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Dr Koukash on FiveLive

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All you haters need to tune into Radio 5 right now. The bloke is tearing it up!

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In English, he's chatting positively into a mic that's too far away to a chap who hasn't a clue.

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I thought Koukash was great. Loved the way he sneaked in the promo for the ladies night! :D

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What occurred?

Dr Koukash, Noble and Morley had a good chat about all things RL. Worth a listen on iplayer, didn't start until 9.10pm though so don't fret if it's not league right away.

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Did he talk sense? What was his overall thoughts and views on the game?

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Did he talk sense? What was his overall thoughts and views on the game?

He talked lots of sense. What stood out for me was his enthusiasm for the sport itself and his enjoyment of its community nature. But he also said that rugby league has consistently undersold and undermarketed itself, which is so obvious really but it is still good to hear somebody actually say it! Pity the RFL hasn't quite clicked on to that yet. Not in any serious way anyway.

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In the bit that I heard about the salary cap, he basically said he wants an exemption for his club so that he doesn't have to wait 6 years to reap the harvest of his investment. So, a great advert for the salary cap then.

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In the bit that I heard about the salary cap, he basically said he wants an exemption for his club so that he doesn't have to wait 6 years to reap the harvest of his investment. So, a great advert for the salary cap then.

I thought he had a point. We want a competitive league. For Salford to be competitive they basically have to buy almost an entire new squad as the last one was poached of its best players/players retired, and recruitment was badly managed anyway. It would be in the best interests of the whole league and the game nationally to allow Salford the freedom to obtain a competitive squad. It need only be a one off exemption.

As for the salary cap point generally, he also said something valid there too: how can we compete with the NRL when our salary cap is basically half of theirs? I think he was asking what are our priorities. And his statement about the struggling clubs was spot on: they will struggle no matter what level the salary cap is set at.

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People can dream but SL is a weak competition full of weak clubs in the main that struggle to survive running a main team and an academy. The odd club like Leeds may do things right but sadly they are held back by others. Koukash needs to wake up and see the reality that SL is. It will never compete with the NRL as SL is a small comp propped up by Sky in the main who throw a few million at it. The comp gets next to no media coverage and most of the clubs will never average over 10,000 fans per season. The NRL is a multi Billion Dollar industry and gets wall to wall coverage in the Nations media. Many of the clubs average over 15,000 per season and big names like Vodafone, Holden Cars, Kaspersky want to be involved. SL and the people in it need to accept this and concentrate on doing whats right for the good of the game and not live in a fantasy world. Its good Koukash has got involved with Salford but he needs to sort the many problems off field out first instead of looking to buy success. I wish him and Salford well but for me the club needs to build off field as much as on field. All I hear is how Koukash wants instant success on the field and I am yet to be convinced he is prepared to be patient and build properly on and off the field

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People can dream but SL is a weak competition full of weak clubs in the main that struggle to survive running a main team and an academy. The odd club like Leeds may do things right but sadly they are held back by others. Koukash needs to wake up and see the reality that SL is. It will never compete with the NRL as SL is a small comp propped up by Sky in the main who throw a few million at it. The comp gets next to no media coverage and most of the clubs will never average over 10,000 fans per season. The NRL is a multi Billion Dollar industry and gets wall to wall coverage in the Nations media. Many of the clubs average over 15,000 per season and big names like Vodafone, Holden Cars, Kaspersky want to be involved. SL and the people in it need to accept this and concentrate on doing whats right for the good of the game and not live in a fantasy world. Its good Koukash has got involved with Salford but he needs to sort the many problems off field out first instead of looking to buy success. I wish him and Salford well but for me the club needs to build off field as much as on field. All I hear is how Koukash wants instant success on the field and I am yet to be convinced he is prepared to be patient and build properly on and off the field

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He talked lots of sense. What stood out for me was his enthusiasm for the sport itself and his enjoyment of its community nature. But he also said that rugby league has consistently undersold and undermarketed itself, which is so obvious really but it is still good to hear somebody actually say it! Pity the RFL hasn't quite clicked on to that yet. Not in any serious way anyway.

I think it's great to have the good Dr involved in rugby league.What a breath of fresh air ,and he is ruffling a few feathers along the way.Most people think the game is under marketed and his bit of hype

is getting publicity for the game.

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People can dream but SL is a weak competition full of weak clubs in the main that struggle to survive running a main team and an academy. The odd club like Leeds may do things right but sadly they are held back by others. Koukash needs to wake up and see the reality that SL is. It will never compete with the NRL as SL is a small comp propped up by Sky in the main who throw a few million at it. The comp gets next to no media coverage and most of the clubs will never average over 10,000 fans per season. The NRL is a multi Billion Dollar industry and gets wall to wall coverage in the Nations media. Many of the clubs average over 15,000 per season and big names like Vodafone, Holden Cars, Kaspersky want to be involved. SL and the people in it need to accept this and concentrate on doing whats right for the good of the game and not live in a fantasy world. Its good Koukash has got involved with Salford but he needs to sort the many problems off field out first instead of looking to buy success. I wish him and Salford well but for me the club needs to build off field as much as on field. All I hear is how Koukash wants instant success on the field and I am yet to be convinced he is prepared to be patient and build properly on and off the field

Very good post that.....even though I enjoy him shaking things up.

It's a bit like a fight in the middle of a game your watching, you tut tut but really your loving it!

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People can dream but SL is a weak competition full of weak clubs in the main that struggle to survive running a main team and an academy. The odd club like Leeds may do things right but sadly they are held back by others. Koukash needs to wake up and see the reality that SL is. It will never compete with the NRL as SL is a small comp propped up by Sky in the main who throw a few million at it. The comp gets next to no media coverage and most of the clubs will never average over 10,000 fans per season. The NRL is a multi Billion Dollar industry and gets wall to wall coverage in the Nations media. Many of the clubs average over 15,000 per season and big names like Vodafone, Holden Cars, Kaspersky want to be involved. SL and the people in it need to accept this and concentrate on doing whats right for the good of the game and not live in a fantasy world. Its good Koukash has got involved with Salford but he needs to sort the many problems off field out first instead of looking to buy success. I wish him and Salford well but for me the club needs to build off field as much as on field. All I hear is how Koukash wants instant success on the field and I am yet to be convinced he is prepared to be patient and build properly on and off the field

As opposed to being propped up by performance enhancing drugs!

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his statement about the struggling clubs was spot on: they will struggle no matter what level the salary cap is set at.

So he doesn't need an exemption then. He just needs to invest smartly.

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The Doc has only just begun. Wait until he's warmed up. Things are certainly going to get interesting for sure.

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Wait till the horse racing flat season starts you won't hear or see him for the 6 months as he will be all around the world with his horses. This is just an hobby to pass the time for 6 months while his horses are not running.

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So that's the end of franchising and salary caps, well said Doc. Let the cream rise and the sheeite drown. The governing body is holding back the sport with its ludicrous policies/R&R's, let the BIG clubs evolve and the smaller ones dream. A few weeks ago Salford were a minnow in RL terms, next year without the barriers they could be a real challenger - that's SPORT - and imagine the fun fans will have along the way - the only caveat I would install would be any investment must never be via Directors loans or PG's on debt.

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As opposed to being propped up by performance enhancing drugs!

to be fair, though, they only enhance the Aussies' physical performance, not their intellectual performance:

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant

Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar

Who could think you under the table

David Hume could out-consume

Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine

Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya'

'Bout the raising of the wrist

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All I hear is how Koukash wants instant success on the field and I am yet to be convinced he is prepared to be patient and build properly on and off the field

He has said previously that he wants to build things off the field too. He wants Salford to be self-sufficient. That's the same aim as, say, McManus at Saints.

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So he doesn't need an exemption then. He just needs to invest smartly.

He recognised the need to invest smartly, which is of course what the previous administration at Salford did not do. But I think he is right about the exemption. We need competitive sides now and if Koukash has the ability and is willing to spend the cash to get Salford competitive quickly then I don't see what the problem is. Other exceptions have been made to the rules: the RFL buying out the lease at Odsal to keep the Bulls afloat, for example, was a case of the governing body doing something for one club that it didn't do for others who were struggling. So giving an exemption on the salary cap to Salford for say one year would not be anything outrageous.

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So if we give Salford a salary cap exemption, who's turn is it after that... then who's turn is it after that... and so on... ?

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He recognised the need to invest smartly, which is of course what the previous administration at Salford did not do. But I think he is right about the exemption. We need competitive sides now and if Koukash has the ability and is willing to spend the cash to get Salford competitive quickly then I don't see what the problem is. Other exceptions have been made to the rules: the RFL buying out the lease at Odsal to keep the Bulls afloat, for example, was a case of the governing body doing something for one club that it didn't do for others who were struggling. So giving an exemption on the salary cap to Salford for say one year would not be anything outrageous.

And then halved our sky money for two years.

This salary cap exemption wouldn't work, because if it's temporary it'll have to come down again, so those expensive players who came would leave or everyone takes a pay cut, which defeats the object.

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So if we give Salford a salary cap exemption, who's turn is it after that... then who's turn is it after that... and so on... ?

Basically it's an open door to the Ken Bates effect where you 'sell' a club from one set of owners to another in return for them gaining an exemption. The owners may or may not be the same people as the trust terminates in the BVI and no one can check.

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