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All that shows is that Wakefield reserves are worse than Leeds reserves. if that's the limit of the club;'s ambition, so be it, but it's depressing.

What a load of rubbish.

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Well said and I suggest there's loads of integrity in what the clubs are doing.

The lowest ebb for me was a few seasons back when Skolars came up on a Monday night and stuck 50 odd up us before a few hundred when our matchday photographer got sent off? Then later didn't Workington put 50 past us before 300?

The gang of four and their fans are insisting we go back to that for the sake of "integrity"

Well, if the talent in London is as great as you think it is and the Skolars get a very possible promotion this year, they might well comne back to SLS stadium next year as Broncos reserves and stuff Leeds reserves for the A team championship trophy

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1. All for the good of Leeds.

2. All decent players on the Hunslet books as DR players will be siphoned off to Leeds whenever Leeds need them and I would bet that if Hunslet uncover a Hardacre on their own, they will put pressure on Hunslet and hoover him up as well.

3. The only ones staying on the South side of the river for any length of time will be the no hopers.

4. Why would Hunslet sign any propsects, they can just rely on Leeds doing it for them. Hubslet, shorn of DR players will be even worse than they were last season.

1. Staying in the Championship is for the good of Hunslet.

2. Of course Leeds will sign the professional players, with Eatons blessing.

3. Hunslet will sign the best of those who don't make pro but are good semi pros

Barry and his team will be active with Leeds encouraging all the local junior sides and scouting the best lads

None of your business anyway, why not concentrate on your own clubs tie up?

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Well said and I suggest there's loads of integrity in what the clubs are doing.

The lowest ebb for me was a few seasons back when Skolars came up on a Monday night and stuck 50 odd up us before a few hundred when our matchday photographer got sent off? Then later didn't Workington put 50 past us before 300?

The gang of four and their fans are insisting we go back to that for the sake of "integrity"

We have had some very dark days over the last few years, talking of integrity, i traveled with 52 fellow supporters 6 hours on a coach to Port Talbot in 2009 to watch my club play a team called Celtic Crusaders, that day Hunslet team were pretty much made up of local amateurs and cast offs from other local clubs, that day we cam up against a team which consisted of several Australians, we got beat by 80 points, we stood there and watched our team get hammered, then set off back on our 6 hour journey to Leeds. Now forgive me but where was the integrity of the sport that day? where was the championship clubs up in arms that day? where was all the concern for the history of Hunslet that day? there wasn't any because it was just another dubbing for poor Hunslet, no one gave two hoots, so forgive me now for not giving two hoots now that my club may once be benefiting from a rule that allows us to at least compete and win rugby league matches.

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And one of your SL loanees scored one of the tries in your loinerlike victory.

Are you not well?

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Well, if the talent in London is as great as you think it is and the Skolars get a very possible promotion this year, they might well comne back to SLS stadium next year as Broncos reserves and stuff Leeds reserves for the A team championship trophy

I hope they do, I want RL to expand successfully in London, I want Leeds as a city to have such a great RL scene it can support two clubs. You need to stop being mean spirited and sort your own club out.

Times change and we can't get back to two tiers in which clubs in the second tier can build and get promotion and stay up and all that stuff.

Those days are gone. We need a strong SL for the game to survive, the Championship has gone this way because needs must.

It can't live on your dreams.

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Says the chairman of the Hull supporters club.

he's worth ten of you.

he actually puts something worthwhileand positive into the game

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Have a look at 'Lazy' Hunslet's community work!

http://www.hunsletha...gory/community/

I'm coming round to this more and more (keighley is a big help).

As you'll know there never really was an official north of the river and south of the river divide between the clubs, Hunslet's directors for many years wanted to be accepted as a "Leeds" club hence they don the University's colours.

There can't be two Leeds clubs in SL so it's hardly revolutionary and lacks integrity for the clubs to come together and run one side in SL and one in CC.

The bottom line seems to be people don't want you doing anything for your club that may affect their club.

We stand 22nd. in the Rugby League, when were we last that high??

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he's worth ten of you.

he actually puts something worthwhileand positive into the game

You know nothing about me. What you might care to consider however is that I live 4,000 miles from the UK and my financial resources are not unlimited.

However I will be spending a small fortune to attend the World Cup games this Autumn. That's as worthwhile and positive as i can manage.

Don't spend all the money from your charm school prioze at once, will you?

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I'm coming round to this more and more (keighley is a big help).

As you'll know there never really was an official north of the river and south of the river divide between the clubs, Hunslet's directors for many years wanted to be accepted as a "Leeds" club hence they don the University's colours.

There can't be two Leeds clubs in SL so it's hardly revolutionary and lacks integrity for the clubs to come together and run one side in SL and one in CC.

The bottom line seems to be people don't want you doing anything for your club that may affect their club.

We stand 22nd. in the Rugby League, when were we last that high??

What was the deal with the chocolate and white strip, adopted in the 60's?

You stand 22nd in the Rugby League, Hardly a worthy achievment though seeing as it has been achieved on the back of leeds players.

I think the last time you were this high or higher was when you won the grand Final and promotion to SL but were denied due to a promise reneging council . Had that happened there would have been rwo SL clubs in Leeds despite your certainties as to the impossibility of it.

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I hope they do, I want RL to expand successfully in London, I want Leeds as a city to have such a great RL scene it can support two clubs. You need to stop being mean spirited and sort your own club out.

Times change and we can't get back to two tiers in which clubs in the second tier can build and get promotion and stay up and all that stuff.

Those days are gone. We need a strong SL for the game to survive, the Championship has gone this way because needs must.

It can't live on your dreams.

Keighley came late to the DR party and have the pick of the best of a small Castleford squad. I think they are doomed to relegation this season. They may as well have preserved their independence and gone down as a non A team.

I think relegation, coupled with the lack of interest in a Castleford A team in a town 30 miles away could well see another bankruptcy and the extinction of the club. No doubt Hetherington and his accolytes will be happy then.

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You know nothing about me. What you might care to consider however is that I live 4,000 miles from the UK and my financial resources are not unlimited.

However I will be spending a small fortune to attend the World Cup games this Autumn. That's as worthwhile and positive as i can manage.

Don't spend all the money from your charm school prioze at once, will you?

And you know nothing about gav, but it didn't stop you making a stupid personal remark about him

I couldn't care less what you spend your money on

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And you know nothing about gav, but it didn't stop you making a stupid personal remark about him

I couldn't care less what you spend your money on

And yet you know nothing about keighley, but feel you have the right to judge his worth?

Get off yer high horse son.

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Fair enough, I'll retain the view the integrity of RL competitions have been ruined for many years by rich men trying to outspend each other and by mercenary players travelling across the world to get at that money.

Oddly enough as Barry Eaton says and Blackpool Hawk will agree, the Hunslet-Leeds set up is about developing young players for the game, many of them from Leeds and who will stock two Leeds clubs.

I don't see any lack of integrity there, Caddick, Williams, Hetherington, Eaton, McDermott and Blackpool Hawk aren't throwing personal money about or dumping good Leeds lads for foreigners.

In fact IMHO there's shedloads of integrity in the arrangement.....

Kylie Leuluai, Richard moore, (Chris Bridge & Paul Wood at Swinton) can't be classed as young players can they?

I have nothing against Hunslet as a club, infact i thought their supporters we're great when they visited Featherstone. I just feel that certain super league teams are taking the mick when chosing what players to make available, surely it would be more beneficial to all concerned to have an age limit if a pathway is the ultimate goal, it's not like Hunslet are going to sign Leuluai at any point is it?

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And you know nothing about gav, but it didn't stop you making a stupid personal remark about him

I couldn't care less what you spend your money on

I didn't make a personal remark about him. i was just alluding to rthe fact that he is a York supporter and they are Hull A team. What is personal about that?

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I didn't make a personal remark about him. i was just alluding to rthe fact that he is a York supporter and they are Hull A team. What is personal about that?

After the hoo-haa I had with York City FC last night, your snide comment barely even registered on my radar pal. Don't worry about it...

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Of the nine partnered Championship clubs, I'd be really interested to know whether the other seven are leaning more towards the the recent proposals of the independent clubs or those of Hunslet and Swinton. Maybe the fans could give their views.

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Of the nine partnered Championship clubs, I'd be really interested to know whether the other seven are leaning more towards the the recent proposals of the independent clubs or those of Hunslet and Swinton. Maybe the fans could give their views.

Would help if the proposals were emailed to us to look at, we're still waiting!

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Would help if the proposals were emailed to us to look at, we're still waiting!

Well that's not good is it? I'm surprised. Presumably you'll have seen the details though? Enough for discussion on here if not in the board room?

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As a Workington fan linked with Widnes, I have said all along that I am not in favour of this dual registered system the way it is being operated this season and I stand by that view. My club has played the system as it was intended and only used young SL players (1 has played 5 games, 1 played 2 and 1 played 1) all 23 or under with little or no SL experience. In our very first match with only the youngest of these 3 players in our team we were up against Swinton who 2 days before the match announced that 6 players that they had dual registered from Warrington were now fully signed Swinton players and they brought in 2 more experienced players (Wood, McCarthy plus Laithwaite) to play against us plus the 6 other players. The rules allow any number of players from the SL club to be dual registered so no rules were broken as long as no more than 5 players were used.

The RFL has already said that they will continue to monitor the system and review it at the end of the season and I think that irrespective of how clubs feel that the system isn't working or affects the integrity of the competition, to alter it now would be a disadvantage to some clubs who have faced different opposition to that which other clubs could face later in the season.

My view of the memorandum of association is that it should have been discussed by ALL the Championship clubs and give every club the chance to put forward ways of making it stronger or better. I, personally, liked last years system providing some guarantees were given that a dual registered player was able to stay at the Championship club on a monthly basis rather than be at the call of the SL to recall them as and when they saw fit. I also think that the age should be Under 25 as long as all the other criteria fit that particular player (i.e. no or little SL experience) but the statement put out by the four clubs only asks clubs to agree and sign the document. So on that basis I would not like to see my club sign. I would rather they call a meeting of ALL Championship clubs and together thrash out a more workable system for next season.

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And yet you know nothing about keighley, but feel you have the right to judge his worth?

Get off yer high horse son.

Which Was exactly the point

Keighley made a personal remark about gav on the basis of knowing knack all about him

As for the son bit

I doubt

Whether you've ever been sexually active enough to reproduce

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You know nothing about me. What you might care to consider however is that I live 4,000 miles from the UK and my financial resources are not unlimited.

However I will be spending a small fortune to attend the World Cup games this Autumn. That's as worthwhile and positive as i can manage.

Don't spend all the money from your charm school prioze at once, will you?

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Lets just stick to the thread eh, instead of just jumping on Keighley everytime he posts something you don't like. Its not difficult to spot the trend.

There's decent debate going on here..........from both sides.

I've posted my views on many posts on this subject. I'm against DR for established SL players, or for someone the get match fitness, its for develop of young players who need the experience. I'm against whole sides being filled with DR players and if we were offered the use of such as Kevin Brown and Rhys Hanbury for a crucial game I'd hope my club turns it down. As you'd guess my club is the same as Keith T's and I'm ok with the way they have utiliised DR so far. One player has played in all 5 games and he's injury cover for our no1 winger. The others have been subs.

I'd like the RFL to review the DR situation now, collate the views of all clubs in tiers 2 and 3, as there are subjects that need clarifying - Challenge Cup eligibility, Play-off eligibility, what is being proposed for next season and what those players such as Leuluai and their eligibility situation re Visa's/DR for the remainder of the season. 5 rounds have been played and a review can be done before DR impacts too much on the season.

If the Championship clubs are going to petition the RFL then I think that should be done now and done quickly, before momentum is lost. But I'd like the petition to be based on a majority of clubs and not just 4/5 dissenters, so that needs organising.

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