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STOP CALLING US 'LEAGUE'!

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I was at a members' meeting at Hemel Stags last night and they showed some of the fixture cards that are being distributed locally.

On those, they've gone for referring to 'Pro Rugby'. Thinking being (I believe) that it's important people in the area appreciate Hemel Stags are a (semi) pro club and not just a pub team and also acknowledging that referring explicitly to rugby league could be a barrier to some people.

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Billy Slater tweeted yesterday to say goodbye and thanked everyone for the welcome they were given etc,and he also said "you people certainly love League"

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Seriously, who actually gives a damn?!

Lots of people. I still think its an insult to TGG.

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In the antipodes Rugby League is indeed called League to distiguish it from Rugby (Union). Although it should be said that when Rugby League Week dropped the "Rugby" part of the title a backlash from fans forced the weekly to repent.

In the deep south of the UK most people refer to "Rugby" without being aware that there are two separate codes in existence. That said to call the game league in the UK would cause confusion with the Football League.

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In the antipodes Rugby League is indeed called League to distiguish it from Rugby (Union). Although it should be said that when Rugby League Week dropped the "Rugby" part of the title a backlash from fans forced the weekly to repent.

In the deep south of the UK most people refer to "Rugby" without being aware that there are two separate codes in existence. That said to call the game league in the UK would cause confusion with the Football League.

Why do they need to distinguish from RU if RL us so much bigger?

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Why do they need to distinguish from RU if RL us so much bigger?

Perhaps you should read the thread.

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Why do they need to distinguish from RU if RL us so much bigger?

Just to be clear, do you think they should have a footy section, a footy section and a footy section, then leave it to readers to guess which one is for the AFL, rugby union, and rugby league instead?

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Now that, I didn't know.

That means that you must have me on ignore.

And for that I am offended.

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I was in Cas today on Willowbridge Lane, the sign outside Cas RU club says exactly that "Castleford RUFC"

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That means that you must have me on ignore.

And for that I am offended.

Did someone say something?

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I was in Cas today on Willowbridge Lane, the sign outside Cas RU club says exactly that "Castleford RUFC"

They were formed after 1895

St. Helens were formed before then and used to have st Helen's RFC painted on the main stand.

I'm a member of Yarnbury union club. They quite legitimately style themselves Yarnbury RFC.

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That means that you must have me on ignore.

And for that I am offended.

Not so. I probably just drifted off... ;)

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Just getting a mention as a Sport should cut it.

The game needs a group cuddle not a whinge over what it is called in different areas, its not strong enough Internationally for name squabbling at this point.

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I quite enjoy being in a situation where I am able to say that I am a Rugby fan, particularly when I think that the person I have told will assume that I mean Union. When I shock them by saying it is League, I often manage to get them to want to know why or what is the difference.

As long as they seem interested, I like to explain briefly the origins of folk football, the reason for the split in the handling code in 1895, the way that League has always had to battle for its right to exist and how the Rugby Union authorities were able to get away with what they did to us over the years, both in this country and internationally.

The chances are that whoever you are talking to is probably hearing this for the first time. Keeping our name as Rugby League, is one way of promoting our game in the 21st century while at the same time showing that we are proud of our history and know what we are talking about.

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I quite enjoy being in a situation where I am able to say that I am a Rugby fan, particularly when I think that the person I have told will assume that I mean Union. When I shock them by saying it is League, I often manage to get them to want to know why or what is the difference.

As long as they seem interested, I like to explain briefly the origins of folk football, the reason for the split in the handling code in 1895, the way that League has always had to battle for its right to exist and how the Rugby Union authorities were able to get away with what they did to us over the years, both in this country and internationally.

The chances are that whoever you are talking to is probably hearing this for the first time. Keeping our name as Rugby League, is one way of promoting our game in the 21st century while at the same time showing that we are proud of our history and know what we are talking about.

Good post

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I quite enjoy being in a situation where I am able to say that I am a Rugby fan, particularly when I think that the person I have told will assume that I mean Union. When I shock them by saying it is League, I often manage to get them to want to know why or what is the difference.

As long as they seem interested, I like to explain briefly the origins of folk football, the reason for the split in the handling code in 1895, the way that League has always had to battle for its right to exist and how the Rugby Union authorities were able to get away with what they did to us over the years, both in this country and internationally.

The chances are that whoever you are talking to is probably hearing this for the first time. Keeping our name as Rugby League, is one way of promoting our game in the 21st century while at the same time showing that we are proud of our history and know what we are talking about.

And how many times do you get to tell someone the whole story? How many are actually bothered about the split or the rugby apartheid that followed and will still be with you all the way?

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And how many times do you get to tell someone the whole story? How many are actually bothered about the split or the rugby apartheid that followed and will still be with you all the way?

How many people will just presume you like Rugby Union. I work with children and they will often come up to me and think that they are making me happy by saying that they watched the rugby or are going to play for a rugby team but where I work it almost always means Union. They are too young to grasp the idea that there are two similar but different versions of rugby. The irony is that in trying to please me, Rugby Union is actually getting the benefit.

We should have changed names completely when we went from Northern Rugby Union to Rugby League. It would have saved a whole lot of bother and allowed us to stand independently as our own sport. We are now too attached to 'Rugby' to drop it but it will forever link us to the other more successful code which is a huge hindrance when trying to spread the game. We may get some benefits from the link but in the long run I think it has proved and will prove detrimental.

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And how many times do you get to tell someone the whole story? How many are actually bothered about the split or the rugby apartheid that followed and will still be with you all the way?

I would guess that unless someone is already a rugby fan of some description, most people wouldn't care about the split or the RU banning of RL players. When meeting people, you don't want to be that guy who is a bit of a bore when it comes to their interests. I save that for when I've known them a while :).

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I would guess that unless someone is already a rugby fan of some description, most people wouldn't care about the split or the RU banning of RL players. When meeting people, you don't want to be that guy who is a bit of a bore when it comes to their interests. I save that for when I've known them a while :).

On the contrary, in my experience when non rugby people hear about the RU ban, a lot of them find it pretty outrageous.

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How many people will just presume you like Rugby Union. I work with children and they will often come up to me and think that they are making me happy by saying that they watched the rugby or are going to play for a rugby team but where I work it almost always means Union. They are too young to grasp the idea that there are two similar but different versions of rugby. The irony is that in trying to please me, Rugby Union is actually getting the benefit.

We should have changed names completely when we went from Northern Rugby Union to Rugby League. It would have saved a whole lot of bother and allowed us to stand independently as our own sport. We are now too attached to 'Rugby' to drop it but it will forever link us to the other more successful code which is a huge hindrance when trying to spread the game. We may get some benefits from the link but in the long run I think it has proved and will prove detrimental.

I'm not sure it is a hindrance though especially now with the open gangway. Union has spent a lot of time and effort spreading the game, and in some ways this has helped RL. We are still rugby, just a different type.

I think RU will very gradually become more like RL. The question is, which direction will RL go in? Will it converge with RU or diverge (e.g. by dropping scrums, reducing the no. of players etc)?

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