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Northern Rail Cup - Week 4

Which game are you most looking forward to?   20 members have voted

  1. 1. Which game are you most looking forward to?

    • Gateshead Thunder v Gloucestershire All Golds
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    • Hemel Stags v North Wales Crusaders
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    • Rochdale Hornets v London Skolars
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    • South Wales Scorpions v Oldham
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Discuss the games here.

SUNDAY 24th MARCH

Gateshead Thunder v Gloucestershire All Golds KO 15:00

Hemel Stags v North Wales Crusaders KO 15:00

Rochdale Hornets v London Skolars KO 15:00

South Wales Scorpions v Oldham KO 15:00

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It would be wonderful for Gateshead to get a win against the All Golds. That will give their fans something to cheer about and give the team a bit of confidence going into the regular season. There is plenty of time for the All Golds to establish themselves, and they must be expecting a good few losses this season as they adjust to the demands of the league, so I'm not too bothered about them losing a match but it would be very hard on the Gateshead crew if they lost to a newcomer. I do hope they win.

I bet Hemel give the Cru a good run for their money but again I'm hoping for a win by the Cru as that will send them into the final and get them motoring into the new season.

The other two games would be interesting to watch as I'm sure each team on their day could beat the opposition.

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voted for the Hemel game as that's the one I'm going to but being honest I think the most compelling tie of the round is Hornets v Skolars. A real litmus test for the Skolars after beating their southern competitors in recent weeks. Both of them will be in the playoff mix at the end of the year so an interesting one.

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Great to see the above teams playing rugby league.

Been to Hemel a few times , great little set up , also been up to Thunder ,some good youth players with a great attitude .

Refreshing not having the crowed shouting - forward pass/gerom on side every tackle , the locals seem to have a different outlook on the rugby they watch

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Great to see the above teams playing rugby league.

Been to Hemel a few times , great little set up , also been up to Thunder ,some good youth players with a great attitude .

Refreshing not having the crowed shouting - forward pass/gerom on side every tackle , the locals seem to have a different outlook on the rugby they watch

I was thinking about the different nature of the crowds the other day. I think people in the outposts have often fallen in love with the sport itself while many fans of the traditional clubs are first and foremost blinkered followers of that one particular outfit. There isnt that same kneejerk reaction to decry everything as being rubbish and not as good as back in the good old days. The "gerrem onside ref" one does my head in.Once fine, twice no problem but on and on and on and on - I cant remember which Cumbrian club it was last season - one of the W's - at the Skolars but there was a bloke who hollered that at least 50 times. I felt like going over and stuffing his programme in his mouth

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Given that the mini-comp/kockout places are decided this Sunday, can anyone find updated table online? Don't bother trying BBC or sportinglife.......

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Given that the mini-comp/kockout places are decided this Sunday, can anyone find updated table online? Don't bother trying BBC or sportinglife.......

Why not? You will find that the BBC has the information you want, just here: http://www.rugbyleag...rthern_rail_cup

I think the BBC's website is very good.

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Why not? You will find that the BBC has the information you want

I think the BBC's website is very good.

Not it doesn't. It's a week out of date..... :rolleyes:

Half a table with no points differences on, but better than nothing I suppose.

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Not it doesn't. It's a week out of date..... :rolleyes:

Half a table with no points differences on, but better than nothing I suppose.

I don't know what you're looking at but I'm looking at two full tables which show three games each played. What is out of date about that? And where is this half a table?

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I don't know what you're looking at but I'm looking at two full tables which show three games each played. What is out of date about that? And where is this half a table?

Perhaps you are confused.

Your link is not to the BBC.

This is the BBC link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/championship-cup/table

and it's out of date.

Your link is up to date, but with partial tables, and is from the Championships own website, not the BBC.

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What's the format for the Northern Rail Cup going forward from these two pools please?

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Perhaps you are confused.

Your link is not to the BBC.

But I got to it via the BBC website. Click on 'Championship' on the right hand side of the RL homepage and you will find it yourself under the Northern Rail tab.

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But I got to it via the BBC website. Click on 'Championship' on the right hand side of the RL homepage and you will find it yourself under the Northern Rail tab.

Yes, but as you can see, it's not the BBC website. Which is out of date.

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What's the format for the Northern Rail Cup going forward from these two pools please?

Both Group winners join the 14 Champs clubs in a straight knockout last 16. Hence the importance of the tables.....

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Yes, but as you can see, it's not the BBC website. Which is out of date.

I have no idea which bit of the BBC website you are talking about because all I do is clink on the Championship link on the right hand side of the RL homepage which takes me to the Championships website and on the right hand tab is Northern Rail Cup. I click on that and everything is there, up to date. It is perfectly sufficient to have that link through from the website. It's better, in fact, than having the same thing repeated by the BBC. Why bother with that when the BBC just facilitates me getting right to the facts? It's all linked to the BBC website, it can be found on the BBC website and I really don't know why you are making such a silly fuss about it.

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Both Group winners join the 14 Champs clubs in a straight knockout last 16. Hence the importance of the tables.....

They also play for the Northern Rail Bowl trophy as part of a double header with the Northern Rail Cup.

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I have no idea which bit of the BBC website you are talking about because all I do is clink on the Championship link on the right hand side of the RL homepage which takes me to the Championships website and on the right hand tab is Northern Rail Cup. I click on that and everything is there, up to date. It is perfectly sufficient to have that link through from the website. It's better, in fact, than having the same thing repeated by the BBC. Why bother with that when the BBC just facilitates me getting right to the facts? It's all linked to the BBC website, it can be found on the BBC website and I really don't know why you are making such a silly fuss about it.

Perhaps it's the concept of the 'external link' you are struggling with.

Here is the BBC website, out of date:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nship-cup/table

What you posted was a link to a website that has nothing to do with the BBC, but happens to appear as an external link there. No fuss, it's not silly, it's not the BBC website, which is out of date. HTH.

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Perhaps it's the concept of the 'external link' you are struggling with.

Oh give it a rest.

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Oh give it a rest.

:wacko: Physician heal thyself.

All I said was the BBC website is wrong. You insist it isn't.

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voted for the Hemel game as that's the one I'm going to but being honest I think the most compelling tie of the round is Hornets v Skolars. A real litmus test for the Skolars after beating their southern competitors in recent weeks. Both of them will be in the playoff mix at the end of the year so an interesting one.

Yeah I would go for Rochdale-Skolars. To me the London outfit seem to have grown some horns these last couple of seasons. A proper Championship club emerging I hope. Hornets away will be a test of that.

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Both Group winners join the 14 Champs clubs in a straight knockout last 16. Hence the importance of the tables.....

London Skolars and North Wales each have a huge points difference advantage over South Wales and Oldham respectively. It would require extraordinary results for either of the top teams to be overtaken.

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London Skolars and North Wales each have a huge points difference advantage over South Wales and Oldham respectively. It would require extraordinary results for either of the top teams to be overtaken.

Ta. I didn't know that because....well...... :D

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THE OFFICIAL RFL MATCH PREVIEWS

Northern Rail Cup

Gateshead Thunder v Gloucestershire All Golds (3.00pm)

Jacob Blades and Chris Parker will both be assessed on Friday after the Gateshead Thunder pair suffered ankle injuries at Oldham.

However, Joe Brown could return after coming through Tuesday’s training session unscathed.

Thunder coach Kevin Neighbour is still aiming for his first win of the season, but believes last week’s 34-16 loss against Oldham was a positive step forward.

Neighbour said: “It was a game I believed we could have won, but we performed significantly better in the second half. We just weren’t able to cope with the conditions in the first half.”

He added: “We improved from the game before, and we hope to do the same again this week.

“I watched the All Golds when the played Northumbria University, I’ve seen the highlights from their game against Hemel, and I’m sure they’ll have improved even further.

“They’ll be well organised and they’ve quite a few decent players in their squad.”

Gloucestershire All Golds are searching for their first win in the semi-professional ranks, but coach Brad Hepi was impressed by his side in last week’s 20-0 loss at London Skolars.

Hemel Stags v North Wales Crusaders (3.00pm)

Chad Sharpe (knee) is unavailable for Hemel Stags while Barry-John Swindells (broken foot) faces several weeks on the sidelines.

The Stags lost 22-20 against South Wales Scorpions last week. Coach Troy Perkins said: “We were a little bit unlucky and we shouldn’t have lost.

“If anyone had said during pre-season that we’d be right in the game with London Skolars and be we’d be ahead against South Wales and just get pipped, I’d have taken that. We’re heading in the right direction.”

North Wales Crusaders coach Clive Griffiths is aiming to complete a 100 per cent record in the Northern Rail Cup group stages, having already secured three wins this year.

However, the experienced Welshman insists his side will not be underestimating Hemel’s strength.

Griffiths said: “We’re full of respect for them. There’ll be no complacency and no taking it lightly from us. We’re not taking anything for granted.”

Victory for the Crusaders would give them a berth in the inaugural Northern Rail Bowl final.

“If we do get to the final, it’ll be one of my best ever moments in rugby league, because 16 months ago there was no North Wales Crusaders and yet here we are on the brink of a major final.”

Rochdale Hornets v London Skolars (3.00pm)

Wayne English (eye) is a major doubt for Rochdale Hornets, who will also check on other members of their squad before coach Ian Talbot determines his team to face London Skolars.

Hornets have only one win from their three Northern Rail Cup fixtures this year after last week’s 30-16 defeat against North Wales Crusaders.

Talbot said: “Our completion rate was a big factor, but we also didn’t get our fair share of the calls.”

Now Talbot is focused on London, who have a 100 per cent record this season having won against Hemel, Gloucestershire All Golds and South Wales Scorpions.

Talbot said: “There’s been some massive improvements in the quality of rugby played by the London sides over recent years, and they’ll be a big test for us.

“It’s an opportunity for me to play one or two players who haven’t played yet, but I also need to find the happy balance because we want to go into the league with a win behind us.”

Jordan Case could come back into contention for Rochdale, while Skolars coach Joe Mbu is preparing his side for a fierce test.

Mbu said: “We’ll need to raise our game. Hopefully we’ll go there and do ourselves justice, because for the last two years our trips to Rochdale have not been easy.”

South Wales Scorpions v Oldham (3.00pm)

South Wales Scorpions coach Dave Clark is set to name an unchanged side for Sunday’s Northern Rail Cup visit of Oldham.

Clark said: “We’re starting to build some momentum and I was quite happy with our defence last week. We’re really working hard on that aspect of the game.”

He added: “This week we’re playing against a side that will be in the top three or four at the end of the season. Physically it’ll be a challenge, but we’re starting to adapt to that and this will give us a bit of a benchmark.”

Oldham coach Scott Naylor may tinker with his squad in a bid to keep players fresh, but has no new injury concerns ahead of a long trip south.

Naylor said: “The furthest we’ve been this year is Wrexham, and we didn’t come out of that game too well, but it wasn’t the travel that did us on the day.

“The lads have to get used to it because it’s a fact of this season more than ever that clubs have got to travel big distances.

“Hopefully when you get there the lads are switched on. At the end of the day we’re going there to play a game of rugby and the lads are professional enough to know it’s all about the game.”

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Hannah Molloy

Media Assistant

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I will be at Hemel - weather permitting. Just hope that if it is called off, it is called off early, because I will have to leave home at 8.45am. I hope Crusaders win the game but Hemel full back Mike Forgham scores one of his spectacular length of the field tries!

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