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The good Doctor has a medicine cabinet that can cure any ailment SL might bestow upon a club ;) .................its called a wealth of business experience and a ridiculously fat wallet.

Then the good doctor can join the queue behind, Lenegan, McManus, Hughes, Pearson, Hudgell, Moran, O'Connor, Khan, Glover, Caddick etc.

Even the Duke of Westminster couldn't bestow any more on an RL team than the salary cap allows.

And you can't buy a players preference, the good doctor is finding this out......

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LordCharles; Dr Koukash is not unique in the game by having wealth and business acumen,

Apparently his Horses are winners. Shame they don't have stud farms for RL players.

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Apparently his Horses are winners. Shame they don't have stud farms for RL players.

Disturbing mental image!

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Koukash has started off very well with putting a fantastic administration in place. He has since moved onto the playing staff, whilst seemingly bypassing the single, most influential department; coaching.

The administration still has problems with ticketing and attracting attendances which are down on last year.Oh,and the club shop still does not possess any merchandise.

Now we have established how brilliant the administration has been since January,what problem do you have with the coaching ?

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Koukash has started off very well with putting a fantastic administration in place. He has since moved onto the playing staff, whilst seemingly bypassing the single, most influential department; coaching.

Given his comments after last night's game there is quite a focus on coaching and performance to come.

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Now we have established how brilliant the administration has been since January,what problem do you have with the coaching ?

He's not going to build a great club in two months. It will take years.

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Sorry Steve, I may be being thick here, but again how does the fact that Barton is close to BBC Sport in Salford make Salford the most important club in RL?

Because Salford, and only Salford, have the location and facilities to normalise the idea of rugby league in the minds of BBC Sport executives. It's as simple as that.

A big, powerful, SL club on the very doorstep of BBC Sport. You honestly can't see the value in that?

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no not really.....but the RFL should move to media city to be next to the bbc though...

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This guy is going to be a laughing stock unless he tries to get a decent squad together, instead of trying to buy the best players in super league. It's about progression and someone should tell him that it isn't just going to happen. Some of the players he's mentioned trying to buy are just embarrassing.

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He's not going to build a great club in two months. It will take years.

Well,that is two of us who understand that. :)

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This guy is going to be a laughing stock unless he tries to get a decent squad together, instead of trying to buy the best players in super league. It's about progression and someone should tell him that it isn't just going to happen. Some of the players he's mentioned trying to buy are just embarrassing.

Did they call Moran a laughing stock when he forked out 200k for the best center in the league when Warrington were dwelling in the basement?

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This guy is going to be a laughing stock unless he tries to get a decent squad together, instead of trying to buy the best players in super league. It's about progression and someone should tell him that it isn't just going to happen. Some of the players he's mentioned trying to buy are just embarrassing.

Koukash is trying to get a decent squad together, it just so happens that within that squad he'd like a major signing which signifies his intention that the squad will be more than just decent. The time of year is clearly difficult for what he is trying to achieve and currently relies on clubs being tempted to accept the transfer fees he indicated he was prepared to pay. We'll just have to wait and see what happens with a view to next year as players come off contract. Then there'll be another player in the market who can pay the full salary cap. Let's see what happens then.

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1. A big, powerful, SL club on the very doorstep of BBC Sport.

2. You honestly can't see the value in that?

1. Yes they call it Wigan don't they.

2. To try to say that the BBC doesn't know about Superleague but will somehow now discover it due to the move to Salford - do you honestly believe that

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Did they call Moran a laughing stock when he forked out 200k for the best center in the league when Warrington were dwelling in the basement?

Yes. They did. I think you mean Martin Gleeson. Moran wasted a lot of time and money on bringing in good players until he finally got serious and tackled the culture of the club off the field.

You may have forgotten, but until Moran appointed Tony Smith Wire were an expensive laughing stock. Which is where Salford appear to be heading right now. I think this guy, like many rich men before him, is about to discover that building a rugby league club is a hell of a lot more difficult than it looks. That's fine, but I hope he doesn't get bored before he learns that lesson.

In the meantime the price of every player in the league just doubled when its Salford on the phone asking about his contract.

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1. Yes they call it Wigan don't they.

2. To try to say that the BBC doesn't know about Superleague but will somehow now discover it due to the move to Salford - do you honestly believe that

You're missing the point. BBC Sport already knows about Wigan. It's a strange place where the locals have a fixation on a peculiar Northern quirk.

The point is to normalise the game in the minds of the BBC and therefore, by extension, lots of other people. Salford are a key vehicle for doing that.

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The administration still has problems with ticketing and attracting attendances which are down on last year.Oh,and the club shop still does not possess any merchandise.

Now we have established how brilliant the administration has been since January,what problem do you have with the coaching ?

By administration, I mean Chief Exec, Graham Lowe and Andrew Ryan. Not the ticket and scarf sellers.

Phil Veivers isn't a great coach, that much is obvious. Great coaches make average squads, good. Average coaches make great squads, average.

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By administration, I mean Chief Exec, Graham Lowe and Andrew Ryan. Not the ticket and scarf sellers.

Phil Veivers isn't a great coach, that much is obvious. Great coaches make average squads, good. Average coaches make great squads, average.

I don't think TwoBlues was on about the people doing the selling. There are problems with ticketing. For the HKR game, I bought my ticket from the little ticket office at the back of the South Stand, walked 10 metres to the turnstile where they scanned the ticket, then said they had to re-scan it, re-scanned it and said it was not valid and I had to go back to the ticket office for a replacement. That was not, IMO, the fault of the ticket seller, it was a fault in the system. And if there is a fault in the system, it is a problem with administration.

You're right about great coaches, but we don't even have an average squad yet. Your point stands, though. The jury is still out on PV and, by association, SL.

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By administration, I mean Chief Exec, Graham Lowe and Andrew Ryan. Not the ticket and scarf sellers.

Phil Veivers isn't a great coach, that much is obvious. Great coaches make average squads, good. Average coaches make great squads, average.

It's Andrew Chalmers.The administration,in my opinion will be first class,but until such time as Phil Veivers actually has a squad then judgement cannot possibly be made.

A patient owner,over at Widnes,seems to be reaping the rewards tonight,while a different individual may make friends with the supporters but the coach hasn't as yet had average or great results.Perhaps they need an ex-Salford half-back playing for them

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Adam-Pearson-vows-Hull-FC-level/story-17079387-detail/story.html#axzz2MPhF2gtq

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Because Salford, and only Salford, have the location and facilities to normalise the idea of rugby league in the minds of BBC Sport executives. It's as simple as that.

A big, powerful, SL club on the very doorstep of BBC Sport. You honestly can't see the value in that?

No, because Parky is the oracle of this forum whose knowledge transcends the mere opinions of the other mortals who he permits to post here.

I am not sure what qualifies him to be more well informed and wise than we mere mortals; I just know that he is.

Do not question the word of Parky. Parky knows best.

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It's Andrew Chalmers.The administration,in my opinion will be first class,but until such time as Phil Veivers actually has a squad then judgement cannot possibly be made.

A patient owner,over at Widnes,seems to be reaping the rewards tonight,while a different individual may make friends with the supporters but the coach hasn't as yet had average or great results.Perhaps they need an ex-Salford half-back playing for them

http://www.thisishul...#axzz2MPhF2gtq

I assume the above link is a reference to Holdsworth, whom Veivers had in his squad last season. Alongside Patten, Moon, Smith, et al it was a more than capable squad, therefore judgement can be made.

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No, because Parky is the oracle of this forum whose knowledge transcends the mere opinions of the other mortals who he permits to post here.

I am not sure what qualifies him to be more well informed and wise than we mere mortals; I just know that he is.

Do not question the word of Parky. Parky knows best.

Grow up Pottsy.

The usual knee jerk reaction to something someone doesn't want to hear or doesn't like is getting all personal instead of supplying a counter argument.

Cut the extremely childish stuff that does you no favours and answer the point I make.

Salford are one of only FIVE SL clubs close to BBC sport's new headquarters, so why do you or Steve or Martin Sadler believe that Salford can exclusively grow off the back of the Beeb's presence.

When the BBC sport was in Shepherds Bush was it QPR that were growing big because they were on the Beeb's doorstep?

Just give me a reasoned and logical answer to why Salford are the most important club in the game?

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Its certainly shaking up RL as we know it and it may be a good thing, surely paying a few fees to clubs in need of cash may be a good injection of funds in the game

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Grow up Pottsy.

The usual knee jerk reaction to something someone doesn't want to hear or doesn't like is getting all personal instead of supplying a counter argument.

Cut the extremely childish stuff that does you no favours and answer the point I make.

Salford are one of only FIVE SL clubs close to BBC sport's new headquarters, so why do you or Steve or Martin Sadler believe that Salford can exclusively grow off the back of the Beeb's presence.

When the BBC sport was in Shepherds Bush was it QPR that were growing big because they were on the Beeb's doorstep?

Just give me a reasoned and logical answer to why Salford are the most important club in the game?

Nothing personal, Parky. And, as it happens, I don't buy into the idea that Salford is the most strategically important club in the game. That's not the issue.

What I do get sick of on these threads is the way you shout down the opinions of others, whilst dispensing your own opinions as though they're documented facts.

All things said, other than what we read in League Express and the tittle tattle we pick up online, none of us really know what's discussed in the 'corridors of power' so all opinions (even the crackpot ones) are equally valid.

If you do possess a hotline to Red Hall I apologise but I suspect you don't.

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You're missing the point. BBC Sport already knows about Wigan. It's a strange place where the locals have a fixation on a peculiar Northern quirk.

Rugby league and winning trophies?

Wigan's also fairly typical of the north and its standard non Manc, Scouse, Loiner stereotypes rather than being strange.

The point is to normalise the game in the minds of the BBC and therefore, by extension, lots of other people. Salford are a key vehicle for doing that.

Outside of the Quays, Salford and its hinterland is an absolute dump and conforms to much of the negative northern stereotypes. Salford are not a quick fix on public perception - RL stereotypes and prejudice run deep. The best way of changing people's views is to fill the modern stadiums around the league so that TV viewers see it as a sport on the up. We've been trying to make that happen for years but progress is slow and even stagnant in many areas, including Salford. One of these days we'll just have to accept that we are a minority sport and will remain one despite everyone's best efforts. I can't understand why the sport isn't more popular, but it just does not connect with a significant proportion of the population.

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What I do get sick of on these threads is the way you shout down the opinions of others, whilst dispensing your own opinions as though they're documented facts.

What way is this? How am I "shouting" where do I claim reasoned and logical arguments IMHO as "fact"?

How are all opinions equally valid when many are shown to be factually incorrect by research?

What you espouse is the ability of people to say anything they want, not back it up and then be respected for that.

If you don't like my style (and rest assured I like yours even less), then don't try to be the self styled people's champion, which you are not.

Don't be personal which you were, don't be utterly childish which you were.

Just grow up and follow the site rules.

Do the reasonable thing and put me on ignore now.

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