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Dewsbury Rams 6 Leigh Centurions 36 - discuss the match here

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Balanced review BSJ? Here it is then.

I've supported Dewsbury RLFC for approximately 55 years now, and today was the first time in all those years that I've walked out before the final whistle - well before I might add. Not only that, but I won't be coming back, a decision I should have made after last years abysmal display at Cougar Park.

I've supported the side home and away - Crown Flatt, Barley Mow, Parkside, Odsal, Headingly, Fartown et al... even Cumbria and South Wales... but no more. I've just watched my last game; well 2/3rds of it anyway. I'll miss it, though I'll miss the many friends Sheila and I have made far more. It's just not the game I remember with such affection, the RFL have seen to that.

So fare thee well, and best wishes to you all.

Ossy

Thats a shame Ossy, I hope you reconsider and support the rams, and I'm a Batley fan.

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Grumpy old Ram... I gave the touch judge the benefit of my opinions, though I never, never use foul or abusive language. I'm sorry if it spoiled it a bit for you (if it was me, I stand near the front so don't think I was behind anyone) I do get a bit excited at times. Again sorry if it was me.

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Grumpy old Ram... I gave the touch judge the benefit of my opinions, though I never, never use foul or abusive language. I'm sorry if it spoiled it a bit for you (if it was me, I stand near the front so don't think I was behind anyone) I do get a bit excited at times. Again sorry if it was me.

The person concerned had his wife and kids with him and was sat right at the back. I'm no saint and have effed and jeffed with the best in male company, and undoubtedly mumbled expletives out of earshot at games, but not at the top of my voice in front of kids and young girls ( some of them leigh fans with their parents). What's worse is that the bunch of jobsworths laughingly described as stewards couldn't possibly have failed to hear him. I doubt it would have been you F5, and ordinarily I wouldn't bother commenting - it's happened before - but I just got fed up on a miserable day and left him to it on sunday. Not being precious or anything.

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With a cooler head, our key players probably have only about 30 first team games between them, so not surprising we lack composure etc..

Gallagher left the game with what might have been a broken nose. Aizue was not on the field long, which left us with just Spicer and Nash as experienced players. Yes Pryce was on the field but not much more than that. Why he didn't do the field kicking is beyond me, the kicks he put in against Featherstone were the biggest ever seen at our ground. But guess it is up to GM to get him to shape up or leave. I thought he would be just here for a few games, get match fit and then go off to a lower end SL team, but it looks like he can't even be bothered to do that. Baffling.

When we get Craven, Hepworth, Jones and Buchanan back, we'll be in a better state. Really need to beat Keighley, as doubt we will get even a bonus point against Batley and Halifax.

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Dont say that Wakefield Ram, have booked the night off work to go and see this match, it was just unfortunate that both our half backs had an off day, our forwards tried hard but got nowhere against a " fast" Leigh defence ( they were only fast thanks to the abysmal referee), hoping the guys learn from this and improve remember a young team still learning and have every faith in them.

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doubt we will get even a bonus point against Batley and Halifax.

I like your posativity WR :)

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It's two experienced teams of seasoned pros against a team of mostly inexperienced young players as the likes of Craven etc.. wont be back. Barrow managed to lose at home to Whitehaven which puts our loss there in even worse light.

Blind optimism is no substitute, we have struggled past some very ordinary teams in the bottom half of the table, lost to Fev and been thrashed by Barrow and Leigh, conceded 72 points and scored 6 in the last 120 minutes. I'm guessing confidence will be low and we have key experienced players missing and a coach new to being Head Coach. If you want to choose to be positive, that's fine, but when I look at it in the cold light of day, it's not looking very good at the moment. Hence doubt we will get a bonus point. Think Thursday might well be a heavy beating and a Batley win by 20ish points.

Still think we could make 7th or 8th in the playoffs, but this Sunday will be a good indicator of whether we will be chasing play offs or trying to avoid relegation.

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I don't believe that relegation will be a serious issue this year but that we might achieve the dizzy heights of safety but no play-offs.

Maybe we'll be better on drier grounds when the natural pace in the team gets a chance to show.

B)

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You need to get a team of local lads like we have at Leigh they play for peanuts and don't get hacked off by losing a shirt to some sl wannabe at a moments notice, pryce is on more than all our lads combined I don't know how you afford it

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You need to get a team of local lads like we have at Leigh they play for peanuts and don't get hacked off by losing a shirt to some sl wannabe at a moments notice, pryce is on more than all our lads combined I don't know how you afford it

Any more drivel where that one came from? Please tell us how much Pryce is on and confirm that Penky switched from 'Fax to you for peanuts; Beswick may look a bit symian but I guess that he also plays for money.

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; Beswick may look a bit symian but I guess that he also plays for money.

Class!!!! :D

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I have never felt so frustrated at a game than i did on Sunday and this was for many reasons.

We seemed to start well, as usual, and then dropped off. The period of drop outs we gave to Leigh was always going to end with a score. We cannot afford to give periods of possession to teams that are the size of Leigh, as we will never keep them out on the line. it was always going to be a hard afternoon with the size of Leigh as a team.

Leigh did seem to get away with a lot. They did move up much quicker than us at the play of the ball, but they were going far too early and were often offside. On this subject, we need to move up off our line and get into the faces of the attacking team. We haven't done this for years. Leigh were also messing around in nearly every tackle and the referee let them get away with it from the start. This was the start of him losing the game and this led to the fights towards the end of the match. He really lost it and should have imposed himself on the game in a more positive way, rather than giving endless penalties that stopped the flow of the play.

On the subject of penalties though, we as a team give far many legitimate penalties away and this has got to be stopped. The lack of experience does show and this is starting to worry me.

The kicking in play is very disappointing also. We should be able to kick teams to death on our pitch. It is the smallest in all leagues and we never use this to our advantage. Kicking on the last tackle, or earlier, often results in a kick down the throat of the full back. Batley know how to use the slope of their pitch to their advantage, so come on, lets get this kicking game sorted out on our postage stamp of a pitch. Kicking to touch also annoys me. We gain little ground kicking to touch when we could be kicking into the corners. It is easy on a pitch of our dimensions!!

Karl Pryce shouldn't be on the pitch if he continues to play as he is. He doesn't come inside looking for the ball and when attacking on the line he isn't there as a runner. He is massive and he should be using his size. I doubt we will ever see this.

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Showing my lack of education but I have no idea what the word you use to describe Beswick means any advice please. I do know what simian means.

Its no compliment, that's for sure. Let's just say it means you look a little bit closer to your ancestors than you might care to be.

By the way, I think that you're kidding us about your ignorance. According to the Cambridge dictionary your spelling is right and BSJ spelt it wrongly.

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It is easy on a pitch of our dimensions!!

Does anyone know what our pitch dimensions actually are?

I hear regularly that our pitch is small, but what size is it and what size is the pitch over the valley or at Fev?

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31 to 7 penalty count.Thats a penalty conceeded nearly every 2 mins,In one of the recent s/l matches.The ref called the captains and warned them that due to the high count.He would sin bin the next player that gave away a penalty.Did he warn our capt did he *ollocks.One thing i never complaining about his teams being offside both teams being guilty of it.Same on Sunday if we were guilty so Leigh players were equally guilty.The ref watched one team and one team only.Cant blame the lads for the performance the cheat in the middle stopped us from playing.Its alrite we also know theres another team in the H.W.he hates.

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Does anyone know what our pitch dimensions actually are?

I hear regularly that our pitch is small, but what size is it and what size is the pitch over the valley or at Fev?

This was posted a couple of years ago - I think the dimensions are in metres but not 100% sure.

Dewsbury 92 x 62

Batley 98 x 65

Fev 88 x 70

York 90 x 60

Hunslet 94 x 64

Sheffield 88 x 66

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This was posted a couple of years ago - I think the dimensions are in metres but not 100% sure.

Dewsbury 92 x 62

Batley 98 x 65

Fev 88 x 70

York 90 x 60

Hunslet 94 x 64

Sheffield 88 x 66

So why all the fuss about our pitch being small?

Fev is shorter and York is narrower, or is it me?

Don't answer that I know the response!! :rolleyes:

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31 to 7 penalty count.Thats a penalty conceeded nearly every 2 mins,In one of the recent s/l matches.The ref called the captains and warned them that due to the high count.He would sin bin the next player that gave away a penalty.Did he warn our capt did he *ollocks.One thing i never complaining about his teams being offside both teams being guilty of it.Same on Sunday if we were guilty so Leigh players were equally guilty.The ref watched one team and one team only.Cant blame the lads for the performance the cheat in the middle stopped us from playing.Its alrite we also know theres another team in the H.W.he hates.

The ref from Sunday can leave his whistle for his next game,he's touch judge for wakefield - Leeds game on Friday,hope he stays there !!

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Whilst we certainly can't blame the ref for our downfall on Sunday but I honestly believe his whistle blowing antics spoilt any chance of us putting any type game together.

Why were we penalised in the second half when clearly the Leigh man on the floor and off side was snatching at the the acting half's feet? (one of many bizarre decisions)

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Its no compliment, that's for sure. Let's just say it means you look a little bit closer to your ancestors than you might care to be.

By the way, I think that you're kidding us about your ignorance. According to the Cambridge dictionary your spelling is right and BSJ spelt it wrongly.

No he is not kiding you - grucker isn't the sharpest knife in the box, but I assume he can use spell check :lol: . On the other hand, maybe BSJ wasn't likening Beswick to one of the higher primates but to a native of symi - a small island of inbreds just off Rhodes. :O

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31 to 7 penalty count.Thats a penalty conceeded nearly every 2 mins,In one of the recent s/l matches.The ref called the captains and warned them that due to the high count.He would sin bin the next player that gave away a penalty.Did he warn our capt did he *ollocks.One thing i never complaining about his teams being offside both teams being guilty of it.Same on Sunday if we were guilty so Leigh players were equally guilty.The ref watched one team and one team only.Cant blame the lads for the performance the cheat in the middle stopped us from playing.Its alrite we also know theres another team in the H.W.he hates.

Sorry equalizer, but refs dont cheat - most of them are SL ref wannabes, and they are assessed, so cheats would soon be picked out. They can be incompetent though, and unfortunately some are, BUT the ref on sunday didn't wave the traffic through like a Turin policeman, he didn't fall off tackles, kick without purpose or direction, or demonstrate a lack of ideas. The penalty count in itself is a bit of a giveaway - most sides might have twigged that the ref had their card marked after the first dozen - we apparently didn't. So actually we can blame the lads, but they will hopefully learn by the experience and give a much improved performance next week.

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31 to 7 penalty count.Thats a penalty conceeded nearly every 2 mins,In one of the recent s/l matches.The ref called the captains and warned them that due to the high count.He would sin bin the next player that gave away a penalty.Did he warn our capt did he *ollocks.One thing i never complaining about his teams being offside both teams being guilty of it.Same on Sunday if we were guilty so Leigh players were equally guilty.The ref watched one team and one team only.Cant blame the lads for the performance the cheat in the middle stopped us from playing.Its alrite we also know theres another team in the H.W.he hates.

According to league express penalty count was 12-18 !!!!!!

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Any more drivel where that one came from? Please tell us how much Pryce is on and confirm that Penky switched from 'Fax to you for peanuts; Beswick may look a bit symian but I guess that he also plays for money.

Penky costs peanuts his dad employs him and sponsors the club. You too could run an expensive FT squad like us if you spent better

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