in the boardroom to get the club back on track.

If they fail to do so, you can see Fev replacing Cas at the next licencing round.

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Cas are one of the (thankfully) ever diminishing group of SL clubs who have a board who are simply not up to the demands of running a modern professional rugby league club. Steve Ferres isn't exactly what you'd call a completer/finisher, he's been at Wakey, Cas, York & Sheffield? at least, so I wouldn't read too much into him quitting, but Cas are a shambles off the pitch and really need some new blood in the boardroom to get the club back on track.

If they fail to do so, you can see Fev replacing Cas at the next licencing round.

Good post - totally agree

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Not looking good, I said 12 months ago Catleford had problems and got slammed....... A traditional old club needing new direction, funding and a bit of luck..... So hope they get saved, some of the old time players still remind me of the great old days of the 80's &90's

Beardmore bros, John Joyner, big Kevin ward I thought they were ace, steadman, Blackmore, st.john ellis, Jamie Sandie just a few of the top of my head.

Best wishes and good luck.

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It's a funny old game some times. 2 years ago Wakey were on the brink and Cas had their stadium approved and were all guns ahead to build it. Wakey looked like going out of business, while Cas were looking like becoming competition challengers.

Fast forward to now, Wakey are a model club with a great competitive side, crowds are up and a stadium guaranteed. Conversely Cas stadium is on the rocks, the team s struggling and the future looks bleak. But it shows how fortunes can change quickly in he game. I wouldn't write off Cas yet. However, long-tem, I can't see more than 1 team from the Wakey region being successful.

Those saying Fev should replace them, think about the comp as a whole. If Fev came in, they would be a struggler in the long and short term. I can't ever see them challenging for top honours. Their catchment area is simply too small, and they lack the resources and infrastructure to challenge. Why bring in a side that won't add to the competition? IMO, the region is already served by Wakey.

At least with Widnes and Catalans (when they were admitted to SL) you knew it was likely to be successful in the long-term as hey had the resources, infrastructure and catchment areas to do it. These clubs are now yielding results.

Getting back to the main point, the aim of SL is to be a competitive, strong league where any team can win it. Despite its problems, the competition isnt far off achieving this. Thus I believe any new clubs who come into the comp, should have the potential to challenge. Cas (in its current form) and Fev do not have this.

All IMO

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Thus I believe any new clubs who come into the comp, should have the potential to challenge. Cas (in its current form) and Fev do not have this.

All IMO

You're quite entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong. :P

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