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Was 4-tackle rugby league any good?

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But isnt frantic interesting? Were the games interesting? Perhaps after a longer trial tge players would have accustomed.

Given that four tackles was only trialled for a short period with a 5m rule and competitive acrums, it might work better in todays game with 10m.

I think 6 tackles may be one or two tackles too many - the first two tackles generally see little or no passing and is just a forward trying to make yards.

Its defo worth trying

Frantic is interesting

But you get it in other aspects of the game

A question of balance I guess

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You're saying that limited tackles came in as a mid-season rule change? Seriously ?!

Wigan and Oldham where given the choice in the Lancashire Cup Final in 1966 whether to play under the unlimited or 4 tackle rule as the previous rounds had been played under unlimited tackles. If memory serves they elected to use the unlimited tackles rule. The rule was brought in at the end of October 66, two months into the season.

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Are there any games online during period of the 4tackle rule?

you might see some footage of the 1967 cup final, the first cup final to be played under that rule, but the footage is likely to be higlights so not necessarily representative.

by the eway how's it going with the referendum issue? You've been asked some questions about it on the other thread

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Are there any games online during period of the 4tackle rule?

Not sure, but you can buy most of the Challenge cup finals on DVD from about 1962 onwards.

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you might see some footage of the 1967 cup final, the first cup final to be played under that rule, but the footage is likely to be higlights so not necessarily representative.

Fev have a DVD of that final on sale in their online shop for a tenner.

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Fev have a DVD of that final on sale in their online shop for a tenner.

correct. I've got one.

but I wasn't sure that Lobby wouild want to takthings that far. It has to be said it wasn't a classic final.

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I remember the four tackle period though it was very short lived. From no-limit to four tackles just didn't work though and was too big a jump from what we had had previously.

No limit was the big difference though, with props and hookers with very specific tasks to perform in the scrum and a good prop/hooker combo could be the decisive element in a match - skills which were then lost to the game. Have to say that much as I enjoy today's game I enjoyed the very different game back then too.

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You're saying that limited tackles came in as a mid-season rule change? Seriously ?!

Why is that surprising ?

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correct. I've got one.

but I wasn't sure that Lobby wouild want to takthings that far. It has to be said it wasn't a classic final.

Interesting - might check out youtube...

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I've got the 1970 Championship Final, basically on the fourth tackle, who ever had the ball kicked it. There was no game plan as today. And the defence was only 5 yards back, so it was a mad cramble. Under the 10 metre rule 4 tackles would be less hectic than 5 yards, 40-20's would be attempted more, kicking would end up as the main weapon of the game.

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Why is that surprising ?

Well I know I shouldn't be surprised really. I knew about the switch from 5 to 10 metres. A friend who refereed at the time once told me the message only reached half the officials, so the games in the first week were a mix of 5 and 10 metre rule. I'd just started following the game in the centenary season and remember the kick-off switching to the scoring team mid-season.

Does anyone know if the introduction of the play-the-ball and reduction to 13 players was done in the close season, or was that a week before Christmas 1907?

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What I do recall vividly was the introduction of the substitute rule. I had played the previous season at U17 for Shaw Cross Rangers. During the closed season however, I had been training with Morley RU and planned to turn out with them that year. A friend of mine who was still going to play for Shaw Cross came around to our house on the Friday before their first fixture to say would I turn out for them as they were one short. I agreed and turned up at the club house the following afternoon. The coach said that as I hadn't been training with them I would be sub. The rules now said he had to have a sub. but he didn't believe in subs. so I wouldn't get a game. I stood on the touchline all the game changed - and no I didn't get a game. I turned out for Morley B at Huddersfield YMCA the following Saturday and never played RL again. (not that I was a great loss to the sport mind! :( )

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When I played U17 unlimited tackle RL in the sixties we had a player called Peter Coates ( I believe he subsequently signed for Dewsbury) who was a pastmaster at winning the ball at the PTB - I'd say 2/3 times a game he'd win the ball back. Plus of course you had to pass the ball from AHB, if you were caught in possession you conceded a scrum to the oppostion, so not many dashes by the dummy half. Even in those days of contested scrums, the majority went with the feed no matter who had the head.

The point about the dummy half conceding a scrum if he was caught in possession was something I'd completely forgotten. I assume you're pretty certain about it. It's quite an interesting concept that could be adapted today in some way to discourage too many dummy-half scoots, and to encourage more passing of the ball from the ruck.

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The point about the dummy half conceding a scrum if he was caught in possession was something I'd completely forgotten. I assume you're pretty certain about it. It's quite an interesting concept that could be adapted today in some way to discourage too many dummy-half scoots, and to encourage more passing of the ball from the ruck.

I'm certain about it as I posted the same thing earlier!

Hookers were real heroes in those days, mine was Barry Sims especially as he was dating my mates cousin and I got to talk to him

If you want to see how the scrum rule for dummy halves works watch the kids games at half time. Same rule except the opposition can't run until he has passed it!

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The point about the dummy half conceding a scrum if he was caught in possession was something I'd completely forgotten. I assume you're pretty certain about it. It's quite an interesting concept that could be adapted today in some way to discourage too many dummy-half scoots, and to encourage more passing of the ball from the ruck.

I'm certain. I was that dummy half - Ossett 0 Thornhill 43 Crown Flatt 1962 - I didn't know the rule myself. Ten yards from the line, I as at dummy half and I ran - I thought what have I to lose - either I score or it's a PTB, I got quite a long way to the line - they weren't expecting such a stupid move - I was tackled, we lost the subsequent scrum and field position - my teamates weren't best pleased :wacko:

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The point about the dummy half conceding a scrum if he was caught in possession was something I'd completely forgotten. I assume you're pretty certain about it. It's quite an interesting concept that could be adapted today in some way to discourage too many dummy-half scoots, and to encourage more passing of the ball from the ruck.

I've suggested that dummy scoots should be outlawed on here in the past, so it is interesting to hear this. Personally I hate the cheap yards that this gains. Also it is a bit more difficult to defend against especially near the line. I think it contributes to larger score margins especially in combo with the 10m rule.

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I've suggested that dummy scoots should be outlawed on here in the past, so it is interesting to hear this. Personally I hate the cheap yards that this gains. Also it is a bit more difficult to defend against especially near the line. I think it contributes to larger score margins especially in combo with the 10m rule.

I'm not sure just when the rule was introduced, but I believe it was a response to Workington basically sticking the ball up their jumpers for the last twenty minutes of the CC Final in 1952. I believe it was Gus Risman's idea. I suppose it's similar to the response to Murphy's tactics in the 1966 final.

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