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Eastleigh By-Election: Who would you vote for?

Who would you vote for in the Eastleigh By-Election?   25 members have voted

  1. 1. Who would you vote for in the Eastleigh By-Election?

    • COLIN BEX - Wessex Regionalists
      0
    • DAVID BISHOP - Elvis Loves Pets Party
      3
    • JIM DUGGAN - Peace Party
      0
    • RAY HALL - Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party
      2
    • HOWLING LAUD HOPE - Monster Raving Loony William Hill Party
      2
    • MARIA HUTCHINGS - Conservative
      2
    • DIANE JAMES - UK Independence Party
      3
    • DR IAIN MACLENNAN - National Health Action Party
      2
    • KEVIN MILBURN - Christian Party "Proclaiming Christ's Lordship"
      0
    • JOHN O'FARRELL - Labour
      5
    • DARREN PROCTER - Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition
      2
    • DANNY STUPPLE - Independent
      0
    • MIKE THORNTON - Liberal Democrats
      3
    • MICHAEL WALTERS - English Democrats
      1

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According to the Beeb, this is the official candidate list for Thursday's Eastleigh By-Election. A right motley bunch by the looks of it. Who would you vote for out of this lot, and who do you think will win it?

COLIN BEX - Wessex Regionalists

DAVID BISHOP - Elvis Loves Pets Party

JIM DUGGAN - Peace Party

RAY HALL - Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party

HOWLING LAUD HOPE - Monster Raving Loony William Hill Party

MARIA HUTCHINGS - Conservative

DIANE JAMES - UK Independence Party

DR IAIN MACLENNAN - National Health Action Party

KEVIN MILBURN - Christian Party "Proclaiming Christ's Lordship"

JOHN O'FARRELL - Labour

DARREN PROCTER - Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition

DANNY STUPPLE - Independent

MIKE THORNTON - Liberal Democrats

MICHAEL WALTERS - English Democrats

Here's more info in the unlikely event you want to know what they all stand for:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21418431

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According to the Beeb, this is the official candidate list for Thursday's Eastleigh By-Election. A right motley bunch by the looks of it. Who would you vote for out of this lot, and who do you think will win it?

I'd vote for John O Farrell. I think Maria Hutchings will win it, although she seems to be doing her very, very best to avoid doing so.

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I would vote for the National Health Action Party.

Too late. You're already going to hell. Nothing you can do about it now.

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Bishop is unbeatable IMHO

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John O'Farrel because some of his books are pretty good. If not the Beer Baccy & Crumpet party sound like a good bunch.

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Howling Laud Hope.

He stood for the Loonies against Galloway in Bradford and stayed (and socialised) in the New Beehive.

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as much as I'd love to vote for the Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party party, and as much as I'm not happy with the party its still the Lib Dems for me (duck!). People keep telling me I should sway to ukip but they are far too illiberal for me (stance on gay marriage and civil liberties).

In an interesting aside though, if UKIP starts splitting the tory vote I wonder if there will be some kicking themselves over rejecting AV! (Probably not but we'll know tomorrow)

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as much as I'd love to vote for the Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party party, and as much as I'm not happy with the party its still the Lib Dems for me (duck!). People keep telling me I should sway to ukip but they are far too illiberal for me (stance on gay marriage and civil liberties).

Lib Dem to UKIP would be quite some journey politically on the face of it.

But dig down a bit and the Lib Dems in practice have real problems with women, ethnic minorities and homosexuality. UKIP are just more honest about it.

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as much as I'd love to vote for the Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party party, and as much as I'm not happy with the party its still the Lib Dems for me (duck!). People keep telling me I should sway to ukip but they are far too illiberal for me (stance on gay marriage and civil liberties).

As for the civil liberties bit, the Lib Dems are part of a government that will shortly bring the Justice and Security Bill to Parliament. The Lib Dem membership is, righty in my view, deeply against it. It will be interesting to see how the MPs vote.

My guess is that they'll make a big fuss about opposing it, then vote for it anyway.

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A single picture tells a thousand words

http://www.dailymail...-need-move.html

You're quite right, it tells you all you need to know about the daily wail.

BTW, the Side Bar of Shame is on pretty good form today. The one thing the self appointed guardian of the nations morals that is the wail does more than anything else to remind us of it's utter hypocrisy.

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as much as I'd love to vote for the <span style="color: #282828"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif">Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party party

Sadly, 'crumpet' in this case is an acronym.

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Lib Dem to UKIP would be quite some journey politically on the face of it.

But dig down a bit and the Lib Dems in practice have real problems with women, ethnic minorities and homosexuality. UKIP are just more honest about it.

On the face of it yes, but I consider my self a fiscal conservative and social liberal. That's mostly why labour don't come in to my equation, at least until they show they've learnt some lessons in that area, and realise that socially 1984 (the Orwell novel) was a warning not a blueprint for society. As a small business owner technically I should vote Conservative, but frankly their snotty pro-London, anti civil liberties attitude repulses me. Leaving me with the Lib Dems. They certainly aren't perfect but I'll at least give them a chance to improve. After that I guess I'll stop voting as I refuse to only vote for the least bad candidate.

The thing about being in a coalition is that you can't have everything you want (the torys haven't had it all their own way either, and if the torys don't win expect an explosion on the far right) and frankly the Lib Dems were naive when they negotiated the coalition agreement, but since they were the smallest party they couldn't expect to get much. Directly after the election most commentators predicted another general election within 12 to 18 month, but the government has managed to provide stable governance of the country so far.

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As for the civil liberties bit, the Lib Dems are part of a government that will shortly bring the Justice and Security Bill to Parliament. The Lib Dem membership is, righty in my view, deeply against it. It will be interesting to see how the MPs vote.

My guess is that they'll make a big fuss about opposing it, then vote for it anyway.

So Steve, if you enter a coalition government do you hold all your lines or make compromises. Of course you've got to make compromises. Sadly though since the media, and society as a whole don't seem to get how they work, ever concession is seen as a defeat. Do you remember the concessions the torys have made?

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The Lib Dem membership is, righty in my view, deeply against it.

Presumably, given how keen you were on every 'security' measure implemented prior to 2010 you are concerned that the new bill doesn't go far enough in giving snoopers power and restricting the right to a fair trial?

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Do you remember the concessions the torys have made?

Having that smarmy no-mark Clegg as Deputy PM for a start.

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Having that smarmy no-mark Clegg as Deputy PM for a start.

Or maybe the basic level of tax going up. Or the referendum on a better voting system. Or the scrapping of the GCSE replacement (Clegg was for that but the party against)

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On the face of it yes, but I consider my self a fiscal conservative and social liberal. That's mostly why labour don't come in to my equation, at least until they show they've learnt some lessons in that area, and realise that socially 1984 (the Orwell novel) was a warning not a blueprint for society. As a small business owner technically I should vote Conservative, but frankly their snotty pro-London, anti civil liberties attitude repulses me. Leaving me with the Lib Dems. They certainly aren't perfect but I'll at least give them a chance to improve. After that I guess I'll stop voting as I refuse to only vote for the least bad candidate.

The thing about being in a coalition is that you can't have everything you want (the torys haven't had it all their own way either, and if the torys don't win expect an explosion on the far right) and frankly the Lib Dems were naive when they negotiated the coalition agreement, but since they were the smallest party they couldn't expect to get much. Directly after the election most commentators predicted another general election within 12 to 18 month, but the government has managed to provide stable governance of the country so far.

The Lib/Dems have got nothing out of the coalition(except red boxes and exectuive limos) whlist nodding through swingeing cuts, virtual privatisation of the health service, and enormous tax cuts for the better off. In 2010 had I lived in (say) Leeds North West i'd probably have voted Lib/Dem - I bet loads of Labour voters did. All it did was give us this extreme, vindictive, unpleasant, nasty Tory government.

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The Lib/Dems have got nothing out of the coalition(except red boxes and exectuive limos) whlist nodding through swingeing cuts, virtual privatisation of the health service, and enormous tax cuts for the better off. In 2010 had I lived in (say) Leeds North West i'd probably have voted Lib/Dem - I bet loads of Labour voters did. All it did was give us this extreme, vindictive, unpleasant, nasty Tory government.

So they've not managed to get everyone's tax free allowance raise?

They've not managed to stop a dreadful new secondary school qualification stopped?

Most impressively they actually got a referendum on a better voting system. It will be difficult for me to forgive labour for not supporting that one.

They've actually tried to make the House of Lords more representative.

As I said they were naive while negotiating te coalition document, and they've made mistakes but then so have every party.

Anyway a confirmed lib dem win in Eastleigh now probably means the party won't be wiped out at the next election.

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By sheer numbers UKIP must be delighted with the result. Not a bad turnout for a by-election but hard to draw too many lessons from it no matter what the Westminster Village Scribblers say.

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