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I drove down lumber lane on my way home and saw one of our big name signings from previous seasons mr holroyd going the other way.

A man who claimed a good wage every week but managed to get a five match ban for his behaviour and could barely be bothered to bend his back most others

Would we prefer a team of sad tired signings stealing a living like him or the young lads we saw on Sunday killing themselves for the Lions

I really struggle to see what difference it makes as to whether we sign youngsters from Warrington for a year or have a team full of holroyds here for the same length of time

I don't know what difference it makes as I say. ..but I know which I prefer. ..and its not mr h.

Now I'm disappointed that its not Watson for coach but I really do guess that chambers has been involved with the team prior to Sunday's performance.

I also strongly suspect that he wont be a duck egg

Im prepared to give him a chance

Who cares what people think?

I've listened to moaners and abuse in my face for donkey's years.

You know what I just laugh back

Good luck to our new coach.

Well said!

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Im not going to lie. I was very disappointed when I heard that Chambers had been made coach.

I wanted a coach who could bring something to the team that we dont have already, and personally I think we have failed to achieve that. Watto and Marlon have done a great job with the lads, and if the decision was made on a financial basis I think theres no doubt it should have been those two lads who got the job.

Having said that, im willing to give Chambers a chance. Theres no way I can make a proper judgment on him before iv seen what he can do with the side. However, I think just about everyone will by hypercritical from the start, and if theres any signs that the team spirit and effort the lads have built up under Watto is disappearing, then I think everyone will be calling for his head, even after a game or two. It will also be interesting to see the percentage of Warrington lads in our side from now on.

I just hope he knows what hes got himself in for!!!

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There is one big parallel with the appointment of Stevie Mac. He has become a teacher and is now wanting a part-time coaching appointment. Experienced assistant coach at Warrington, coach of England A and Cumbria, an impressive cv for a new coach at Championship level. We may have just landed a top man due to his personal circumstances, Warrington link aside. Time to cheer up.

I agree, give him a chance.

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Gary Chambers was a very hard and capable player, and quite likely a capable coach too.

The concerns many people are expressing do not centre on his abilities par ce - the thing that matters is the conditions of the appointment.

i.e. Does he have an unfettered remit to develop Swinton Lions, or is he also expected to give focus to development of young Warrington players and prioritise surplus/injured Warrington first teamers getting game time to aid their match fitness? If its the latter, this appointment confirms John and Paul Kidd's vision for the future of Swinton Lions is that of a feeder club.

In truth its already happening. Ominous, for example, that Kevin Penny appears to have been dropped in favour of a Warrington player against Doncaster. Wouldn't be the greatest surprise if he's the next man out of the exit door.

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There is one big parallel with the appointment of Stevie Mac. He has become a teacher and is now wanting a part-time coaching appointment. Experienced assistant coach at Warrington, coach of England A and Cumbria, an impressive cv for a new coach at Championship level. We may have just landed a top man due to his personal circumstances, Warrington link aside. Time to cheer up.

Totally agree. Obviously he'll be promoting Swinton Lions in the school where he is teaching and others nearby with perhaps the opportunity to get Martin Moana and some players (or coaches from Folly) in the local schools from time to time.

Let's give this experienced coach a chance and get behind him and the lads that pull on a Swinton shirt and have shown a lot of commitment over the last few weeks under the stewardship of Watto and Marlon.

Hopefully the Club have communicated in depth with Watto and Marlon regarding the appointment and why Watto hasn't got it and they can work well together to the benefit of the Lions.

I would definitely expect an increase in the number of Warrington youth players in the short-term as Chambers will obviously know these players and their capabilities better than anyone.....in any line of work where you have the power to hire and fire the tendency is, where they are required, to bring in the good people you know as it's a damn sight easier than looking elsewhere when you've already got enough on your plate learning a new role etc.

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Gary Chambers was a very hard and capable player, and quite likely a capable coach too.

The concerns many people are expressing do not centre on his abilities par ce - the thing that matters is the conditions of the appointment.

i.e. Does he have an unfettered remit to develop Swinton Lions, or is he also expected to give focus to development of young Warrington players and prioritise surplus/injured Warrington first teamers getting game time to aid their match fitness? If its the latter, this appointment confirms John and Paul Kidd's vision for the future of Swinton Lions is that of a feeder club.

In truth its already happening. Ominous, for example, that Kevin Penny appears to have been dropped in favour of a Warrington player against Doncaster. Wouldn't be the greatest surprise if he's the next man out of the exit door.

So you know the reason Kev Penny was dropped do you.? Have you spoken to Kevin or indeed Watto.? I very much doubt you have.

Now if as you assume he was dropped to accommodate a Warrington lad then doesn't that smack of Watto being a yes man, since you felt he should have been given the full time post.

As it us I am aware why Kev Penny didn't play but it isn't for discussion on here, it's between his coach and himself.

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So you know the reason Kev Penny was dropped do you.? Have you spoken to Kevin or indeed Watto.? I very much doubt you have.

Now if as you assume he was dropped to accommodate a Warrington lad then doesn't that smack of Watto being a yes man, since you felt he should have been given the full time post.

As it us I am aware why Kev Penny didn't play but it isn't for discussion on here, it's between his coach and himself.

You've clearly been having too many late nights, Alan.

I have never stated that I wanted Ian Watson to be given the post as Swinton Lions coach, which by the way is a part-time one and not full-time.

What I said was:

The nature of the appointment will also tell us a lot about what sort of future John and Paul Kidd want for the club.

John and Paul are firmly at a crossroads. They can either reflect that mistakes have been made in the manner of the partnership with Warrington and try to pull back from those errors of judgement, or just keep digging a bigger hole.

and

While I can understand people pointing towards Ian Watson, I think a bigger scale of change is needed to get the team re-foccused and re-energised.

There was no pandering for Ian Watson to be given the job there, as far as I can see.

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Ps par ce?

Eh?

I thought you studied latin!?

Keith once speculated on here that I had studied latin, but he was incorrect and this was pointed out at the time.

It wasn't even an option at St Mary's RC High School, Astley.

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Good luck Mr Chambers, not my first choice but unlike some of the detractors on who obviously were present at the interviews and also are able to see into the future regarding our 'demise' I am willing to give you a fair crack at it. Hopefully you can show the gob almighty know it alls exactly what they do know. Naff all.

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Chambers was in the stands on Sunday in the comfy seats, probably has been monitoring the team for a while on a match day. I would love to see the boo boys comments on Sunday if we turn over Batley.

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Keith once speculated on here that I had studied latin, but he was incorrect and this was pointed out at the time.

It wasn't even an option at St Mary's RC High School, Astley.

Well dont Wikipedia that or you might get embarrassed.

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Well, well, well, seems that the "little bird" was right after all, it is Gary Chambers.

On the face of it, it may be, as many fans fear, an iffy appointment regarding the integrity of the club.

BUT, for Heaven's sake, let's at least give him the opportunity to show us what he can or cannot do.

And don't forget, the Watto/Marlon dynamic duo is still there to lend their proven qualities to the team.

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Totally agree. Obviously he'll be promoting Swinton Lions in the school where he is teaching and others nearby with perhaps the opportunity to get Martin Moana and some players (or coaches from Folly) in the local schools from time to time.

Good spot, Paul. I think he teaches at Harrop Fold in Walkden, so as near to traditional Lions territory as you can get without an M27 postcode. I don't think he's a bad appointment at all. Most Championship clubs would be happy with it, but I can see why people have concerns over the process and the Wires link up.

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Good spot, Paul. I think he teaches at Harrop Fold in Walkden, so as near to traditional Lions territory as you can get without an M27 postcode. I don't think he's a bad appointment at all. Most Championship clubs would be happy with it, but I can see why people have concerns over the process and the Wires link up.

After speaking with Watto, i believe Gary is in actual fact a deputy head at Harrop Fold.

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Chambers was in the stands on Sunday in the comfy seats, probably has been monitoring the team for a while on a match day. I would love to see the boo boys comments on Sunday if we turn over Batley.

Don't go on Sunday Tim you will be the only one at Batley if you do !!!

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may as well move into Wilderspool now.......drop your fans for more local ones and rename......Warrington Wizards ?? havent they folded or merged with someone ??

SWARRINGTON

RIP SWINTON LIONS

God I bet that took you ages and ages to come up with that.

Tell me did you play around with a few words at first before the final product because I certainly am impressed by the originality of your post.

Well done you your special.

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Chambers was in the stands on Sunday in the comfy seats, probably has been monitoring the team for a while on a match day. I would love to see the boo boys comments on Sunday if we turn over Batley.

I would like to see the 'boo boys' tell him to his face!

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may as well move into Wilderspool now.......drop your fans for more local ones and rename......Warrington Wizards ?? havent they folded or merged with someone ??

SWARRINGTON

RIP SWINTON LIONS

brilliant. and you lot wonder why people hate ya.

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Good appointment I believe, ignore the ne'er do wells. He knows how to treat young players and personally knows a number of them. I am sure Watto will work well with him to his own advantage in terms of knowledge and technique and vice versa.

As with all coaches he will ultimately be judged on results. Leave it there and let's get behind the team.

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Probably boring comment for some people but ....Good Luck Gary, your our coach now and surely all Swinton supporters will want you to be successful

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Probably boring comment for some people but ....Good Luck Gary, your our coach now and surely all Swinton supporters will want you to be successful

Best comment of the week.

You could have of course flowered it up into a twenty paragraph essay/biography......

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sorry people I am not feeling the same excitment as every one else, don't get me wrong I will give him a chance. For me bad appointment and shows our intentions as a club.

There is one question I want to ask, why was Gary Chambers picked as coach? John said there has been loads of interest in the position, so why have we appointed a coach with no experience at this level?

I really hope John was not told who his next coach was going to be. I know I am presuming but something does not add up..

I will be there saturday cheering the lads on the pitch and for 80 mins putting the political shambles aside

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