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How poor would it make RL in Wales look if a former Welsh RU international walks straight into the WC squad after a handful of league matches?


It would not make RL in Wales look poor, it would boost the game by providing the team and the game with an experienced, high profile international that will deliver the game in Wales more publicity in Wales than it had before.


Wales RL has 19 clubs (including 2 semi pro), 33 teams and maybe 765 players.

Wales RU has 314 clubs (including 4 pro and 12 semi pro), and 79,800.  


RL has a player base less than 1% of the size of that of RU. It is a no brainer that a player like Powell, who HAS played RL as a junior with Cardiff Demons, would walk straight into the Wales RL team. Powell's wiki entry describes his style as one that would suit RL:


Powell has an unusual style of number 8 play. He is known for his high body position going into contact, which he has been criticised for, as this body position can often lead to turnovers, and many believe that he tries to take on too much responsibility himself with ball in hand.


Welsh posters on another forum have said the same thing.

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As the most important season of international Rugby league prepares to kick off in Canberra, it can be revealed a member of one of Australia’s most famous footballing families is about to outdo his illustrious father and uncles.

Sydney Roosters star Daniel Mortimer has made himself available for Wales. If he plays in the tournament jointly hosted by the Welsh this year, he’ll be the first member of his family to take part in a World Cup.

While having Peter Mortimer for a dad, plus Chris and Steve as uncles, may be somewhat daunting for a young Rugby League player, Daniel will soon in all likelihood be able to boast he has achieved something they didn’t.
The closest any of Canterbury’s favourite sons got to a RLWC was in 1986, when Chris played in a Test that doubled as a qualifier for the 1988 World Cup final, which was a stand-alone match.

“Daniel has mentioned something to me about playing for Wales,” Mortimer’s agent, Steve Gillis, told “I would say discussions are at an early stage. He has to make the team first.”

Gillis wasn’t sure how the former Parramatta five-eighth qualified for Wales but it’s understood to be via the grandparent rule.

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21st April 2013, 11:58

Rugby League’s Commonwealth expansion initiative has entered new territory following an exploratory visit to Sierra Leone by a joint Wales Rugby League-Rugby League European Federation delegation. WRL’s National Development Manager Mark Jones and RLEF General Manager Danny Kazandjian returned from a week in the West African country to investigate opportunities for the sport to make a lasting impression there.


“Sierra Leone was an experience of a lifetime and the memories will be etched deeply forever,” said Jones. “From the moment we touched down we were treated like royalty. Throughout our hectic week we met so many extraordinary people whose enthusiasm for sport is unbridled and their generosity unrivalled. All the students in the schools and universities we visited are very excited about the introduction of rugby league and our trip culminated with the first session at a local beach.


“The impromptu match highlighted the talent the country possesses and bodes well for the future. After returning to Wales I felt humbled that a nation with so little was able to give us so much. The poverty in that part of Africa is evident wherever you go and the only thing holding back the development of sport is the access to facilities and equipment.”



The visit, part of the sport’s project to expand into virgin territories of the Commonwealth following recognition by the Commonwealth Games Federation in 2011, was part-funded by the Welsh Assembly’s Wales-Africa Community Links organisation and will see Wales Rugby League build a community revolving around rugby league - but incorporating education and health elements - in partnership with peer groups in the capital, Freetown.



The trip included meetings with local government officials, media and educational institutions. The delegation received the blessing of the Sierra Leone National Olympic Committee and the Ministry of Education, while the response from the local schools was extremely positive.



“We’d like to thank Wales-Africa Community Links for supporting this project,” said Kazandjian. “The sport is keen to create a cluster of West African nations and, following the first steps that have been taken in Ghana and Nigeria, Sierra Leone is a welcome addition. Mark and I met with unabridged enthusiasm wherever we went and it is now our responsibility to put together a plan that will enable a technical team to head back to Freetown to conduct training courses for the locals.



“Facilities were limited, but we were expecting that, and a number of places we visited have projects to create their own grass fields. The NOC was extremely positive about the project and we will be able to introduce rugby league in several institutions, including the one university that trains the country’s sports teachers.”


Rich in mineral deposits, Sierra Leone, rated the world’s poorest country in 2000, is recovering from a bloody ten-year civil war that ended in 2002.


Wales Rugby League is looking to send out playing kit, balls, cones and football boots in any condition to Sierra Leone. Please contact to organise collection.

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400 local primary school children will be swapping a day in the classroom to tackle the rugby pitch with the North Wales Crusaders as part of Give & Gain Day 2013, taking place on Friday 17 May.


50 volunteers from local businesses will be helping out coaches and teachers for the event. Various companies are also donating fruit, sandwiches and drinks on the day. The project is part of Business in the Community’s (BITC) Give & Gain Day, the UK’s only national day of employee volunteering, where businesses are urged to give back to their local communities. BITC has joined forces with North Wales Crusaders and Wrexham County Borough Council to organise this event.

Hanna Clarke from the North Wales Crusaders says, “NWC are excited to be involved with Give & Gain Day here in Wrexham. All primary schools in Wrexham have been invited to the event. The day will consist of various Rugby League activities. It is an opportunity to get the sport out into the community and with the Rugby League World Cup coming to Wrexham in November it is an ideal time to capture the children’s interest in the sport. Some of our players will also be taking an active role by assisting the coaches in the day’s activities’’

She adds, “We have had a great response from the local business community with various companies sending volunteers and providing goodies for the children to take away at the end of the day. North Wales Crusaders will be donating a FREE child ticket to all those children attending on the day for the next home game after the event against Gloucestershire All Golds on June 2nd.”

Dr Jenny Hunt, Vice President of Ipsen Biopharm Ltd, a biotechnology company operating on the Wrexham Industrial Estate and a major employer in the area said “we are delighted to have a number of company volunteers participating in the Give & Gain Day event. Ipsen employees are actively engaged in Business in the Community initiatives and we pride ourselves on being able to support the local community in this way”.

So far, over 450 volunteers from 20 companies across Wales have committed to taking part in Give & Gain Day 2013. Businesses signed up include, Lloyds Banking Group, Finance Wales, Ipsen Biopharm Ltd and HLN Architects. Employee volunteers will be helping out on projects at schools, community groups and housing associations, doing everything from transforming a playground, painting a hall, to delivering a sports day for children.

Give & Gain Day encourages thousands of people across the globe to spend a working day volunteering for good causes in their local community. Since 2008, over 60,000 people in 31 countries around the world have taken part in the annual event.

Give & Gain Day 2013 in Wales is sponsored by Lloyds Banking Group, RCT Homes and Quicksons, in association with Cardiff Blues and Sport.Cardiff. Give & Gain Day is dedicated to getting thousands of employees out of the office, store or factory to volunteer in their local communities. By making volunteering fun, accessible and inspirational we want to make it something that all businesses give their staff an opportunity to do in work time.

To find out more about Give & Gain Day 2013, please visit:

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How poor would it make RL in Wales look if a former Welsh RU international walks straight into the WC squad after a handful of league matches?

Seriously? How long an apprenticeship did Jonathan Davies have to serve, or going further back John Bevan, or John Mantle, or Jim Mills, or Colin Dixon, or Billy Boston? He shouldn't play just because he is a RU international - he could be another Terry Holmes for all I know - but if he is good enough he should play.

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Seriously? How long an apprenticeship did Jonathan Davies have to serve, or going further back John Bevan, or John Mantle, or Jim Mills, or Colin Dixon, or Billy Boston? He shouldn't play just because he is a RU international - he could be another Terry Holmes for all I know - but if he is good enough he should play.


Terry Holmes had injury problems, but never doubt that he was a very good player who, had he been brought up in RL, would have been a "great".


We got eighteen months out of him and an insurance payout. Not great business admittedly, but we have done worse.

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Like it or not, this could be very good for the WC in Wales. How many Welsh people may possibly go to the opening game just because he is playing. Just think about all the headlines, reports and media interest he will generate in Wales leading upto the opening day games.

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Former Wales star Scott Quinnell believes Andy Powell will fit in well with Wigan after switching codes to rugby league for the next chapter in his career that starts in May.

Powell has signed a two-and-a-half year deal with Wigan Warriors, joining them from Aviva Premiership side Sale Sharks, and could feature for Wales at Rugby League World Cup 2013.

Wigan chairman Ian Lenagan said Brecon-born Powell, who nearly joined the Crusaders when they were in Super League two years ago, would fit into his role with the Warriors in the same way that Quinnell did when he made the move to Wigan in 1994.

Quinnell, 40, whose uncle is Welsh legend Barry John, said: “Andy will be a fantastic attribute for them. He has all the skills and the attributes to be a wonderful rugby league player. He gets across the gain-line and is dynamic."

And, said the former Wales number eight, Powell will find the Wigan fans will make him feel welcome.

“Wigan is a fantastic club and not just the staff but the fans as well. They understand the game and back their side one hundred per cent. He has been living up north for a couple of years now so it's just a change of direction when he walks out of his house from Manchester to Wigan.”

Cross-code switches from Union to League are notoriously difficult for players to adapt and learn how the game is played, but League is a code that Powell has said in the past to enjoying and wanting to try at the top level.

And with the World Cup five months later, Quinnell thinks Powell will be oiled and ready to take on the Italians in Wales' first game at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium on October 26.

“He has five months and he will be fine,” said Quinnell, who played 39 times for Wigan after his switch from Llanelli RFC.

“He might find it difficult going into a different environment and to understand the intricacies of rugby league. The hardest part is running backwards ten metres after each tackle. But I think he will do well and Wigan will help him in every way they can.”


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Possible Wales World Cup Team at this moment in time? You never know :D


1) David James  South Wales Scorpions

2) Elliot Kear  Bradford Bulls

3) Michael Channing  London Broncos

4) Rhys Evans  Warrington Wolves   :lol:

5) Rhys Williams Warrington Wolves

6) Lee Briers Warrington Wolves :O

7) Daniel Mortimer Sydney Roosters

8) Craig Kopcsak  Huddersfield Giants

9) Lloyd White Widnes Vikings

10) Andy Powell Wigan Warriors

11) Jordan James  Salford City Reds

12) Tyson Frizell  St George Dragons

13) Ben Flower  Wigan Warriors


Others Worth a Mention - Ben Evans, Gil Dudson, Rhodri Lloyd, Jacob Emmit


Never know what else could happen!!! :rolleyes:  Bring on RLWC2013

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On Friday 26th of April, at The Gnoll, Neath, Wales Rugby League will make history by playing all five Champion Schools finals at the same venue. The event promises to be a spectacular day for spectators and players alike.


The Carnegie Champions Schools continues to be the flagship competition for the development of grassroots rugby league in Wales. The 2012/2013 season has seen 65 secondary schools and a 145 teams enter the Welsh regional rounds from Year 7 to 6th Form age grades. Each regional winner progressed to the knockout stages with the top two meeting in the Welsh finals and both finalists progressing to the UK National rounds.


The Year 7 final will see Ystlafera take on Cwm Rhymni for the Welsh Title, these schools have a great rivalry in this tournament. In 2012, their Year 10’s met in the first all Welsh UK semi- final which doubled as the Welsh Final where Ysgol Gyfun Gymraeg Ystalyfera beat fellow Welsh speaking school Ysgol Gyfun Cwm Rhymni 42-18, Ystalyfera also took the Year 7 Welsh title that year beating Cwm Rhymni 28 – 14. Cwm Rhymni will be out for revenge and have progressed to the last 8 of the UK competition beating Ryburn Valley from Yorkshire 38-18.


Cwm Rhymni will then contest the Year 8 final with St Josephs(Port Talbot), Cwm Rhymni will be out to go one further and take the title that eluded them in the final in 2012, but St Joseph’s will have other ideas. Both sides performed gallantly in their UK rounds, and this promises to be a mouth-watering fixture.


The next final will again see Ystalyfera play Lewis Boys in the Year 10 Welsh Final. Lewis Boys having been playing rugby league at school for 3 years. In 2011 they won the year 11 Welsh title and got to the last 8 of the British cup. This season the Year 10 have beaten St Josephs(Newport) former British Champions 2011 and reigning Welsh Champions, Croesyceiliog and Afon Taf in the East Regional and went on to beat Cwm Rhymni in the Welsh semi- final.


The penultimate match will feature St Joseph’s(Newport) versus Pencoed in the Year 9 final. Pencoed will start the game as favourites as they are reigning Year 8 Welsh Champions and are through to the last 8 of the UK National round. St Josephs will be out to burst their bubble and will be very well drilled by a Stefan Sankala a previous winner of the RFL teacher of the year 2011.


The concluding match of this extraordinary day will be the Year 11 final, where St John’s(Aberdare) will battle it out with Strady(Llanelli) for the converted crown. Both schools are new to the game and competition but have impressed in their regional and semi-finals, beating the pre-tournament favourites on their march to the Gnoll.


Wales Rugby League would like to invite you to this fantastic event to see the next generation of players perform to the highest standards.


Welsh Finals Timetable

Year 7 Cwm Rhymni v Ystalaferra Kick-Off 10.30am

Year 8 St Joseph’s v Cwm Rhymni Kick-Off – 11.45am

Year 10 Lewis Boys v Ystalaferra Kick-Off – 1.00pm

Year 9 Pencoed v St Josephs(Newport) Kick-Off – 2.15pm

Year 11St Johns v Strady Kick-Off – 3.30pm



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Get your final tickets now! And Crusaders will receive cash back…

You can now purchase your tickets for the Northern Rail Cup Finals Day, when both the Northern Rail Cup Final and Bowl Final will take place, directly from the club.


After last night’s 36-24 victory over Hemel Stags, North Wales secured their place in the inaugural Bowl Final at The Shay, Halifax later in July.

Crusaders have been allocated tickets in the West Stand Central Area at £15 for adults and £10 for concessions.

The club will receive 50% cash back on any sales made by Wednesday 26 June, so as well as enjoying a spectacular Finals Day, you will also help the club out at the same time.

Anyone wishing to take advantage of these offers should contact the club on 08432 896 407 or You will receive a voucher from the club and then your ticket will be sent to you from the RFL in plenty of time for the Finals Day.


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Local boy Massam launches Rugby League World Cup 2013 diary

For one person, playing in the Rugby League World Cup 2013 in Wrexham will be a dream come true.

Local boy Rob Massam has enjoyed a meteoric rise since making his debut for the North Wales Crusaders in 2012

In just two short years he has gone from playing amateur rugby to representing Wales on the international stage.

And now Massam, 25, who lives near Moss Valley, is looking to live every boy’s dream by playing for his country at RLWC2013.

The powerful winger has been in scintillating form for the Crusaders, finishing as the club’s top try scorer last season and leading the way this year with 8 so far..

His exploits have already caught the eye of Wales coach Iestyn Harris, who handed Massam his international debut against France in 2012.

And with Wales due to play USA at the Racecourse Ground on Sunday November 3, Massam bid to make the squad will be chronicled with his ‘Rugby League World Cup Diary’ on the Wrexham Council website.

“If I were to only get one more cap for Wales then it would be here at the Racecourse,” he said

“To play for my country in, front of my home crowd, in front of my friends and family, would be incredible. They were all gutted that I didn’t play here against England last year so it would be a huge honour to play for Wales here in Wrexham, especially at RLWC2013.

“The fans here are amazing. They make a lot of noise so if we can get more people in the ground for the USA game then the atmosphere will be incredible.”

On making his debut for Wales, Massam added: “It was unreal - I can’t believe it actually happened. To think that in less than two years I went from playing amateur Rugby League with Chester Gladiators to turning out for Wales was crazy. It still hasn’t sunk in really.

“What made it even more surreal was that I used to see these guys train when I worked at Total Fitness and now I am playing alongside them for Wales. I was really nervous because these were big time professional players, but they were a decent bunch of lads who have really helped me along. Playing for Wales was the best experience of my life.

"Hopefully I can bring that experience to the Crusaders this season and prove that I’m good enough to play at RLWC2013.”

And Massam’s rapid rise from amateur to fully-fledged international has been made all the more remarkable by the fact that he juggles playing for the Crusaders with his day job as a personal trainer.

He said: “Being a personal trainer certainly helps with my fitness. A lot of the guys playing for the Crusaders have other jobs. I have a lot of respect for them because they work long, long hours before coming to training. I do work long hours but I enjoy my job and I have enough time to get a few hours of extra training in.

“But it is hard to juggle everything. We might finish training late one evening and I have to be up to see a client at 6am the following day. But the fact that I enjoy what I do helps with the early starts!”

Starting on Wednesday May 1, you can follow Rob’s bid to make the Wales Squad with his ‘World Cup’ diary online at

Tickets for Wales vs. USA are available by calling 0844 847 2013 (24hrs) or online at .

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Gareth Thomas urges Wrexham to get behind Rugby League World Cup

Rugby legend Gareth Thomas has urged Wrexham to show its support for the Rugby League World Cup as the town prepares to take the global stage.

The former dual-code Welsh international returned to the town this week as part of his role as a Rugby League World Cup Ambassador.

The Glyndwr University Racecourse Ground will stage the Group D encounter between Wales and USA on Sunday, November 3 before they host a quarter-final tie on Saturday, November 16.

Thomas, a veteran of four World Cups, is no stranger to Wrexham having spent two years with the Crusaders.

He spoke about his time at Wrexham with great affection and hopes the town will get behind the major sporting spectacle.

“This is a massive opportunity for the town because the eyes of the world will be watching Wrexham,” Thomas said.

“A sporting event like this attracts global attention and it is an important occasion for everybody who cares about Wrexham, and cares about the growth of Wrexham.

“The people of Wrexham need to come out in force and make it a day, which can hopefully be remembered for the result, but also more.

“I truly believe Wrexham, as far as sport goes, is a sleeping giant and I hope the Rugby League World Cup coming here will wake it up. From my time playing here, certainly amongst the younger generation, a lot of pope that aspire to be in touch with their heroes and see them for real, not just on TV.”

Thomas has built a successful career away from the rugby field since retiring. But he hopes he can give the Welsh team a boost in his role as the tournament ambassador.

“I would love to play but my days of wishing to play, the realisation, are gone,” he said.

“The good thing is that I can still be involved in making it a great day. I can’t have an effect on Wales winning or losing, I have come to terms with that, but I can have an effect on hopefully making it the best possible circumstance for them to win.

“The responsibility of playing for your country and helping them win or lose is massive, this responsibility of giving them (the players) the environment to be able to win and enjoy the occasion, and not only for them but the children and spectators, is maybe bigger.”


Looks like a useful little team !


Is Gareth Thomas doing anything yet to promote RLWC 2013? Wasn't he to be a RLWC 2013 "ambassador" ?

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Widnes utility forward Ben Davies has joined Championship 1 side South Wales Scorpions on a one-month loan deal.

The 23-year-old has made one substitute appearance this season for the Vikings and coach Denis Betts feels he will benefit from the game time the Scorpions can offer.


"Being too old to feature in the U19s competition, Ben found himself at a bit of a crossroads and with nowhere to play," said Betts.


"He's now in a position to get some games under his belt, and receive some quality coaching while he's there."

Davies, who came through the junior ranks at Wigan, could make his debut for the Scorpions against Rochdale Hornets on 28 April.

He is contracted to Widnes until the end of the 2013 Super League season and has made 42 appearances for the club overall, during which he has scored six tries.

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WALES Rugby League has appointed Chris Thair as Chief Operating Officer, a key appointment in the build up to the 2013 World Cup.


Thair joins the WRL following over a decades service at the Rugby Football League in senior executive positions across the community and professional arms of the sport, most recently as Salary Cap and Licensing Manager.


This is such an exciting period to be joining Wales Rugby League due to the growing popularity of the sport and it being World Cup year” said Thair.


I wish to build upon much of the positive work that has taken place in recent years and I’m excited by the challenge ahead in moving forward the business of the National Governing Body and, most importantly, the sport for this very proud nation”.


After joining the RFL from London Broncos RLFC in 2001, Thair was a hugely influential figure in the sports community department which moved from having a handful of staff and very little budget to being awarded £29m early in 2009. Within this period Chris had progressed to the position of a national community manager; Thair then moved over to the professional game as Club Support Manager, working with all of the Super League and Championships clubs and their charitable foundations. Having helped to develop a number of the clubs partner charitable foundations,


Thair is credited with the idea of Rugby League Cares, a new central umbrella charity linked to the RFL. Thair was also integral to the recent Championship review which resulted in major changes to tier 2 of the playing pyramid with the introduction of new clubs, a change to central distributions and the introduction of a new cup final for Championship One teams. Having previously worked with David Waite in the Performance department and playing a central role in Super League Licensing, Thair’s experience will be a strong addition to WRL.


WRL Chairman Brian Juliff welcomed Thair saying “We are delighted Chris has accepted this new role because we believe his experience will prove to be invaluable in progressing our governance and delivery. We believe he is going to be a great asset to WRL”.


His role will see him joining the WRL Board as an Executive Director working with WRL Chairman Brian Juliff in a crucial year as Wales play in the Rugby League World Cup in October plus other World Cups at Wheelchair and Student level.

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Scorpions boss delighted over double Rochdale win


South Wales Scorpions coach Dave Clark was delighted with his first team and under 20s last weekend after both sides turned over Rochdale Hornets.


The first team won a dramatic game 30-28 at The Gnoll when the winning try was scored with just five seconds left on the clock and the conversion kicked after the hooter sounded, while the reserves won 28-20 at Rochdale after twice being behind in the game.


For the first team, it was their inaugural win at home this season, and this after winning all their away games, so Clark was extra happy to claim all three points.


“It was a great result for us and it keeps us in touch with the competition at the top of the table,” he said. “It was our first home win for the season so I hope the support lifts now and the Rugby League fans in South Wales rally behind these boys as they’re all working hard.


“We had a good first half but we knew we didn’t had enough points to win the game. We gave them a lot of field opportunities from about 30 minutes in, with dropped balls and opportunities to score tries and we knew they had the calibre of player to do just that.


“We made too many mistakes and they capitalised on that with three good tries. But we showed character and kept going despite all of that, when last year we would have collapsed and let them in a couple more times. We have a better mentality this year in both attack and defence, even when we do make errors, and that showed on Sunday.”


Clark used his full quota of five dual registration players from Super League club Wigan Warriors, one of whom being star man Jack Murphy at full-back, and he believes this certainly helped the young South Wales side to victory.


“Having the Wigan players brought some quality in for us and I hope that our young players can learn from that,” he said.


“We had our strongest side of the year last Sunday. It was also great to have Haydn Peacock back from injury after his ankle problem.


“Now it will be good to see some stability in the side. If we can get the same squad for three or four weeks, I’m sure we can build that stability and also some momentum.


“The dual registration system with Wigan is really working for us. It’s important to us at this stage and we need those players right now. In a few years’ time we probably won’t as we’re massively developing the players to come through the system.”


The player development was evident on Saturday after the reserve side’s 28-20 win over an experienced Rochdale outfit away from home.


Jordan Howells, Rhys Fitzgerald and man of the match Mike Connor each crossed for a brace of tries with Levi Knowles kicking two conversions.


The teams were tied 14-all at the interval but, after Rochdale had taken the lead midway through the second half, the Scorpions scored tries on 60 and 79 minutes to clinch things.


“That was fantastic to get the phone call on Saturday night to hear how well they’d done,” Clark added. “I know we had quite a young side out too as there were a few injuries.


“For those boys to win away was massive. It just shows that our system is working. We’ve some great young kids coming through and they’re competing with these Championship and Championship 1 sides and doing well so that’s good for the future.”



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South Wales Scorpions coach Dave Clark was delighted with his first team and under 20s last weekend after both sides turned over Rochdale Hornets.

Was he glad all over? :P

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So Wigan resrves beat Saints reserves but a stand alone club still tops the table.

So having 5 Wigan players makes them a Wigan reserve side rather than the 12 Scorpions players making them a Scorpion side? How does that work?

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So having 5 Wigan players makes them a Wigan reserve side rather than the 12 Scorpions players making them a Scorpion side? How does that work?


Well five out of 17 makes them a 30% Wigan reserve side and if you add value for SL quality players that can seriously influence the result, there is an even more skewed dependence on Wigan players for the result.


The Scorpions are hardly the poster child for stand alone independence are they ?.

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No, there were Bits and Pieces of poor play.

Oof! I deserved that.

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