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castleford in the mire?

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Sounds like mr Fulton is putting in just enough money to keep cas ticking along without any progression, maybe he should raise his game or sell up!!

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doesn't look good does it??

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This just in: someone has resigned from something.

in other news: the world continues to turn on its axis

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that's three from senior posts at one club in a week..............i think that's news.

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Rats, sinking ship, abandon etc.

People leave their jobs and they are rats?

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Is scat porn about people getting off on vocal improvisation with wordless nonsense?

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People leave their jobs and they are rats?

Not literally. As I think you well know it's a reference to an age old saying as in " Even the rats abandon a sinking ship". In this context therefore it is referring to the large number of employees leaving all at the same time, when it is speculated that Castleford are in deep if not terminal financial trouble, for their survival in the job market. Therefore, they are jumping ship as do rats when an actual ship founders at sea.

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Not literally. As I think you well know it's a reference to an age old saying as in " Even the rats abandon a sinking ship". In this context therefore it is referring to the large number of employees leaving all at the same time, when it is speculated that Castleford are in deep if not terminal financial trouble, for their survival in the job market. Therefore, they are jumping ship as do rats when an actual ship founders at sea.

rats leavig a sinking ship is a derogatory term

Would you say this to one of these peoples' faces?

how about grabbing yurelf a sense of proportion and perspective?

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rats leavig a sinking ship is a derogatory term

Would you say this to one of these peoples' faces?

how about grabbing yurelf a sense of proportion and perspective?

you could try the same - it's a common figure of speech

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rats leavig a sinking ship is a derogatory term

Would you say this to one of these peoples' faces?

how about grabbing yurelf a sense of proportion and perspective?

Its a turn of phrase, I dont particularly think its derogatory, nor do I think there was any intention to be derogatory. They are not implying that anyone is a rat, and to suggest so is ludicrous.

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They are not implying that anyone is a rat, and to suggest so is ludicrous.

And Wheldon Road is not a ship either.

B)

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Its a turn of phrase, I dont particularly think its derogatory, nor do I think there was any intention to be derogatory. They are not implying that anyone is a rat, and to suggest so is ludicrous.

The rats are Always first to leave a sinking ship: puts people's loyalty into question

In any case they are by no means the first since in recent months at least three senior members of staff including current chief exec and general manager gave left and joined featherstone rovers

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How ironic.

I suggest you check out your own back catalogue for a bit of double irony

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Can you have double irony? Isn't that a statement of fact? Where's Ed Byrne/Alannis Morrisette when you need them?

It does not look good, at all, but recent history suggests there is a long long way to go before we'll know how Cas' short and medium term future is going to pan out. Good luck to Cas, they're a wonderful club.

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after the bradford, wakefield and salford problems i hope that another club isn't in danger of administration or worse, i hope it's just about a difference of opinion and nothing deeper......

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Can you have double irony? Isn't that a statement of fact? Where's Ed Byrne/Alannis Morrisette when you need them?

It does not look good, at all, but recent history suggests there is a long long way to go before we'll know how Cas' short and medium term future is going to pan out. Good luck to Cas, they're a wonderful club.

I agree, a little less hysteria ,schadenfreude and jumping to conclusions needed IMHO

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a little less jumping to conclusions needed IMHO

Steve Ferres has spoken about leaving Cas in the local rag today.

He really wanted the job as it is his hometown club and thought he'd really enjoy it, but the said that he "did not enjoy it". He claimed the current Cas board was unable to make the changes to ensure the club was competitive in Superleague.

He wanted to see changes to generate more income, but the ground is holding them back and they will be in it for at least two more years. he spoke about ground improvements in relation to "safety issues" which he has spoken about before and it seems the ground far from generating the incomes other clubs grounds can generate, gives rise to too many repair costs from deterioration and recent thefts.

At this point I'd speculate (corrections welcome) that the club lack corporate facilities, lack enough bar and food outlets and don't have enough seating which attracts bigger ticket prices - am I close?

Ferres says that at the moment Cas are not on their own. He believes London and Salford have sunk low too, and Cas have outperformed them. He also believes Cas are "better at generating a crowd" than the "teams who want to come up" but the club doesn't get the income it needs from the crowds and as a result fails to meet the £4M turnover that was a requirement for Superleague (don't know if it still is)

Of course Salford will point to Koukash, London to Hughes, and Fev to Nahaboo. On Fulton Ferres says They cant rely on Jack Fulton putting his hand in his pocket to lend money to the club to keep it going, although Fulton has spoken to the contrary.

It seems to me Ferres and probably the other people running the club are looking at a lack of investment in infrastructure, with what money the club has being used to keep a decent side on the pitch. Cas have always managed to punch above their weight, they have always been able to ride out the loss of players attracted away for better money.

They beat Leeds and held Catalans. I fear however that ensuring the business on the field remains strong enough to keep the faithful coming means there's no money to improve matters off it. The difference between Mr. Fulton and Mr. Ferres seems to be with regard to how much Mr. Fulton can put in. Ferres says they can't rely on him and I think Mr. Fulton says they can.

But the definition of "rely" may be Cas can rely on him to keep them going whilst something turns up, but cannot invest the monies Ferres needed to try to take things forward. Just a considered view?

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rats leavig a sinking ship is a derogatory term

Would you say this to one of these peoples' faces?

how about grabbing yurelf a sense of proportion and perspective?

If there were some sense of loyalty and commitment to Castleford, maybe they would stay and try and right the ship instead of the course of action they are taking in leaving them to their fate without any help they have to offer due to their expertise. Yes, I would say that. Maybe the truth hurts.

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If there were some sense of loyalty and commitment to Castleford, maybe they would stay and try and right the ship instead of the course of action they are taking in leaving them to their fate without any help they have to offer due to their expertise. Yes, I would say that. Maybe the truth hurts.

people have to feed house and clothe their familie: that is where peoples' committment and loyalty is supposed to lie. Not showing committment and loyalty at work is when people don't do their work properly. There is no evidence that this is the case.

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