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Shaun Edwards

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Read an article in which he said the lions snub nearly made him quit rugby union and head down under to the NRL, where he had received lots of offers. I would love to see Edwards back in league and preferably as coach of England, but I can't see it myself as with andy farrell the pull of union on the world stage is to great both financial and personal honours.

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I'm not sure why Edwards is qualified to coach England RL. Has he even coached RL before?

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I'm not sure why Edwards is qualified to coach England RL. Has he even coached RL before?

Shaun edwards knows rugby league inside out and is obviously very well thought of, hence the numerous NRL offers. Also Judging The recent tenure of Steve McNamara, neither is he.

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It's actually something that really annoys me in my normal business life. People think that somebody who is a good 'do-er' will transfer to being the best manager. Often it is miles out.

Just because somebody is good at throwing a rugby ball, or kicking it accurately, is not the same thing as them being a good manager.

It is very rare that we see absolutely brilliant players in any sport go on to become brilliant managers.

Most of the best managers had modest playing success at best in their sport.

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Shaun edwards knows rugby league inside out and is obviously very well thought of, hence the numerous NRL offers. Also Judging The recent tenure of Steve McNamara, neither is he.

I'd be stunned if the 'numerous NRL offers' line was true.

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It's actually something that really annoys me in my normal business life. People think that somebody who is a good 'do-er' will transfer to being the best manager. Often it is miles out.

Just because somebody is good at throwing a rugby ball, or kicking it accurately, is not the same thing as them being a good manager.

It is very rare that we see absolutely brilliant players in any sport go on to become brilliant managers.

Most of the best managers had modest playing success at best in their sport.

Absolutely. It is often the fact that their skills didn't come easy which made them understand how they do what they do, unlike the naturally-gifted players, because it's so instinctive and simple to them. How many of England's 1966 Word Cup winning footballers made it in management? Workhorse Jack Charlton and Alan Ball are the only two I can think of.

Edwards was always going to be good at the coaching side, due to his work ethic, furious intensity and concentration on the job in hand.

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the NRL, where he had received lots of offers.

Yeah, ok Shaun, whatever you say.

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im sure he did receive plenty of offers, though i doubt any were for Head coaches roles.. and to be honest theres absolutely no chance of an NRL club giving a current British RL coach a head coaches position, let alone a RU coach, albeit one with a good RL pedigree.

The only coaching role that would be offered to any Brit over there would be as an assistant first.

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I'd be stunned if the 'numerous NRL offers' line was true.

0 is a number...

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In the Guardian article from which this thread has arisen, Edwards speaks only of the possibility of "re-learning" his (rugby league) "trade" as an assistant coach in the ARL... nowhere does it suggest that he had received any concrete offers at all.

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I'm not sure why Edwards is qualified to coach England RL. Has he even coached RL before?

That doesn't mean he wouldn't be good at it though.

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That doesn't mean he wouldn't be good at it though.

Absolutely, but for fans (who won't have necessarily seen his working skills) to want him as National manager is strange. This isn't just this thread, it comes up time and time again.

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I'd be stunned if the 'numerous NRL offers' line was true.

Sounds like a classic agent's line to me..

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Absolutely, but for fans (who won't have necessarily seen his working skills) to want him as National manager is strange. This isn't just this thread, it comes up time and time again.

I agree and find it a bit strange, too.

But I also don't think it takes a massive leap of faith to see him as a top rugby coach.

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I agree and find it a bit strange, too.

But I also don't think it takes a massive leap of faith to see him as a top rugby coach.

I actually think it is for a fan who will actually know very little of what he is really like in his work career.

You could make an assumption that he would be a success based on his management in RU, but tactically we have no idea whether he would be a success in a game which has changed a fair bit since he was last involved.

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It's actually something that really annoys me in my normal business life. People think that somebody who is a good 'do-er' will transfer to being the best manager. Often it is miles out.

Just because somebody is good at throwing a rugby ball, or kicking it accurately, is not the same thing as them being a good manager.

It is very rare that we see absolutely brilliant players in any sport go on to become brilliant managers.

Most of the best managers had modest playing success at best in their sport.

I am an adequate "do er" but a terrible manager. I have had every management post I have ever been given quietly taken off me in short order.

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He invented the blitz defense with wales! A different way of saying moving up quickly in a Line instead of waiting for them to run at you,

Wonder how he thought of that one!

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I look forward to the day he comes home...

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Some strangely negative posts in this thread. Edwards is a RL legend who has developed a rep as one of the best coaches in RU. It would be a massive publicity boost for our game should he ever come back, and I can't see why anyone would really be against it.

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In the Guardian article from which this thread has arisen, Edwards speaks only of the possibility of "re-learning" his (rugby league) "trade" as an assistant coach in the ARL... nowhere does it suggest that he had received any concrete offers at all.

After finishing as a player Edwards went downunder to study their coaching methods under Wayne Bennett

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After finishing as a player Edwards went downunder to study their coaching methods under Wayne Bennett

Exactly - and I'm sure that's all he was suggesting in the aforementioned article. He wasn't boasting about having a line of Australian rugby league clubs pleading with him to coach them.

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Edwards is far more modest than people give him credit for, he is also a sponge, soaking up sporting coaching knowledge.

Edwards would very quickly adapt back into rugby from union, If you think he has not continued to study in detail the game that made him, then, you very much under-estimate him.

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He is, from what I've read about his time with Wales RU, an excellent and inspirational man-manager, and has years of Rugby League experience to draw upon.

I'd like to see him back in the game for sure.

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I'd love to see him back in the game, and anybody else who has ever moved across to Union, but he would need to learn his trade and not be given the role of England Head Coach.

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