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Mark Aston accuses Featherstone of cheating

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Slowing the game down is hardly cheating and is a tactic every good team in the world knows how to implement.

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Slowing the game down is hardly cheating and is a tactic every good team in the world knows how to implement.

Agreed. Fev play this game fairly well, but do tend to get pulled up quite a lot when the overstep the mark of what is acceptable, much to the chargrin of the fans at times when we're on the wrong end of the penalty count, such as on Thursday v the Eagles.

My point is however that for a coach of a team to accuse the opposition of cheating in the press is in my view unnaceptable, and he should be facing a charge from the RFL for it.

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your interpretation that he is accusing Fev of being cheats is a bit overblown and reactionary considering his actual comment "there’s hands in, knees in and all the little things that are cheats and that’s frustrating but at least we won.”

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your interpretation that he is accusing Fev of being cheats is a bit overblown and reactionary considering his actual comment "there’s hands in, knees in and all the little things that are cheats and that’s frustrating but at least we won.”

How else would you define his comments, if they are not meant to be accusing Fev of cheating? :unsure:

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Mark Aston should be rapped on the knuckles for that

It's not cheating, it's professionalism, playing to the limits of the game.

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I agree we play to the limits of the game IE very quick line speed and we make sure we put the player on his back so it takes him longer to PTB. But cheats? We play the game as professionally as we can as our set up at Fev now is a SL set up and we try to play at the intensity of a SL game and we get pulled up for it quite a lot by the refs rightly or wrongly. But in no way do we cheat we just play the game to the limits and IMO only good teams can do that.

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And how many times did we lose the ball on Thursday is suspicious circumstances? Hypocrite of the highest order.

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Didnt hear anything about it pre-season, but after watching a couple of games from the NRL this season it seems one of the new referee directives is to have no hands on the ball once the tackle has been made, and it has had a noticeable effect on the speed of the PTB. A directive i would love to see the referee's in the UK adopt.

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As well as being out of line with his comments, which I interpret not only as a slight on Featherstone, but also as being an attack on the referee, he's also making a bit of a fool of himself, as his team were employing exactly the same tactics.

All good teams, like his and ours will push the ref to the limit they can get away with

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Didnt hear anything about it pre-season, but after watching a couple of games from the NRL this season it seems one of the new referee directives is to have no hands on the ball once the tackle has been made, and it has had a noticeable effect on the speed of the PTB. A directive i would love to see the referee's in the UK adopt.

I agree, there's too much messing about during contact and the game would benefit massively if this was policed more effectively.

Do you think the extra pair of eyes that the NRL have would be of benefit over here? (at SL level anyway)

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He even hinted at it during his half time talk which was broadcast for all to hear. Nothing more than mind games to get the refs on his side and at the same time disadvantage the Eagles' closest rivals. Harrison did it last year and it worked for Fax. Hopefully the referees are smart enough to see through it. In answe to Gaz's question, yes the RFL should clamp down on this. There's an official mechanism in place for coaches to have their say on the referees.

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Didnt hear anything about it pre-season, but after watching a couple of games from the NRL this season it seems one of the new referee directives is to have no hands on the ball once the tackle has been made, and it has had a noticeable effect on the speed of the PTB. A directive i would love to see the referee's in the UK adopt.

& for me 2 referees

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& for me 2 referees

Wouldn't disagree with the idea either but where would we get the refs from? Are there enough about?

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Only one coach is in line for an RFL disrepute charge for comments made last Thursday, it wont be Aston

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Only one coach is in line for an RFL disrepute charge for comments made last Thursday, it wont be Aston

A tongue in cheek statement about the most disciplined team in RL is very different from openly accusing someone of cheating and then moaning that the referee allowed it.

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Harrison did it last year and it worked for Fax.

There's an official mechanism in place for coaches to have their say on the referees.

And wasn't it Powell who stood in front of the TV cameras slagging him off for it?

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What about the tongue in cheek remarks in League Express about Gareth Hewer's ability to referee at the Championship level? As much as Powell is an Eagles legend, he doesnt half throw a strop when his team loses.

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What about the tongue in cheek remarks in League Express about Gareth Hewer's ability to referee at the Championship level? As much as Powell is an Eagles legend, he doesnt half throw a strop when his team loses.

It's more to do with the way we lose than actually losing. Your team did exactly the same as we did on Thursday night and the ref didn't pull you up for it once all night every PTB you were offside a mile and I mean every PTB. I'm sure DP is like me we don't mind losing if we lose fairly. I don't mind a ref pulling us for penalties as long as he's fair and does the same for both teams and I never complain about a ref but mr hewer was way off the game on Thursday night and DPs comments about him were correct.

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Hes just described Mitch Stringer for me in the article

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It's not cheating, is it ?

But - at some point - a ref will pick it up and then you give a lot of penalties away. (Not that I'd consider 8 a penalty count out of the ordinary. I'd say that was pretty much the norm.) Then you need a Plan B.

It's naive to think that referees don't go home, watch the dvd, look at their mistakes and make mental notes for future reference. ;)

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It's more to do with the way we lose than actually losing. Your team did exactly the same as we did on Thursday night and the ref didn't pull you up for it once all night every PTB you were offside a mile and I mean every PTB. I'm sure DP is like me we don't mind losing if we lose fairly. I don't mind a ref pulling us for penalties as long as he's fair and does the same for both teams and I never complain about a ref but mr hewer was way off the game on Thursday night and DPs comments about him were correct.

For someone who never complains about a ref, you've done a pretty good job of it there!!! :D

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For someone who never complains about a ref, you've done a pretty good job of it there!!! :D

That's for all the refs I don't complain about all in one

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What about the tongue in cheek remarks in League Express about Gareth Hewer's ability to referee at the Championship level? As much as Powell is an Eagles legend, he doesnt half throw a strop when his team loses.

Because Hewer was gash... he won you the game, these comments from Aston dont surprise me... reading from the Alex Ferguson play book of displacing the focus.

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