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Bearman

More Australian innovations

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I'm just watching the Eels v Tigers game from earlier today.

The Australians have come up with a couple of innovations.

1/ the tackler never touches the ball in the attackers hands and keeps his hands well away from the ball when rising.

2/ more controversially the attacking player when he has been tackled puts the ball on the floor and kicks it back with his foot!

They do this every time.

I wonder if it will catch on over here? Or is this just another example of different rules for different hemispheres?

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Bearman the rule is when a player is tackled is he puts the ball down and play it back with his foot. But since MR CUMMINGS got in charge of our ref,s they have been told that just as long as the player makes an attempt that will do.That is why our play the ball as become a farce ????

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Bearman the rule is when a player is tackled is he puts the ball down and play it back with his foot. But since MR CUMMINGS got in charge of our ref,s they have been told that just as long as the player makes an attempt that will do.That is why our play the ball as become a farce ????

I've not seen an NRL game yet but this seems more sensible.

A player should make a proper attempt to play the ball, and the tackler should get his hands away from the ball once the tackle has been completed.

This is one I'm in favour of the Aussies having different rules to us. It equalises out in that the attacker gets to PTB quicker because the defender isn't trying to make him commit a knock-on and then the attacker takes slightly longer to execute the PTB by making sure his foot touches it.

And it also gives Stevo less reason to go on about the refs and PTB's which can only be good.

Didn't Jamie Peacock get penalised last week for not playing the ball correctly.

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Bearman the rule is when a player is tackled is he puts the ball down and play it back with his foot. But since MR CUMMINGS got in charge of our ref,s they have been told that just as long as the player makes an attempt that will do.That is why our play the ball as become a farce ????

Get your dictionary out and look up the word "Irony"

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I've not seen an NRL game yet but this seems more sensible.

A player should make a proper attempt to play the ball, and the tackler should get his hands away from the ball once the tackle has been completed.

This is one I'm in favour of the Aussies having different rules to us. It equalises out in that the attacker gets to PTB quicker because the defender isn't trying to make him commit a knock-on and then the attacker takes slightly longer to execute the PTB by making sure his foot touches it.

And it also gives Stevo less reason to go on about the refs and PTB's which can only be good.

Didn't Jamie Peacock get penalised last week for not playing the ball correctly.

Yes Peacock was pulled up for it and he looked shocked that a referee should have the temerity to apply a law of the game to him.

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a referee pinged one of our U14's for not touching the ball with his foot in a game recently!

I mentioned this on another thread recent;y, about the players not having hands on the ball, and in the couple of games ive seen so far, it is working really well.

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In the Leeds game, the following 3 play of the balls by Wigan after the penalty were the same as Peacock's that he was penalised for. That's not a moan by the way, I just personally see it as a pointless rule. It doesn't affect play in any way whatsoever. As long as the ball goes through the legs in a controlled motion then I don't see a problem. The attacking team doesn't gain any advantage.

Hands in at the ruck is the one that annoys me though. It was bad in Australia too until they got the pocket ref too, so they had problems. Difference is, they sorted it. Our ruck is the same now as it was 10 years ago.

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Ablett always has his hands not only all over the ball but in and around players faces in every tackle.

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In the Leeds game, the following 3 play of the balls by Wigan after the penalty were the same as Peacock's that he was penalised for.

No they weren't. I remember watching for it as well, and Peacock's was just a shocker. He just stepped over the ball. There was no attempt to play it at all. The Wigan PTBs were not touched by the foot but an attempt was made to play it.

Peacock was just lazy and rightly pulled up for it.

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In the Leeds game, the following 3 play of the balls by Wigan after the penalty were the same as Peacock's that he was penalised for. That's not a moan by the way, I just personally see it as a pointless rule. It doesn't affect play in any way whatsoever. As long as the ball goes through the legs in a controlled motion then I don't see a problem.

The rule is there and should be applied. Tired players can make mistakes and just occasionally they accidentally kick the ball forwards. Waving a foot in the general direction of the ball negates this, and so does give an advantage.

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The rule is there and should be applied. Tired players can make mistakes and just occasionally they accidentally kick the ball forwards. Waving a foot in the general direction of the ball negates this, and so does give an advantage.

An interesting point. When a player accidentally nudges the ball forward with his foot but then plays it backwards to the DH exactly which rule is being broken?

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The rule is there and should be applied.

It should be applied or removed from the rule book.

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An interesting point. When a player accidentally nudges the ball forward with his foot but then plays it backwards to the DH exactly which rule is being broken?

The rule where your not allowed to play the ball forward anymore.

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It should be applied or removed from the rule book.

Spot on

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It should be applied or removed from the rule book.

Like the feed at the scrum.

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In the Leeds game, the following 3 play of the balls by Wigan after the penalty were the same as Peacock's that he was penalised for. That's not a moan by the way, I just personally see it as a pointless rule. It doesn't affect play in any way whatsoever. As long as the ball goes through the legs in a controlled motion then I don't see a problem. The attacking team doesn't gain any advantage.

Same here, I don't get why it matters so much. I feel the same way about the recent over emphasis in the NRL on binding properly in scrums. I don't know why people care, if a guy has his arms by his side or two guys are niggling each other a little bit just let them get on with it, the effect on the game is minimal to non existant. It's too pedant for me

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One part of the play the ball that needs cracking down on is when players get up and step to the side. It should be a straighg up sin binning offence.

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No they weren't. I remember watching for it as well, and Peacock's was just a shocker. He just stepped over the ball. There was no attempt to play it at all. The Wigan PTBs were not touched by the foot but an attempt was made to play it.

Peacock was just lazy and rightly pulled up for it.

Hes been doing it for years

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We do not have rule book to have rules removed from.

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Same here, I don't get why it matters so much. I feel the same way about the recent over emphasis in the NRL on binding properly in scrums. I don't know why people care, if a guy has his arms by his side or two guys are niggling each other a little bit just let them get on with it, the effect on the game is minimal to non existant. It's too pedant for me

pedantic

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If a player has to think thta he has to concentrate and set himself up to play th eball properly it will take longer. It would also ensure that no momentum applied to the ball by the hand to propel it backwards should be reduced or eliminated.

It may only be less than a second but it will be longer. Either we have the rule/law and apply it or we don't.

I'd also penalise those who step forward or sideways off the point of tackle to hopefully catch the defender out for being not square. Let the ref police this an not the player.

Then the ref can spend his time looking for hands on the ball and who is using spoiling tactics by the defenders, so that both sides are cleaner.

It will end pointless repeat shots of whether defenders hands/arms sqeezed the ball out, instead of getting on with the game.

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I assume the hands on the ball by a tackler rule only relates to tackles involving two or more players?

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Once the ref has called held, then regardless of the number of tacklers, it should be hands off the ball.

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