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how can we help rl in wales ?

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Its a big year for rugby league in wales with the world cup , But having north wales and south wales in the new league one is hardly going to attratch the fans especially after the super league era. So how can we help promote the game more in wales. I would say if we are to have an international calendar than to me wales is more important than london .Heres afew ideas of how we might help promote the game more in wales.

1. Lets take the challenge cup semi finals to wales the cardiff city stadium and the liberty stadium would both be good venues as both are top class stadia.

2. Could widnes and warrington take a home game each on the road to wrexham maybe ?

3. maybe take a london broncos game to south wales

4. could wales national team be given a game against a exiles team (made up of championship players perhaps.A two match serries would be good one match in the north and one in the south.

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All good ideas.

Also, getting Scorpions and Crusaders games on S4C through the summer.

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1. Lets take the challenge cup semi finals to wales the cardiff city stadium and the liberty stadium would both be good venues as both are top class stadia.

2. Could widnes and warrington take a home game each on the road to wrexham maybe ?

3. maybe take a london broncos game to south wales

4. could wales national team be given a game against a exiles team (made up of championship players perhaps.A two match serries would be good one match in the north and one in the south.

I like the sound of idea's 1 and 4. Both would make good excuses for a weekend away. Idea 1 would cancel out idea's 2 and 3 though.

Also, getting Scorpions and Crusaders games on S4C through the summer.

That would be awesome and would really help these two clubs establish their own identities.

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the S4C thing would be great.

I'd disagree Wales is more important than London though but then again I'm biased.

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the S4C thing would be great.

I'd disagree Wales is more important than London though but then again I'm biased.

s4c would be good are the rfl pushing it .

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Wales vs Exiles would be an enormous boost to Wales RL.

S4C would also be awesome for the Scorpions and Crusaders.

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How can we help Rugby league in Wales?

Support It, Most of the Rugby League Community have been so negative about it in the past, yeah theres been some negative stories but still theres alot of people doing good work here. Get Behind it.

Previosuly complaining about the Crusaders Crowds in Bridgend is one Example, compare it now to the Rugby Union Regions in the heartlands of the south and they dont look half bad.

Come on Wales!!

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Would it, why?

s4c is a satalite channel which national would benifit the whole of national league teams as well . Any media coverage is a plus. Players of the two teams could become house hold names if on tv every week making kids wanna play the game .

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I agree any media coverage is a plus but people need to be aware that games are taking place if they are going to watch them.

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Having a promotion system to SL, which allows 2up every year. It is the only way we'll have any chance of seeing a Welsh SL team again. The current system means it will take forever.

Then perhaps the RFL should let them have special dispensation/funding to sign top Welsh RU players

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s4c is a satalite channel which national would benifit the whole of national league teams as well . Any media coverage is a plus. Players of the two teams could become house hold names if on tv every week making kids wanna play the game .

S4C can be found on satellite but it is a terrestrial channel in Wales.

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Having a promotion system to SL, which allows 2up every year. It is the only way we'll have any chance of seeing a Welsh SL team again. The current system means it will take forever.

Then perhaps the RFL should let them have special dispensation/funding to sign top Welsh RU players

First para - I don't think automatic p&r would make any difference. If a Welsh club was able to get into a situation where it could thrive in the Championship - very unlikely without some sort of additional funding to counteract the innate advantages heartland clubs appear to have - then the Super League would elevate them before you could say "Welsh Rarebit".

With the money sloshing around in Union, top Union players are not going to be interested.

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Another idea could be to set up a wales members scheme my non league club sheffield have a great scheme . For a joining fee say of £25 you get yr name on members board a certificate of membership four free tickets to any game plus a member badge. Could wales set up something similar to run with both clubs. Sheff fc had lots of celebs on board surely wales could do something similar .

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Then perhaps the RFL should let them have special dispensation/funding to sign top Welsh RU players

The top Welsh RU players are going to be earning big bucks (some perhaps as much as 180-200K) so how could we afford them? Personally dont want them either as they wouldnt be guaranteed to be a success at RL.

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First para - I don't think automatic p&r would make any difference. If a Welsh club was able to get into a situation where it could thrive in the Championship - very unlikely without some sort of additional funding to counteract the innate advantages heartland clubs appear to have - then the Super League would elevate them before you could say "Welsh Rarebit".

With the money sloshing around in Union, top Union players are not going to be interested.

I think the interest generated in an on-the-field promotion race for SL could really pull crowds in. This just will not happen under our current system because the games dont really mean anything. It was a shame promotion to SL was ditched when it was because Celtic Crusaders were on a roll after being promoted to NL1 and could have gone up automatically as righful champs (they may have beaten Salford in the final if it hadnt been a dead rubber).

We NEED a rethink on promotion to SL if there is to be any hope of non heartland teams getting into SL and building up a groundswell of fans

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The top Welsh RU players are going to be earning big bucks (some perhaps as much as 180-200K) so how could we afford them? Personally dont want them either as they wouldnt be guaranteed to be a success at RL.

Bums on seats.

Each SL club should have signed one good Welsh RU player 1-2 years ago in advance of the world cup. Not necessarily all internationals, but good players

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The top Welsh RU players are going to be earning big bucks (some perhaps as much as 180-200K) so how could we afford them? Personally dont want them either as they wouldnt be guaranteed to be a success at RL.

I think before this happens Oldham should be given funding to sign ANY Rugby League player ........

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Bums on seats.

Each SL club should have signed one good Welsh RU player 1-2 years ago in advance of the world cup. Not necessarily all internationals, but good players

Opinion makes the world go round but imho we dont need them as it would turn the fickle RU crowd dislike us even more than some of them do already....

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Would it, why?

Erm, it's the Welsh equivalent of channel four (I believe it occupies the number 4 slot on the freeview EPG in Wales).

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All good ideas.

Also, getting Scorpions and Crusaders games on S4C through the summer.

Crusaders' home games were on S4C until some idiot ruined it by pushing Crusaders into SL. They haven't shown any interest since.

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Erm, it's the Welsh equivalent of channel four (I believe it occupies the number 4 slot on the freeview EPG in Wales).

We get S4C with our Virgin TV. (We also get the Gaelic Scots channel too) Jonathan Davies has a programme on S4C so perhaps he'd be the man to organise any coverage of Welsh RL.

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We NEED a rethink on promotion to SL if there is to be any hope of non heartland teams getting into SL and building up a groundswell of fans

Essentially the Crusaders took that route. They won promotion from CC1 to CC.

Then they were neck and neck with Salford in the Championship and both were promoted into Superleague.

Crowds grew on that success.

But the success was money driven and the money ran out and Crusaders collapsed.

So the promotion thing happened for Cru, the crowd growth happened for Cru but it was all money driven.

Without money nobody can rise through the leagues to Superleague status and survive and compete.

We have two welsh clubs in the league who can be promoted and can get to the top of CC and I would guess be welcome with open arms for promotion to SL by license if they had the money.

Had Dr. Koukash taken over Scorpions, the RFL would be preparing a place for them now.

P & R is a red herring.

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We need to build the two welsh clubs slowly I do think that teams that come in to rugby league strive for the top to quickly.The way forward is to get both established in the championship and slowly build fan base . All the teams we fast track seem to go look at paris and gateshead in super league. Sheffields approach when formed in 84 was the right way slow improvements year on year .

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S4C show Welsh League football on a saturday afternoon, if scorpions / crusaders games could be moved to alternate saturdays the games could be shown then. No union or football over summer so gnoll and racecourse should be free for saturday games.

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